if half the st johns team dont get an under21 or senior trial its a disgrace, st johns 6 forwards should at least be considered. they all have thir own individual qualities.... donie reale must be on limerickl senior panel.. if barry ryan, matthew Quirke are not considerd for the county u21 in 2 years its a joke... these 2 men got inspirational scores at vital times yesterday not fancy hurlers but very effective... how keith o c and brendan o D were not on the county minor panel this year bewilders me.. john fitz classy forward must also be considered.. st johns backs also very good darragh o sullivan, dinny ahern, mark deegan, john connery all top backs would hold nost forwards within the county and did so yesterdeay..

qwerty1234 (Limerick) - Posts: 44 - 30/11/2009 13:30:56    498262

Cian Hayes the Killulta full back was outstanding yesterday. Man of the Match performance I thought

Porterville (Limerick) - Posts: 5 - 30/11/2009 15:01:32    498365

i find the joining of h/h with kilteely dromkeen very unfair on other teams competing in the B grade, reguardless of the fact only four players joining the panel it was hard on the likes of bruree athlacca knockainey etc,,athlacca and bruree was thrown out for fielding u16 players,, surley playing players from thier own parish is moea accectable the joining with other parishes.if either bruree athlacca or knockainey were given the 4 players that joined the h/h panel i have no doubt they too would win the county.

hurlinsouth (Limerick) - Posts: 4 - 30/11/2009 15:46:35    498420

If 1/2 these st johns players ar good enuf 4 county teams how is it that they wernt playing A given that they are an amalgamation of 2 clubs. its a disgrace that 2 teams like cappamore and croagh wernt in that final! Something has to be done. If kilteely cannot field underage teams on their own then they should find 1 club that they play with consistently not swap and change. They were with ballybricken a few years ago aswell. It is unfair on the teams who scrape together16 or 17 players in a B championship to come against amalgamated sides. Hospital herbertstown would nearly be gud enuf 2 win that championship on their own as they did a few years ago without the best of the kilteely lads aswel.

placedballs1 (Limerick) - Posts: 42 - 30/11/2009 15:48:53    498421

I agree cian hayes was outstanding yesterday, surely a county u21 next year.... deegen at wing back and reale at mid field were very impressive for h/h also. killulta were never going to win it h/h were simply 2 powerfull all over the field. killulta showed some fight just after half time but credit to H/H, they dug in and won easily enough in the end. What did ya think of the ref. heard alot of people complaining about him but i thought he did a fine job. Let the game flow..

utilityplayer (Limerick) - Posts: 61 - 30/11/2009 18:37:33    498641

i agree, cian hayes had a fantastic game at full back...he held donie reale scoreless at full forward, reale however did show real class when moved to midfield and began to dominate the game. Eoin o' Brien also had a good game for killulta at center back while stephen mckeogh was deadly accurate from dead balls in bad conditions. on the winning side there halfback line of dinny ahern, mark deegan and john connery dominated the match, while gerry murphy was a driving force at midfield. reale came into his own at the end of the game which johns should have had wrapped up in the 1st half...

brightspark (Limerick) - Posts: 25 - 30/11/2009 19:39:24    498720

wat about matty quirkes 2 points off cian hayes in the first half made him look very average , beat him to 2 balls and 2 points were the result.... oh i agree cian hayes is a serious player just a taught.......

qwerty1234 (Limerick) - Posts: 44 - 30/11/2009 20:43:59    498792

Well done to both teams yesterday for a fine good match for the time of the year. Cian Hayes Eoin O Brien and S McKeogh with his free taking are no doubt three players for the future for the gaels. But lads hospital had some oustanding performances in Brian Reale Gerry Murphy ( man of the match ) the half back line who worked very hard all day the full back line was solid and the six forwards all of them played very well. It was the hunger and the will to win that won it for hospital very few teams would have beaten st johns yesterday with the heart they showed

Limerick96 (Limerick) - Posts: 6 - 30/11/2009 21:24:11    498854

Whats done is done and down the line nobodys going to really know or care who st.johns or amalgamation gaels are or were. Maybe from next year the least that can be done is that these made up teams/amalgamations be entered automatically into ' A ' competitions,or else we'll all start amalgamating.Whats good for the goose...

eastgael (Limerick) - Posts: 629 - 01/12/2009 09:45:27    499171

go for it eastgael..... maybe then we wont have to listen to your sour grapes.

utilityplayer (Limerick) - Posts: 61 - 01/12/2009 10:37:14    499209

Firstly, it is not solely the decision of the clubs which division their team plays in. The south and city boards had the power to put St.Johns and Kilultra Gaels into the A division but they did not. I'm sure neither club would have objected to playing in the A division(with Kilultra reaching the B final last year and H/H, on their own a strong side, receiving Kilteely's 4 best u21 hurlers).

Secondly, it is not uncommon for ammalgamated sides to play in a B division in Limerick; Mick Nevilles, Cois Laoi Gaels, Naomh Brìd etc

Thirdly, the quality of hurling served up by both teams in the final was fantastic. One must remember that all the clubs featured (Kildimo, Pallaskenry, Kilteely/Dromkeen and Hospital/Herbertsown) play in the junior or intermediate championships. The vast majority of clubs in the A division are Senior cubs. It is great to see then that despite the clubs being joined, they still have players of high quality in the second&third tier clubs and is that not a welcome boast for hurling in this county?

Lastly, I have no doubt, that both these sides will be playing in the A division next year if they stay in combinations, on the basis that they both reached the B final.

einstein (Limerick) - Posts: 47 - 01/12/2009 11:53:27    499283

Firstly, it is not solely the decision of the clubs which division their team plays in. The south and city boards had the power to put St.Johns and Kilultra Gaels into the A division but they did not. I'm sure neither club would have objected to playing in the A division(with Kilultra reaching the B final last year and H/H, on their own a strong side, receiving Kilteely's 4 best u21 hurlers).

Secondly, it is not uncommon for ammalgamated sides to play in a B division in Limerick; Mick Nevilles, Cois Laoi Gaels, Naomh Brìd etc

Thirdly, the quality of hurling served up by both teams in the final was fantastic. One must remember that all the clubs featured (Kildimo, Pallaskenry, Kilteely/Dromkeen and Hospital/Herbertsown) play in the junior or intermediate championships. The vast majority of clubs in the A division are Senior cubs. It is great to see then that despite the clubs being joined, they still have players of high quality in the second&third tier clubs and is that not a welcome boast for hurling in this county?

Lastly, I have no doubt, that both these sides will be playing in the A division next year if they stay in combinations, on the basis that they both reached the B final.

einstein (Limerick) - Posts: 47 - 01/12/2009 11:53:46    499284

Kilulta Gaels refused to play in the A division in the City and they were pressed hard to by chairman. The other amalgamated city teams plus Munget went up to the A dvision but not Kllulta. Fact

Clubgaa (Limerick) - Posts: 879 - 01/12/2009 12:50:38    499356

Utility Player,if it was up to me amalgamations would only compete in the ' A ' championship.But its not up to me.What sour grapes has to do with that i don't know. Are you being a little defensive because many gaels feel these amalgamations are undermining clubs who are entered into so called B competitions and with limited panels find themselves coming up against amalgamated teams. I know who i'd be shouting for at these games. But sure once you have your B county medal with amalgamation gaels in the pocket,who cares how you got it!

eastgael (Limerick) - Posts: 629 - 01/12/2009 13:26:21    499391

just wondering if St Johns used any under 16s in this years championship?

mikeyd (Limerick) - Posts: 8 - 01/12/2009 15:04:34    499482

I would leave the top grade as it with the best club's and amalgamations playing.

However, would it be feasible to run two competitions below that. One for club sides and one for amalgamations. Each division would provide two club teams for a county competition with quarter finals/semi finals and final and one amalgmation for a competition with semi-finals and final. Everyone gets to play and all are on an equal footing.

Anonymous (Limerick) - Posts: 42 - 01/12/2009 15:24:22    499508

I cannot understand how kilteely cant field an u21 team if their playing in the A grade in minor. The rule stoping players playing 2 grades above their own is a joke and alot of the reason why there were 2 amalgamated teams in the final.

placedballs1 (Limerick) - Posts: 42 - 01/12/2009 16:39:27    499586

placedballs1

Have a read back there though the previous pages and its explained a few times, dont just jump on the 'eastgael' anti Kilteely bandwagon.

2fromplay (Limerick) - Posts: 36 - 05/12/2009 14:15:08    503982

Mikey D st johns did not play any 16s aughallaun gaels did in their quarter final. the player was from county boards chairmans club will the same punishment be handed out as that which handed out to bruree and dromin attlacca

123fedup (Limerick) - Posts: 225 - 05/12/2009 16:14:38    504075

123fedup..... are u really sure St jOHNS DIDNT PLAY under 16 players?.....i would be staying quite if i was you,,,,,

mikeyd (Limerick) - Posts: 8 - 07/12/2009 09:56:26    505614