players can still do it, just not as many. For most players, long range scores are not the "brief" given by the manager, it may well be just to harry and hassle, and when they have the ball, lay it off to the lads who CAN kick good scores...

just the way it is nowadays..

banner_boy (Clare) - Posts: 1285 - 15/09/2009 14:05:58    426502

They don't have the benefit of Sticks and a smaller ball, pudders.We all know your reason for bringing up this thread,another anti-football rant from the anti-football county.

fredrickwood (Roscommon) - Posts: 2871 - 15/09/2009 15:02:47    426596

Niamh
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Don't think that would work, you would need camera evidence which would take a couple of minutes at a time, it would make it similar to Basketball.

Ps, where have you been recently, your not on much

You wouldnt need video evidence. If referees in rugby can tell is a ball is kicked from inside the '22 then it cant be hard to tell if a ball has been kicked from outside the '45. I would like to see it experimented with but I can see managers getting frustrated with players going for glory with long range shots.

Rocksteady (Cavan) - Posts: 64 - 15/09/2009 15:15:54    426621

Rocksteady, what if a team were up by a point in the last minute of a game and the other team scores a point around the 45, its a crucial score can the ref tell 100% which side of the 45 he was on in the split second he kicked it?

Niamh (Derry) - Posts: 2397 - 15/09/2009 15:27:29    426641

Agree to a point. Was watching Armagh v Kerry final in 2002 - it was long range points which won it for Armagh. They were getting it tight in close to the goals - but long range points from Clarke - 2, Marsden - 2 and McEntee gave them five valuable points. That is what the current Armagh team cant produce. Even watching Crossmaglen down through the years - they won most games in low scoring affairs with long range points.
I also thought that this kept Kildare in touch against Dublin this year - they could hammer it over from the 45.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 15/09/2009 15:47:35    426674

fredrickwood County: Roscommon Posts: 953 426596 They don't have the benefit of Sticks and a smaller ball, pudders.We all know your reason for bringing up this thread,another anti-football rant from the anti-football county. I'm not anti football. But I would admit I don't have a love for the game in its current style. I much prefer footballers to kick the ball rather than continual hand pass. And its not some pub conversation when drunk (although I said it to a west cork lad in the pub who agreed with me.) I also have more county football medals than hurling under age. And I appear to have agreement from a pro-football poster: castlemaine County: Kerry Posts: 221 425707 A very valid point. Few footballers can do it from 30 yards. Its the way the gaame has gone, the basic skill of a forward kicking from long range is gone. O Neill kicked a great point recently McMahon done like wise. Young players are now meant to do workman like jobs rather than the old game. And until the hurling final, the best GAA matches for me this year had been gaelic football matches..also Kilkenny have won a gaelic football all-ireland in more recent times than Roscommon have won a hurling all Ireland.

Puddersthecat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1692 - 15/09/2009 17:46:09    426872

Really Pudders,so remind me what that was and when they won it?

fredrickwood (Roscommon) - Posts: 2871 - 15/09/2009 22:10:33    427148

well when you think of the amount of tems that rely on 1 or 2 lads for all the scores one really must wonder

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 15/09/2009 22:24:02    427196

15/09/2009 22:10:33
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427148 Really Pudders,so remind me what that was and when they won it?


Ladies Junior All Ireland Football champions 2007

Puddersthecat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1692 - 16/09/2009 09:30:25    427430

Niamh County: Derry Posts: 2223 426641 Rocksteady, what if a team were up by a point in the last minute of a game and the other team scores a point around the 45, its a crucial score can the ref tell 100% which side of the 45 he was on in the split second he kicked it? Isn't that what the referee is there to do, make these decisions! That's where help from the lines men can be of use, something which isn't done enough of. He will have time to consult his lines men to get their views IF he is unsure. I think its more clear cut then for example, the penalty in the hurling final. And for hurling people I mean was it over carrying the ball of a foul outside the box, it for sure wasn't a penalty but that has been done to death here!

Rocksteady (Cavan) - Posts: 64 - 16/09/2009 12:08:54    427592

Pudders-You will be pleased to know the Nicky Rackard Cup Champions 2007 were the Mighty Rossies.

fredrickwood (Roscommon) - Posts: 2871 - 16/09/2009 13:22:52    427688

i think what we all need to ask is why doesnt the likes of noel o'leary and paul galvin have sticks in matches, now that would make entertainment.

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 16/09/2009 21:00:42    428235

Nice comment Hokey Pokey. But remember Paul Galvin played in 4 County Senior Final in the same year. Feale Rangers and Lixnaw in Kerry UCC in Cork. May I add heis a decent hurler.

castlemaine (Kerry) - Posts: 546 - 16/09/2009 22:10:50    428319

16/09/2009 13:22:52
fredrickwood
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427688 Pudders-You will be pleased to know the Nicky Rackard Cup Champions 2007 were the Mighty Rossies.


Well done Roscommon. But that match was held before the Ladies Junior Final that year. So my comment remains correct. When was your last football trophy? ;-)

Puddersthecat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1692 - 17/09/2009 09:14:01    428505

It's the same year Pudders,You really are cluthcing at straws.We won an AI-minor football in 2006 and our last provincial football crown was 2001.You see pudders there is the small matter of Galway and Mayo to be dealt with every year for us-both much Larger counties with 2/3 times the amount of clubs we have.The fact is we have a small band of dedicated people who put their heart and soul into Hurling in this county,We have won AI 'b' minor and u21 Hurling titles in recent times and Nicky Rackard,It may not be a great level to you,But it is the level we are at and I will make no apologies for it.
We put way more into Hurling here than you guys put into Football.That's a reality Pudders and we have the silverware to prove it.Ive nothing against Kilkenny,the Hurlers have been brilliant to watch again this year,unlike some bitter posters I would'nt have a bad word to say about them.But less of the cheap shots.

fredrickwood (Roscommon) - Posts: 2871 - 17/09/2009 13:25:53    428776