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The Best Footballer never to win an All Ireland

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Ciaran McDonald or Declan Browne in my lifetime. If Cork don't win this year I fear Graham Canty will be joining the list.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 10/09/2009 21:00:31    422381

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i will name a few but there is hundreds eamonn heery, ciaran whelan,liam mchale, frankie dolan ,kevin o brien , frank mc guigan, thats just a tiny few

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 10/09/2009 21:04:57    422388

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Pele, Maradona, Cruff, Beckenbauer - all great footballers but no All-Ireland medals to their name!

Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 10/09/2009 21:10:24    422397

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From Wicklow... Kevin O'Brien. From Tipp, Declan Browne. Wexford... Mattie Forde. From Carlow... Johnny Nevin. Thats in the last few years. Obviously there is a fair few from Dublin and Mayo also... Whelan... and McDonald.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1875 - 10/09/2009 21:17:46    422411

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10/09/2009 19:49:33 Rahilly_Man County: Tyrone Posts: 286 422321 maybe patrique or niamh could name me someone better and then maybe i'l change my mind. Going by so called experts Kevin Armstrong has strong claims as best footballer and best hurler. So Frank is not a nailed on cert. I mention Armstrong as he has no challengers as Ulsters best ever GAA exponent, a legend in both codes. On a national level you could try Packy McGarty,(Leitrim)Gerry O'malley,(Roscommon) Willie Joe Padden, Ciaran McDonald, both Mayo, Iggy Jones (Tyrone) Jim McKeever, Sean O'Connell (Derry) Andy McCailin (Antrim) Hudie beag gallagher (Donegal) Al Murray (Armagh) Declan Browne, Mattie Forde, Cyril Hughes (Carlow) Benny Gaughan (Louth) Just a sample. Or could I suggest that between 1884 and 1959 there were a host of players from counties in Ulster, outside Cavan, who were deserving of all Ireland medals? To be honest, you could easily name 200 players today who are better in a given position than someone who has won maybe two or three all Ireland medals. So as I say, I could give maybe 2,000 alternatives to Frank, great player that he was, without scratching the surface. Perhaps I was merely suggesting that there is life outside Tyrone. Cork have won 6 all Ireland titles at football. Can you imagine how many great Cork players DIDN'T win Celtic crosses, especially between 1978 and 86 when they probably were the 2nd best team in Ireland? So I appreciate and welcome your choice of Frank, an all time great, but there have been many others.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 10/09/2009 21:23:39    422424

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Tommy Murphy from laois, a true legend and one of only two(i think) of the an post football team

Baxter (Laois) - Posts: 282 - 10/09/2009 21:56:39    422514

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Tommy Murphy from laois, a true legend and one of only two(i think) of the an post millennium team football team to be a unanimous selection.

Baxter (Laois) - Posts: 282 - 10/09/2009 21:57:21    422519

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Certainly the king Frank was the best but there has been plenty others you could mention nudie hughes from monaghan or mickey kierans sligo declan brown also was a terrific footballer

10foottall (Tyrone) - Posts: 44 - 10/09/2009 22:55:11    422619

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Dermot Earley.

fredrickwood (Roscommon) - Posts: 2871 - 10/09/2009 23:09:58    422634

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Meath footballer in the 1930s, Tommy "The Boiler" McGuinness has no All-Ireland medals and he was very good. Ard Ri will tell you all about him.

Peader Byrne has no All-Irelands either.

Loyal2TheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 4522 - 10/09/2009 23:22:54    422648

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Patrique we all believed for about five years when Kerry were at their peak in the late seventies and early eighties that Cork were the second best team in Ireland. That myth and it was a myth was exposed for what it was when Cok met Dublin in the All-Ireland semi-final of 1983.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6180 - 10/09/2009 23:27:40    422654

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Frank McGuigan and Paddy "fenny" McBride

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 10/09/2009 23:28:07    422655

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Patrique we all believed for about five years when Kerry were at their peak in the late seventies and early eighties that Cork were the second best team in Ireland. That myth and it was a myth was exposed for what it was when Cok met Dublin in the All-Ireland semi-final of 1983.



The myth was Cork were "PROBABLY" the 2nd best team. Obviously Dublin, with 9 all Ireland finals, and 4 victories were.

Mind you, it was a REPLAY.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 10/09/2009 23:33:49    422669

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422669 Greengrass
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Patrique we all believed for about five years when Kerry were at their peak in the late seventies and early eighties that Cork were the second best team in Ireland. That myth and it was a myth was exposed for what it was when Cok met Dublin in the All-Ireland semi-final of 1983.



The myth was Cork were "PROBABLY" the 2nd best team. Obviously Dublin, with 9 all Ireland finals, and 4 victories were.

Mind you, it was a REPLAY.
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ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 10/09/2009 23:55:56    422690

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Colin Corkery

Sands81 (Clare) - Posts: 7 - 11/09/2009 03:47:09    422748

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Every player to ever play for longford

bighoss (Longford) - Posts: 11 - 11/09/2009 07:17:03    422754

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never thought that patrique would name kevin armstrong or andy mccallin!! there is life outside antrim you know.

orange and blue (Tyrone) - Posts: 1080 - 11/09/2009 08:56:42    422772

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I think its definately ciaran mcdonald

zidane (Galway) - Posts: 272 - 11/09/2009 10:28:56    422851

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Mickey Quinn Leitrim
Frank McGuigan Tyrone
Eugene McKenna - Tyrone
Joe kernan - Armagh
Ger Houlihan Armagh
Nudie Hughes - Monaghan
Tony McManus - Roscommon
Peter McGinnity -Fermanagh
Brian McEniff - Donegal

mugsys_barber (Tyrone) - Posts: 2160 - 11/09/2009 10:48:28    422874

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1 Willie Jo Padden MO
2 Dermot Early RN
3 Dessie Dolan WH
4 Adge King CN
5 Mattie Forde WX

georgelee (Louth) - Posts: 523 - 11/09/2009 10:53:16    422877

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