Patrique, re:Scottish league,Who mentioned that? Players with ambition go to the premier league,players who want to coast towards mediocrity go to scotland.The Premiership is the most watched league in the world.If the same teams keep winning it that's cos they're the best! You obviously feel that United have underacheived in Europe and I agree Patrique-They have.Shock Horror!Even Fergie himself has admitted this. But before you rush to reply think of this: United-contrary to popular belief-have not competed in the CL for the past 20 years.About 14 maybe and allowing for the first year or 2 finding their feet etc,you could say 12(We were hardly Euro top-dogs when we came back into Europe after 26 years)In that time the big-guns have won the CL: Madrid (3) Man Utd (2) Milan (3) Munich (1) L'pool (1) Barca (2) Juve (1) Inter(0) Arsenal(0) Chelsea(0) So we are hardly languishing in the doldrums when you look at it closer. I can't possibly comment on the laughable notion of City playin in Europe until it actually happens.

fredrickwood (Roscommon) - Posts: 2871 - 02/10/2009 17:16:18    443238

I love the 'we' about Manchester United from Roscommon.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 02/10/2009 22:55:26    443528

fred when you made your list big gun teams who have won it in the last 20 years you forgot to mention the 4th most successful club europe has ever seen A.F.C AJAX of Amsterdam. one of he greats. a lot more successful than united with way less than half the resources and produced the greatest european footballer ever and probably the best ever- Johan Cruyff.

champions leagues: AJAX- 4, man u- 3
cup winners cup: AJAX-1, man u-1
uefa cup: AJAX- 1, man u- 0
domestic league: AJAX- 29, man u- 18
domestic cup- AJAX- 17, utd- 11

so why dont ajax get a mention

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4162 - 03/10/2009 00:18:03    443603

fredrickwood
County: Roscommon
Posts: 1035

443238
Patrique, re:Scottish league,Who mentioned that?



Amazingly you were right, yes it was me.

Was it a guess or intuition?

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 03/10/2009 00:39:28    443615

If that's the best response happy days.In fact RKF that is a pet hate of mine as well people who use "we" in reference of teams across the way.I don't usually let slip on it but it may have been appropriate on this occasion.

fredrickwood (Roscommon) - Posts: 2871 - 03/10/2009 08:44:35    443671

32_4_1
County: Meath
Posts: 1072

443603
fred when you made your list big gun teams who have won it in the last 20 years you forgot to mention the 4th most successful club europe has ever seen A.F.C AJAX of Amsterdam. one of he greats. a lot more successful than united with way less than half the resources and produced the greatest european footballer ever and probably the best ever- Johan Cruyff.

champions leagues: AJAX- 4, man u- 3
cup winners cup: AJAX-1, man u-1
uefa cup: AJAX- 1, man u- 0
domestic league: AJAX- 29, man u- 18
domestic cup- AJAX- 17, utd- 11

so why dont ajax get a mention


Ajax do not get a mention because they are not really a BIG club, like Milan, Real, Munich, Juve, Liverpool and such.

They may be bigger than some who do get a mention I admit.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 03/10/2009 14:46:30    443841

fredrickwood
County: Roscommon
Posts: 1041


You obviously feel that United have underacheived in Europe and I agree Patrique-They have.Shock Horror!Even Fergie himself has admitted this.



Best keep this quiet. Only four people seem to know this, you, me, Fergie and David Lacey.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 03/10/2009 18:46:33    443992

Not all supporters are blinkered Patrique.32 I agree Ajax are a great club although it would be a challenge for them to rise again amongst Europes elite.

fredrickwood (Roscommon) - Posts: 2871 - 03/10/2009 19:40:10    444018

Love:
Meath GAA and Peader Byrne
Liverpool
Tipperary Hurling
Lienster
Ireland Rugby
Man City
Eamon O'Brien

Hate:
Dublin,Monoghan,Louth,Wexford and Cavan GAA Ciaran Whelan
Man United,Chelsea,
England Rugby.Snobby Pigs
England international Soccer team.Over rated wasters.
Andy Murray
Alex Ferguson, no respect fo other teams or Managers.
Banty McEneany
LMFM Sports reporters
Joe Brolly,Showed no respect to Meath GAA all year.

12Royal (Meath) - Posts: 987 - 03/10/2009 19:44:54    444026

AJAX are a big club like it or not. i can only imagine you said they wernt in comparison to say liverpool due to their off the field activities. but if thats the case why is this small clubs stadium bigger with talks of expanding it to around 70000. why do they have one of the biggest fan bases in the world. or what do you base a "big club" on. every team goes through bad patches and ajax did in the last few years but now they have a quality manager and some very good players. they play in a "small league" granted but will win it easy enough this year and will be back in the champions league. when they get that far they normally progress to the latter stages of the champions league. add to the fact they will bring up another few very talented players through their academy in the next year they could become quite a force. their last two outings in the champions league proper they got beaten in two quater finals v milan and inter. last minute goals won it for the two milan clubs. ajax are a club that will always pop up every so often and win it due to their youth academy. theres only so long you can keep them down for. they are a BIG club and are one of only 5 teams to have the uefa badge of honour and keep the trophy. the only other clubs are milan, munich, madrid and liverpool. wheres the other "big" clubs inter, juve, man united, arsenal etc.

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4162 - 03/10/2009 19:49:58    444032

mondred
County: Wexford
Posts: 528

442597
hate soccer

Your loss

trimmer (Meath) - Posts: 542 - 03/10/2009 20:41:00    444069

I know it was a slip. I am a big follower of soccer but would never use 'we' when I refer to Chelsea. Might be inclined to use re St. Pats. as I have gone to a lot of their games over the years and live not far away.Usually enjoy asking people which part of Manchester,Liverpool etc. are you from?

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 03/10/2009 22:50:48    444148

Love:Celtic,Meath
Hate:Rangers,England,NI,Dublin,Westmeath

RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 05/10/2009 23:35:04    445957

Love: GAA - Tyrone, Antrim, Armagh, Dublin, Waterford Soccer - Celtic, Arsenal, Roma, The Republic of Ireland Rugby - Ireland, New Zealand Australian Rules in general (great sport) Hate: GAA - Derry, Moortown (Tyrone), Coalisland (Tyrone), Ballinderry (Tyrone/Derry), St Brigids (Belfast) Soccer - Rangers, Linfield, Hearts, Hibernian, Liverpool, Millwall, Crystal Palace, Spurs, Hamburg, Lazio, Real Madrid, West Ham, Northern Ireland Rugby - England, Scotland, South Africa, Munster, Leinster Hockey, Cricket and Olympic 'Handball' in general.

CheFinny (UK) - Posts: 1358 - 07/10/2009 11:41:09    447341

Re 32 4 1,
Its you who want to get your facts right= 1Man city are the richest club. 2 Real Madrid has the highest revenue. 3 Man utd have the highest fan base 330million worldwide thats 5% of the worlds population.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 07/10/2009 16:36:26    447722

Too much hate on here. Way too much.

RAM85 (Westmeath) - Posts: 978 - 07/10/2009 16:57:11    447773

mulligan eamonn when you talk about the richest club in the world its the revenue.

give me an official link to say united have a bigger fan base than madrid. because i copied and pasted your sentence into google search and you took it straight of wiki answers where someone else posted that "factual" information

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4162 - 07/10/2009 17:47:05    447848

Yeoooo CheFinny easy there. Why derry? Eh you cheeky wee squirrel

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 07/10/2009 17:50:25    447851

Orlaith
County: Derry
Posts: 1620

423963 Love- Football and Hurling

Hate - Soccer, Tennis, Cricket, Olympics, Rugby Orlaith


Hate
NI
Man Utd
Arsenal
Liverpool
Chealsea
Man City


THAT"S A LOT OF HATE FOR ONE PERSON TO CARRY, GET HELP

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 07/10/2009 19:43:04    447957

Love
Wane Rooney and Michael Owen

Hate
Everyone else from Liverpool ...... O except Jim from the royal family...hate his lazy daughter do.

chainsaw (Laois) - Posts: 712 - 09/10/2009 15:54:17    449747