How long are the Liverpool board gunna leave this man in charge - he hasnt got a baldys.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 24/08/2009 22:09:52    402863

He can't do much with limited funds.

Niamh (Derry) - Posts: 2397 - 24/08/2009 22:42:00    402922

we have no flare going forward, johnsons about it.. players like david silva, rafael van der vart and wesley sneidjer need to be bought now if we are serious about contending this year

an_baile_nua (Tyrone) - Posts: 224 - 24/08/2009 22:49:13    402938

The sooner he gets sacked the better

mondred (Wexford) - Posts: 872 - 24/08/2009 22:57:56    402953

Jeezzzzzzzzzz, how many more threads are we going to see on this man, but seeing as we're here, Rafa blew it last year, he will never get a better chance of winning the premiership than last season, pool were 10 points clear at the top and he starts tinkering with the team, not to mention disaster he made of the whole Robby Keane issue which I think cost cost liverpool the title. He moans about not having money to spend and he sells back Keane to Spurs at a Loss at such. He says Keane was'nt good enough and look at the players he has now instead of him, Voronin, babel(bamby), engog, elzar, Keane would wipe the floor with these guys. Benitez is Bizzare to say the least.

PJ (None) - Posts: 2288 - 24/08/2009 23:14:58    402981

Leave the FSW there,he is doin a fine job.20 years,20 years.

fredrickwood (Roscommon) - Posts: 2871 - 24/08/2009 23:21:33    402988

Rafa is still the man for the job. He is doing the job with his hands tied behind his back...having to sell before he buys. This has resulted in us having a weaker team this season than last. Do any of ye realise the transfer conditions out there....liverpool simply cannot compete and are pretty much totally reliant on their reputation on attracting players. Is it Rafas fault that stevie g looked like he didnt care last night, that his head wasnt in it? Is it Rafas fault that torres has begun to resemble didier drogba in constantly complaining to referees instead of knuckling down ala carragher and just getting on with it. I still think we havnt seen the best of torres at liverpool (a scary thought!) and he needs to work harder (especially on his touch in general play).
Liverpool are where they should be with the money they have spent.....top 4 contenders and unfortunately no more, as much and all as it pains me to say it.

mayonews (Mayo) - Posts: 254 - 25/08/2009 08:44:10    403119

Niamh
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402922 He can't do much with limited funds

He has spent plenty of money you'll find. More than most.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12452 - 25/08/2009 10:29:33    403201

PJ County: All Posts: 1331 402981 Jeezzzzzzzzzz, how many more threads are we going to see on this man, but seeing as we're here, Rafa blew it last year, he will never get a better chance of winning the premiership than last season, pool were 10 points clear at the top and he starts tinkering with the team, not to mention disaster he made of the whole Robby Keane issue which I think cost cost liverpool the title. He moans about not having money to spend and he sells back Keane to Spurs at a Loss at such. He says Keane was'nt good enough and look at the players he has now instead of him, Voronin, babel, engog, elzar, Keane would wipe the floor with these guys. Benitez is Bizzare to say the least. i know what ur trying ta say PJ but using Keane is a bad example,Keane was never gonna work out at Liverpool in their current formation because Gerrard will play behind Torres when fit and you cant have a signing of that price on the bench all the time it was just a bad move for both parties it happens in football sometimes.The fact is benitez doesnt have the money he needs the American owners took what profit Liverpool made last season and put it straight into the money they owe for buying the club the same has also happened with the left over money from Alonso's sale along with others players sales this summer but even if he did his tranfers are not always that good anway but thats not the point.People are over reacting its three games into the season United had a shaky start last season and went on to win the title im not saying Liverpool will go on to do that but they can only get better they have pretty much the same squad as last year and im sure once aqualani is ready to play instead of Lucas it will make a big difference because its Alonso's lose that is being felt not Benitezs tactis.

UptheDeise (Waterford) - Posts: 225 - 25/08/2009 10:31:09    403202

Breffni not the kind of consistent money needed...ie; multiple 30million pound players. thats what it takes to win the prem these days. But look its a fair point he has spent plenty and transfers are not his strong point...but his tactical nous in getting the best out of his players is without question.

mayonews (Mayo) - Posts: 254 - 25/08/2009 11:08:59    403232

Liverpool have already spent 40 million this summer. Thats more than anyone bar City. Benitez gets plenty of cash, he has just spent it poorly on a right-back, injury-prone midfielder and a lumbering galoot of a centre-half. They smack of desperation signings, which Liverpool didnt need to do. Johnson is a good full back alright, but too expensive and Aquilani, if fit, could be a superstar. You'd wonder why Roma were so quick to sell such a highly-rated homegrown talent.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12452 - 25/08/2009 11:49:02    403269

He has spent plenty of money you'll find. More than most.

I think you will find most of the money rafa spends is money recouped from the sale of players e.g Arbeloa and Alonso.This means Liverpool lack strength in depth while still not generating enough money for top class signings(30m+)

sundaygame (Fermanagh) - Posts: 8 - 25/08/2009 11:59:32    403285

2 mistakes made by Benitez this year

1-letting Alonso go and replacing him with an injury prone player (for 2/3 of the cash) who might join the team when it's too late to content the premiership!
2-Buying Glen Johnson for close to £20m-I think he is an outstanding player but most other sides (excluding Chelsea) never pay for right backs. (United have about 9 of them) Important position but probably the easiest to fill with someone from Reserves or at least with using half of that cash.

So it's not right to say he hasn't got the money,as when he does,he doesn't use it properly......

2 losses out of 3 already- Last season 2 losses out of 38. Liverpool can't afford to draw games this year is the message that Benitez will have to tell team.

Tipple30 (Tipperary) - Posts: 77 - 25/08/2009 12:22:30    403326

The pool are shocking lightweight up front, torres is the only decent striker at the club, and if you ever listen to ferguson he always says the secret to his success was always having 4 top notch strikers.

Scruffy2Donut (Cavan) - Posts: 1112 - 25/08/2009 12:46:26    403362

sorry.... but let me hear no one say benitez has limited funds.... compare the spending of united and pool since benitex took charge... i think its possibe then after this seasons spending by rafa that pool have overtaken united... so that fish is long dead in the water. benitez is a clown i said it before and got shot down, the man is far too negative and liverpool cant retain possession due to the poor quality of players there.... whom rafa purchased

brett favre (Sligo) - Posts: 659 - 25/08/2009 14:48:49    403579

Tipple30, an injury prone player? You clearly read the the old 30p rags then coming out with that. Aquilani has had a bad injury yes, but no different to anything Alan Shearer had or Roy Keane, in fact not even to that level. he isnt injury prone at, just happens to HAVE an injury. Please check facts before spouting off.

Secondly, the £20m spent on him as clearly said by the manager since is actually £15m and £10m on johnson, the other £7m was owed to Liverpool and written off, they would actually got around £2.3 m over the next 3 years, so its not as if this £7m was gonna arrive any time soon. In normal circumstances he would have recieved the £30m also from Alonso's sale but that has been used to pay off the banks so he has actually made a profit this summer.
In the same way, man United who are in much deeper debt and also under pressure to pay have taken around £50m of the ronaldo sale to service their debt, hence why fergie isnt splashin the cash either.

however i will say in regards to Benitez, you will win NOTHING with lucas in the team, hence the imminent (hopefully) arrival of Aquilani.

gottabetrue (Tyrone) - Posts: 300 - 25/08/2009 15:59:12    403661

I think he is a woeful manager. Look at alonso for instance. He was trying to offload him to juventus last year but the deal stalled over the deadline. Alonso went on to be their player of the year! When a manager writes a player off, and them able to turn in the types of performances alonso did last year, you have to wonder... Far too often he seems to be on some personal crusade to show that squad rotation can work, or zonal marking can work. Ultimately it costs the team. Think about it, why is it that no great team in history, or no great manager ever used, or use large-scale squad rotation?
His signings have been poor. Everyone knew about torres, reina, agger and masherano so he cant lay claim to unearthing them. He did however sign the likes of josemi, babel and voronin off his own bat. It took him a full year to realise finnan was a good player. In that time he signed josemi and kromkamp, both of which were not half the player finnan was.
harry redknapp is a far superior manager, as are david moyes, martin o'neill and roy hodgson. The longer liverpool hang onto him the more likely it is that utd will break their trophy record.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 25/08/2009 17:58:40    403843

another dissapointing result last night !!!!!

Augher (Tyrone) - Posts: 125 - 25/08/2009 20:02:11    403933

gottabetrue
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sorry for doing a dinphuy on u but "now u get ur facts right" aquilani is injury prone, hes has a stack and has some muscular problem as well. dont call some1 out when ur the one who is wrong

brett favre (Sligo) - Posts: 659 - 25/08/2009 20:23:19    403955

I dont support Liverpool, but to be perfectly honest, they will never win the league when Benetiz is in charge, he doesnt care about the league. Its Europe only for that man.

GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 25/08/2009 21:07:38    404002