Plus in the interest of fairness, JP McManus should build a stadium in every county. Shane Curran needs to be appeased, all in the interest of fairness, of course. Who could honestly disagree?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12310 - 12/10/2009 14:58:52    451860

Bref

I meant different sugar-daddys for cavan

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 12/10/2009 15:09:19    451868

Rua - doesnt matter who the sugar daddys are, we're still useless, but yeah all your points are valid.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12310 - 12/10/2009 15:37:13    451898

Do the british not pay for half on the hospitals down here in grants and club tyrone payed for tyrone gaa look up your facts in future .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 12/10/2009 15:40:28    451902

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Do you agree with these grants Dell or is it just the Southern ones that shouldnt have happened in the first place!!!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 12/10/2009 15:48:01    451916

jimbodub

If north and south get grants there entitled to them as both sides of the border give each other grants and i will not grudge any gaa county of it or the hospitals , roads , colleges etc fair play to them.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 12/10/2009 15:54:22    451924

I got to say that it's a classic response to any situation that when you fail to achieve whatever you have set out to do you attack someone else to deflact attention from yourself. We have all been guilty of it from time to time but I've got to add that I agree with "Paddyogall" even though I d'ont think he knew what he was pushing, "let's level the playing field"!!!! There is a "National" effort at this very moment to level the palying field, an effort that need the entire Island of Ireland to get behind, National Unity, A United Ireland. Fellow Gaels we are running out of excuse's for this not to happen!!!! It's time all of us should do the right thing.

keeny (Antrim) - Posts: 6 - 12/10/2009 16:20:22    451960

Dont think it makes a difference. Our club set up is a lot better than in Armagh or Tyrone. We almost all have our own stands, club houses and new pitches. It's organisation, not just hand outs.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 12/10/2009 16:29:57    451976

12/10/2009 16:29:57 Brolly County: Monaghan Posts: 631 451976 Dont think it makes a difference. Our club set up is a lot better than in Armagh or Tyrone. We almost all have our own stands, club houses and new pitches. It's organisation, not just hand outs. ___________________ Agreed - Not many clubs can sell 800 dinner dance tickets @ E100 a pop as was the case last Saturday night.

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 12/10/2009 16:47:31    452000

Sweet Jasus - I have read it all now. 1/ GAA supporters and players in the 6 counties have to pay tax to the British exchequer - therefore the money we pay in tax in effect is coming back to us in grants for our sports facilities 2/ Lottery funding come from the sale of lottery tickets to the United Kingdom lotto - thousands of GAA members in the occupied 6 counties play the lotto so therefore in effect some of that money is coming back to GAA people 3/ Down, Derry and Donegal won All-Ireland at the start of the 1990's before the so-called 'peace process' had even begun and there was no funding avaliable to GAA clubs as such. The points being raised by some in the Free state simply go to show your pettiness. Perhaps you would rather teams from the 6 counties didnt take party in Gaelic games...or perhaps take part and not win letting 'real Irish' counties claim the titles. Some have claimed that Tyrone and Armagh are partitionist by accepting funds from the British exchequer...maybe if the Free state had of stood by the occupied 6 counties at the time of the treaty we would have no call to be having this conversation. The reason Tyrone and Armagh are now successful is because they have a drive and determination to succeed along with talented players, great managment and a business-like finacial strategy to improve quality within each of the counties. Instead of a goalie from Roscommon criticising these team it might do him better to follow their example and try and get his county out of a rut instead of crying like a wee girl.

RuaHughONeill (Tyrone) - Posts: 110 - 12/10/2009 16:53:59    452011

the ulster 6 pay no taxs in the republic so should be entitled to no grants in the south

david09 (Kildare) - Posts: 115 - 12/10/2009 18:12:26    452120

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The reason Tyrone and Armagh are now successful is because they have a drive and determination to succeed along with talented players, great managment and a business-like finacial strategy to improve quality within each of the counties. Instead of a goalie from Roscommon criticising these team it might do him better to follow their example and try and get his county out of a rut instead of crying like a wee girl.

Well said Hugh, too much begrudgery on this board. Far too much from the weshtt I should add!

caughtredhanded (Tyrone) - Posts: 602 - 12/10/2009 18:33:37    452139

That's a very fair and completely true point. I meant no disrespect...I personally feel that it has little to do with paying tax though Omagh. We all pay tax down here as well but our players do not receive ISS Grant money just for that reason. Our players receive Grants because the GPA fought tooth and nail for it and even now the powers that be are trying to rip the scheme to shreds.


I believe that the players receive grant money from the British government because it was be a PR disaster if they were not allocated a certain portion of the overall budget... I mean imagine the turmoil and fuss that Sinn Fein would kick up... It's nothing to do with paying tax. It's to do with building a new Northern Ireland where everyone is treated equally. The British sports council sees the Northern GAA players as British Athletes, Catholic or not and awards them as such nothing to do with tax.

Jimbo, not for a minute did I think that you were being disrespectful, and I understand where you are coming from. It would appear that your ire at the Irish Govt is being directed on here and maybe confusing that issue with this one. I don't think, but cannot be sure that GAA players receive individual grants from the British Govt. I think what Mr Curran was getting at was the sport council grants and lottery funding. I think tax is the fundamental element without which you would have no basis for the argument of receiving grants. I do not have an opinion either way really about the GPA unlike yourself, but having spoken to a couple of the Tyrone lads I am friendly with, they would say that they are very well treated in terms of gear, accommodation, facilities, food, mileage etc and this is paid for mostly by the efforts of Club Tyrone. However, I do agree that there are a number of counties were lads put in the same effort and don't get as well looked after. I will maybe continue on your other thread in relation to this topic

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 12/10/2009 19:19:49    452196

where is this place called the free state i have looked at the atlas and can not find it and who or what are free staters is this a racist remark or is it how you would greet a fellow human

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 12/10/2009 19:33:19    452222

Hipster, as you well know, the free state was the name of the 26 counties until 1937 when a constitution was drafted for the whole of Ireland to be referred to as Eire as a sovereign state and that the laws of the land, pending reunification with the North of Ireland would be enacted within the territories of the old free state. As we all know, the government of the republic abandoned this constitution with the removal of articles 2 & 3. In the eyes of nationalists and republicans the 26 counties are the free part of the state of Ireland. I hope this answers your query

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 12/10/2009 23:17:32    452530

shouldnt have spent all your money on property then!

cecil (Antrim) - Posts: 128 - 12/10/2009 23:25:19    452551

i live in ireland i dont live in a free state the way its used and throwing around here is racist

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 12/10/2009 23:26:14    452554

Hipster, under what definition would you describe the use of the term Free State racist. Do you actually know what the term means?

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 12/10/2009 23:33:43    452568

There is nothing free in the South, they would charge you for the air if they could get away with it.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9816 - 12/10/2009 23:41:13    452581

In fairness to Shane Curran he never said anything about the 6 counties not being entitled to their grants.He just mentioned that they get them-something which a lot of people in the West,East and South might not have been aware of.
If you were to read the article in it's entirety you would see the point he was trying to make,the grants revelation was merely a minor point in the article.

fredrickwood (Roscommon) - Posts: 2871 - 13/10/2009 00:10:34    452603