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Poll* Would you like a United Ireland

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The Amazigh came from the Atlas mountain area of North Africa and many were fair skinned and blue eyed.

That's the boys, the Amazigh Celts.

But don't blame them for the French.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 13/10/2009 23:01:29    453719

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i dont know....the government find it hard to control ireland as it is.....dont think they could handle any more.......sure heck, they cant handle it anyway...so maybe YES!!!!

.tribute (Cavan) - Posts: 360 - 14/10/2009 00:21:46    453806

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There should be a United Ireland. Ireland originated as one Island, one country, one people. It was the greed and ultimately the selfishness of the Brits that took over what really is our 6 counties. 800 years of toil, torture and death they put our nation through. When we had the Great Famine in 1845, enough corn was produced in Ireland to feed the Irish, but it was exported by the Brits for maximum profit. The thing I simply do not understand, is how the North Of Ireland is still politically under their control. On what basis should they own the North? On the basis of a man who said so 800 odd years ago? The fact remains, Ireland was one country for thousands of years before then, and nothing can divide Ireland now. I feel desperately sorry for all people in The North Of Ireland who support a United Ireland, and they still have a bunch of Gombeens controlling them. Regardless of that, Ireland is still Ireland, nobody can ever change that except God. We will have a United Ireland, hopefully by peaceful means. North, South, East and West=Ireland-that will never change

TheGreenAndRed (Mayo) - Posts: 141 - 14/10/2009 09:54:29    453898

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The thing I simply do not understand, is how the North Of Ireland is still politically under their control


The biggest mistake Britain made regarding Ireland was the plantation of Ulster. Once you start moving people and 'planting' them into areas then there will always be trouble. To me, the plantation of ulster is akin to the Israeli settlers !! Sure, Britain would love to pull out but they are not going to take a million people with them and that's the whole problem they face-what to do with their million or so settlers?

Meath_bhoy (Meath) - Posts: 590 - 14/10/2009 10:51:54    453946

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Good post Green and Red, you have given me some faith back in your county!!

sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1073 - 14/10/2009 11:12:22    453971

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TheGreenAndRed
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453898 There should be a United Ireland. Ireland originated as one Island, one country, one people.

One people, Are you joking, they were constantly at war and raiding one anothers clittle fiefdoms, thats why one local leader invited in the Normans to side with him in local war

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 14/10/2009 14:34:48    454220

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dhorse
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454220 TheGreenAndRed
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453898 There should be a United Ireland. Ireland originated as one Island, one country, one people.

One people, Are you joking, they were constantly at war and raiding one anothers clittle fiefdoms, thats why one local leader invited in the Normans to side with him in local war

One people as in all Irish people. Also, you mustn't have been in for that history lesson in school. It was Diarmuid MacMurrough who invited King henry II over here. MacMurrugh was no 'local landlord' he was the high king of Leinster. He wanted help from Henry II to help him become High king of Leinster again after he was overthrown. Henry and 4000 other Normans came. That's when the Normans came.

So, please tell me how that was a local war?

Therefore, no I'm not joking. And please stop nit-picking my post, because you have no reasonable argument to put against it.

TheGreenAndRed (Mayo) - Posts: 141 - 14/10/2009 14:59:40    454267

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sean og
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453971 Good post Green and Red, you have given me some faith back in your county!!

Thanks Sean Og! And Likewise lol!

TheGreenAndRed (Mayo) - Posts: 141 - 14/10/2009 15:02:41    454271

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Does anyone here think Germany should not have been united?

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 14/10/2009 17:28:25    454502

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TheGreenAndRed County: Mayo Posts: 67 454267 dhorse County: Laois Posts: 3504 454220 TheGreenAndRed County: Mayo Posts: 64 453898 There should be a United Ireland. Ireland originated as one Island, one country, one people. One people, Are you joking, they were constantly at war and raiding one anothers clittle fiefdoms, thats why one >>> LOCAL LEADER>> invited in the Normans to side with him in local war One people as in all Irish people. Also, you mustn't have been in for that history lesson in school. It was Diarmuid MacMurrough who invited King henry II over here. MacMurrugh was no 'local landlord' he was the high king of Leinster. He wanted help from Henry II to help him become High king of Leinster again after he was overthrown. Henry and 4000 other Normans came. That's when the Normans came. So, please tell me how that was a local war? it was local to leinster, only south leinster as we know it today, which he had governed, not all of ireland. I was in attendance for quite a lot of history classes , i hope you dont accept the version of history you were treated to in catholic primary school. dig a little deeper and you will find that ireland was never governed by as one entity by irish. except for Brian Boru for about an hour before he was murdered by brudar, while praying of course. The Celts were invaders, do we need to go back and find the rightful owners previous to their arrival from gallicia. As for nit picking i love the way you changed Local leader to local landlord so seamlessly

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 14/10/2009 17:54:29    454543

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14/10/2009 09:54:29
TheGreenAndRed
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I feel desperately sorry for all people in The North Of Ireland who support a United Ireland, and they still have a bunch of Gombeens controlling them.


Are you sure you are not getting the North and the South confused?

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 14/10/2009 19:09:48    454613

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dhorse
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454543 TheGreenAndRed
County: Mayo
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454267 dhorse
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454220 TheGreenAndRed
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453898 There should be a United Ireland. Ireland originated as one Island, one country, one people.

One people, Are you joking, they were constantly at war and raiding one anothers clittle fiefdoms, thats why one >>> LOCAL LEADER>> invited in the Normans to side with him in local war

One people as in all Irish people. Also, you mustn't have been in for that history lesson in school. It was Diarmuid MacMurrough who invited King henry II over here. MacMurrugh was no 'local landlord' he was the high king of Leinster. He wanted help from Henry II to help him become High king of Leinster again after he was overthrown. Henry and 4000 other Normans came. That's when the Normans came.

So, please tell me how that was a local war?
it was local to leinster, only south leinster as we know it today, which he had governed, not all of ireland. I was in attendance for quite a lot of history classes , i hope you dont accept the version of history you were treated to in catholic primary school. dig a little deeper and you will find that ireland was never governed by as one entity by irish. except for Brian Boru for about an hour before he was murdered by brudar, while praying of course.
The Celts were invaders, do we need to go back and find the rightful owners previous to their arrival from gallicia.

As for nit picking i love the way you changed Local leader to local landlord so seamlessly
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hmmm, i dont remember mentioning landlord in my post? And i think it's great the way ya try and get out of your history mistake 'local to leinster'-ha, ya made my day a little more jolly!

So we could say that France doesnt really belong to the French. I mean, back in the Ice Age big hairy men took it over, wouldnt they have? Who hunted and gathered food? So really, the French that are in France now, are nobodys. isn't that what youre effectively saying about us?

So my passort is wrong then? Wow, if im not really Irish, what nationality am I-Celtic? What country do they come from? Celtland?

Pull yourself together Horsey, what youre effectively saying is that because the Celts came here in 650 BC and settled in Ireland, Ireland never belonged to the Irish! hahahaha, if I didnt cry id laugh!!!!

TheGreenAndRed (Mayo) - Posts: 141 - 14/10/2009 19:29:09    454637

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454637 Greenandred give up the dhorse will ate you

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 14/10/2009 19:36:05    454644

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i can never understand why some irish people willingly just take the unionist side of the arguement. the argue against their own country for no reason. the vast vast majority of unionists will all take the unionist side of things but a good percentage of irish will also take it for no reason. its disgraceful. why not kick their county out of the country and see how they like it

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4201 - 14/10/2009 19:51:09    454658

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this will never happen lock this thread admin

dubsforsam09 (Dublin) - Posts: 205 - 14/10/2009 20:53:27    454706

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Maith an Fear, 32_4_1

TheGreenAndRed (Mayo) - Posts: 141 - 14/10/2009 21:10:24    454716

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tomaoo7
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454644 TheGreenAndRed
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454637 Greenandred give up the dhorse will ate you

Ara sure he's only a teddy bear! Besides, horses dont eat humans;-)

TheGreenAndRed (Mayo) - Posts: 141 - 14/10/2009 21:14:36    454721

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13/10/2009 23:01:29 patrique County: Antrim Posts: 4817 453719 The Amazigh came from the Atlas mountain area of North Africa and many were fair skinned and blue eyed. That's the boys, the Amazigh Celts. But don't blame them for the French. 14/10/2009 00:21:46 .tribute County: Cavan Posts: 151 453806 i dont know....the government find it hard to control ireland as it is.....dont think they could handle any more.......sure heck, they cant handle it anyway...so maybe YES!!!! 14/10/2009 09:54:29 TheGreenAndRed County: Mayo Posts: 71 453898 There should be a United Ireland. Ireland originated as one Island, one country, one people. It was the greed and ultimately the selfishness of the Brits that took over what really is our 6 counties. 800 years of toil, torture and death they put our nation through. When we had the Great Famine in 1845, enough corn was produced in Ireland to feed the Irish, but it was exported by the Brits for maximum profit. The thing I simply do not understand, is how the North Of Ireland is still politically under their control. On what basis should they own the North? On the basis of a man who said so 800 odd years ago? The fact remains, Ireland was one country for thousands of years before then, and nothing can divide Ireland now. I feel desperately sorry for all people in The North Of Ireland who support a United Ireland, and they still have a bunch of Gombeens controlling them. Regardless of that, Ireland is still Ireland, nobody can ever change that except God. We will have a United Ireland, hopefully by peaceful means. North, South, East and West=Ireland-that will never change 14/10/2009 10:51:54 Meath_bhoy County: Meath Posts: 210 453946 The thing I simply do not understand, is how the North Of Ireland is still politically under their control The biggest mistake Britain made regarding Ireland was the plantation of Ulster. Once you start moving people and 'planting' them into areas then there will always be trouble. To me, the plantation of ulster is akin to the Israeli settlers !! Sure, Britain would love to pull out but they are not going to take a million people with them and that's the whole problem they face-what to do with their million or so settlers? 14/10/2009 11:12:22 sean og County: Armagh Posts: 668 453971 Good post Green and Red, you have given me some faith back in your county!! 14/10/2009 14:34:48 dhorse County: Laois Posts: 3534 454220 TheGreenAndRed County: Mayo Posts: 64 453898 There should be a United Ireland. Ireland originated as one Island, one country, one people. One people, Are you joking, they were constantly at war and raiding one anothers clittle fiefdoms, thats why one local leader invited in the Normans to side with him in local war 14/10/2009 14:59:40 TheGreenAndRed County: Mayo Posts: 71 454267 dhorse County: Laois Posts: 3504 454220 TheGreenAndRed County: Mayo Posts: 64 453898 There should be a United Ireland. Ireland originated as one Island, one country, one people. One people, Are you joking, they were constantly at war and raiding one anothers clittle fiefdoms, thats why one local leader invited in the Normans to side with him in local war One people as in all Irish people. Also, you mustn't have been in for that history lesson in school. It was Diarmuid MacMurrough who invited King henry II over here. MacMurrugh was no 'local landlord' Who is horsey

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 15/10/2009 10:42:41    455124

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hmmm, i dont remember mentioning landlord in my post? And i think it's great the way ya try and get out of your history mistake 'local to leinster'-ha, ya made my day a little more jolly!

So we could say that France doesnt really belong to the French. I mean, back in the Ice Age big hairy men took it over, wouldnt they have? Who hunted and gathered food? So really, the French that are in France now, are nobodys. isn't that what youre effectively saying about us?


I'm merely trying to get you to give your definition of what irish people are.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 15/10/2009 10:46:08    455128

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So my passort is wrong then? Wow, if im not really Irish, what nationality am I-Celtic? What country do they come from? Celtland?

I'm sure your passport is fine, and you are irish, Celts originated as a race in northern Spain/portugal as far as most historians are concerned. your idea of having a united ireland will be bothersome if 1 million folk dont want that passport if the passport is how you define nationhood, unless of course you want to send back to where their ancestors came from, but the problem with that is we will all end up being sent somewhere.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 15/10/2009 10:50:53    455137

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