The Glensman, there's a whole street in Co monaghan (including a garda station) that pay rent to nobility in England. I also know of a river in Cork where the landlord in England has put up fees for fishing on 'his' stretch.

As for McHale park I see it got at least £50,000 from britain towards its redevelopment!!

http://www.westernpeople.ie/news/story/?trs=eyeykfaumh

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 10/10/2009 20:51:22    450819

British money didn't pay for Peter Canavan or Mickey Harte or Cormac McAnallen or any other footballer brought up on the game he loves by an Irish community in a statelet occupied by britain.

northernpower (Tyrone) - Posts: 40 - 10/10/2009 20:56:11    450820

Enough of this rubbish. The bottom line is that the reason why Ulster counties have been so successful in recent times is because they are better than the rest of us. ENOUGH SAID.

REDROM (Offaly) - Posts: 208 - 10/10/2009 21:25:56    450829

OK fair enough here's my proposal to those saying "let's have a level playing field".

You take ALL the Unionist bigotry, Loyalists, the British Army, the PSNI/RUC, British intelligence and Security services, murders, threats, intimidation, pipe bombs on clubhouses, glass in pitches, attacks on club & supporters buses, number of GAA pitches in Belfast AND we'll give you the Northern grant money. Is that not a decent solution?

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9816 - 10/10/2009 22:23:13    450841

OmaghRedHand
JimboDub


All I can say is good posts unfortuantely any insight I have to support your points appears to be sensitive to the mods so ill leave it at I agree.

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 10/10/2009 22:31:36    450847

I have not read the other threads on this topic yet but i am totally disgusted about these comments!! who does this guy think he his! let me tell you this when Mickey Harte had these players at minor level im sure there was very little funding from north or south and same again at under 21 level when he won both under 18 and 21 all-ireland medals so money had nothing to do with it! i no from my own clubs county players that they use r club facilities for mosts of there training! so when it comes to football ability it has nothing to do with government funding. total disgrace this ex player has come out with these comment

Skyblue (Tyrone) - Posts: 193 - 10/10/2009 22:42:55    450860

British cash has helped the Northern teams. They have far better PE in their schools and better facilities. They have SINI in UUJ as well. I think Curran is overplaying it but it could well be a factor. None of the counties in the Republic are as organised at underage intercounty at U16 and minor in terms of player development(trust me I've seen the manuals) and it helps they are working in a framework where sport takes a higher precedence in schools. I'm a huge fan of Tyrone (and to a lesser extent Armagh) by the way.

The comment about Mayo getting funding from UK is ridiculous. They are getting money from ex pats in London, everyone from the IRA to the Tipp footballers have got some funding from Irish ex pats in London and further afield.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 10/10/2009 23:16:21    450890

Does London get funding from britain,free state, connacht(for football purposes),ulster(for hurling) and likewise new york??

Now thats real inequality?

Maybe shane's really miffed at the fact that those damn subversive nordies can have 2 passports and he cant!!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 10/10/2009 23:56:48    450913

There is no doubt that there are those who want Ulster, especially 6 county teams, to be excluded from the GAA. Despite historical facts and evidence they don't view the North as Irish or Northerners as part of the Irish nation and SAM going over the border is their ultimate nightmare. In another context this would be called fascism and racism but in reality this divisiveness is pushed, lauded and encouraged by many high profile Southern GAA figures, press and media pundits. It is no wonder we get stuff like this when others pave the way for it. It is time that Croke Park and the Ulster Council made a statement condemning the nasty bitter Southern bigotry that is starting to divide the Association.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9816 - 11/10/2009 00:02:59    450916

To be honest, I don't care where or how much money the northern counties have got to help their clubs. The way I see it is that these Northern clubs had to fight a way more than any of the southern clubs had to fight since the 1920s to survive. They are a credit to Ireland for keeping up, integrating and furthering the GAA in the north and I for one, would not begrudge them a penny/cent.

kerrykerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1779 - 11/10/2009 00:38:15    450930

this is a foolish thread....every county has football pitches dont they????....thats all you need when your a 7 year old starting to play......as for better facilities in uuj and queens to develop their skills further, whats stopping southern players going to college there???...NOTHING....alot of northern players go to dublin colleges anyway!!!!!.......i would recommend kerry players to go to uuj though.......help stop them from running out of steam when they meet ulster teams!!!!!!!.....working around the farm does not get you fit lads!!!!!!

.tribute (Cavan) - Posts: 360 - 11/10/2009 00:57:30    450944

ear Oh dear.

Tom 1916 finally agreeing with me that the Ulster final should not be played in a foreign country, only he appears to mean it!!!! Whatever next.

As for Lord Lucan, one of the big clubs in Belfast is named after him, and they received grants from the Duke of Edinburgh award scheme to do up the bear pit, home of Patrick Sarsfields.

Now you would have been better publishing my joke post, about the Tyrone jersey in future having a red hand holding a British tenner, than some of the highly contentious posts you did publish.

And Tom, I really am surprised at you.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 11/10/2009 01:06:41    450947

Lads get a grip. Money is money wherever it comes from & if the Six Counties get a bit extra then good luck to them. Games still have to be won on the field - money or no money. Kerry proved themselves in this regard & don't doubt for a minute that they were short a bob or two. Tyrone & Aemagh (and also Cavan, Monaghan, Donegal, Derry, Down and Fermanagh - sorrry Partique) have been great ambassadors for Gaelic Football over the past fifteen years.

If any or either of them took the Queen's shilling - well good luck to them. They paid their tax into the GB fund and why should they not expect a divvi.

Fair play to ye is what I say & a pity Kerryis so far south that we cannot avail of such funding ( maybe Walsh & Moran could stay at home if the Brits' money rolled in).

Beragh Red Knights are testimony as to what a small rural club can do. Their facilities are to die for & not a drop of blood was shed in the cause (Carrickmore eat ur heart's out).

dingle1 (Clare) - Posts: 805 - 11/10/2009 04:36:14    450963

So would I be correct in pointing out, by Shane Currans logic, both London and New York should be close to winning both the league and Championship in the next year or so with the money they'll received from both the UK and US Governments and of course from Croke Park!! Dont think so boys!!

kerrystar (Kerry) - Posts: 20 - 11/10/2009 10:34:07    450982

O' Gall....
"We're not not a bitter secterian society. Who ever owns what lands doesnt mean a great deal. You seem to have a problem with it. I dont care what nationality owns land. If you ever want to be a part of this great republic then the Nordies will have to come to this view point also"

Paddy- I don't have have a problem with it at all. My little condo in Donegal is testament to this!

Hey Paddy- Looks like you got caught with your hands in the till, again. Jumping onto the Nordie bandwagon at every opportunity. When your arguments are laid bare you resort to this inflammatory language.

Just a thought. In your false attempt at 'real debate' you might want to pause and think about all the children in multi cultural schools across the UK who benefit from grants from UK/Irish Governments/the GAA, so that they can participate in our national games.

Don't want to delay you too long as I know your ground rent is due!

TheGlensman (Antrim) - Posts: 123 - 11/10/2009 11:00:34    450986

A lot of Northern players are in college in dublin, name a few then... Its mainly lads from cavan and monaghan who play football in ucd,dcu dit etc and maybe the a few players from donegal.. But most of them would go to galway sligo or jordnstown.. fitzpatrick from down was with ucd last year bit i heard he is in jordanstown now...

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2874 - 11/10/2009 11:04:53    450992

Why shouldn't we take the money we pay taxes. Call it rent.

saffron21 (Antrim) - Posts: 138 - 11/10/2009 11:09:04    450995

Why should Shane Curran's comments about British Gov's funding for GAA clubs be considered controversial? Sure everybody knows he is only stating the truth. That's not Tyrone's or Armagh's fault. It is just their good fortune (for once !) to be still part of the United Kingdom. The other side of the coin shows that they have paid dearly over the generations for their good fortune !

michael (Cork) - Posts: 381 - 11/10/2009 11:11:09    450998

"Ask not what your County can do for you, but what you can do for your County"

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 11/10/2009 11:30:08    451011

Why did the giving of this 'money' only work in Tyrone and Armagh? Surely Antrim, Fermanagh, Derry and Down were getting the same treatment? Most of these counties have been pretty low in recent times.

Its a bit like the logic of Kerry having an easy run through Munster making it easier to win All Irelands. This logic should have also applied to the Antrim hurlers but (despite Patrique's protestations of greatness in the glens) I am afraid not....

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 11/10/2009 11:34:50    451016