London,they have been in 4 All-Ireland senior football Finals and 4 All-Ireland senior Hurling finals,but they lost all 4 football finals and won 1 huring final against Cork

Cavan1947 (Cavan) - Posts: 215 - 15/08/2009 23:25:33    393504

London...not bad at the hurling at all actually. 1 loss away from playing Christy Ring next year.
Reckon New York would take them at football tho.

The Real 1944 (Carlow) - Posts: 1114 - 16/08/2009 00:57:02    393531

I am so ambivilant right now as to who is better. Both belong to different times when emigration sent so many of our best players overseas. The GPA posting intercounty players CV's online has negated the need for NY/LN teams. If one looks at the use of Gaelic Park nowadays even the most fervant gael would readily admit that its best days were in the past.

caughtredhanded (Tyrone) - Posts: 602 - 16/08/2009 01:14:43    393538

at this moment they are both rubbish

10DLSAM (Derry) - Posts: 266 - 16/08/2009 08:29:52    393571

at half eight on a sunday morning, what would you expect

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 17/08/2009 19:50:09    394826

I am so ambivilant right now as to who is better. Both belong to different times when emigration sent so many of our best players overseas. The GPA posting intercounty players CV's online has negated the need for NY/LN teams. If one looks at the use of Gaelic Park nowadays even the most fervant gael would readily admit that its best days were in the past.

I live and work in the US. I didn't play intercounty football. Neither has 95% of footballers in London or New York or elsewhere.
Please tell me how the GPA's website has negated the need for the NY or LN GAA?

wingwonder (UK) - Posts: 535 - 17/08/2009 21:36:01    394913

Here's a subtopic: Who's better New York, London or Clare? London gets the vote for me

The_16th_Man (Clare) - Posts: 251 - 17/08/2009 22:09:31    394961

On a point of order, I would have to stress that cabbage is a lot tastier than brussel sprouts.

Thank you.

banner_boy (Clare) - Posts: 1285 - 17/08/2009 22:18:49    394984

17/08/2009 22:18:49
banner_boy
County: Clare
Posts: 865

394984 On a point of order, I would have to stress that cabbage is a lot tastier than brussel sprouts.

Thank you.

Now banner boy you really are not giving this debate the seriousness it deserves!! :D

Real Louth fan (Louth) - Posts: 3157 - 17/08/2009 23:30:54    395111

I say lets solve this debate. Reestablish the international series that had been played at Parnell Park (adding other venues if needed) during the week leading up to the All Ireland football final. This would spark a huge interest. County boards from Europe, North America and AustralAsia could enter sides to compete. If there are other locations with teams, add them as well. No shun intended, just not sure if you are out there. Financially it would be a huge undertaking, if so why not hold the tournament bi-annually if needed. I hope this competition does take place.

lostintime (USA) - Posts: 533 - 18/08/2009 13:33:45    395582

I think London would win but at the same point is very hard for teams like London/New York ever to get to a decent level. As soon as one of the players is performing well he gets a call from back home to play with hsi club/county and off they pop home to mammy. Fair play to them but until there is a huge amount of investment to get kids all over UK/USA playing will never get better. I know there is many clubs that promote GAA but an example is that my nephew played football from age of 8 until 10 and then all of a sudden the school stopped the training. Luckily he has a club nearby so he still gets some exposure to GAA but nothing like you would back in Eire.

ced1980 (Roscommon) - Posts: 62 - 18/08/2009 15:36:17    395799

Brussel Sprouts

Burnsey (Down) - Posts: 561 - 18/08/2009 17:56:13    396024

caughtredhanded I have a message for you. I have to laugh at your comments. The Irish economy both north and south is in dire straits at the moment and it'll take years and years for a proper recovery. Have you looked at some of the recent unemployment data or checked out how many highly qualified young graduates are signing on the dole? Unemployment is set to reach 15% by next year. Wages in the north are a joke in comparison to everywhere else in Ireland and the UK and that is assuming you are one of the lucky ones to actually get a job. Ireland is the second most expensive country in Europe and house prices are still very high in comparison to the average wage. There is only one inevitable consequence from all of this. Young people are going to emigrate as they did before. In the words of the Wolfe Tones "Our best asset is our best export too". Mark my words GAA in London will get stronger as a result of this. New York GAA may also improve but it'll be difficult because its so difficult to get in there these days. Many young Irish now head to Australia so it could soon become a new GAA stonghold if they're not recruited to play Aussie rules. caughtredhanded County: Tyrone Posts: 127 393538 I am so ambivilant right now as to who is better. Both belong to different times when emigration sent so many of our best players overseas. The GPA posting intercounty players CV's online has negated the need for NY/LN teams. If one looks at the use of Gaelic Park nowadays even the most fervant gael would readily admit that its best days were in the past.

kevinbrady (Armagh) - Posts: 9 - 18/08/2009 19:50:52    396120

In fairness what have New York ever done. London hurlers in 2 finals this year, i'll admit the footballers are crap but the hurlers were a puck of a ball from winning the Nicky Rackard and won the league.

ANYCAC, Derry struggled to beat London by a point in the Ulster championship this year, and ye got 2 very soft goals so what does that make ye if London are rubbish?

Buster66 (UK) - Posts: 119 - 20/08/2009 13:19:58    398135

both on a par with louth i would reckon,

millhouse (Meath) - Posts: 892 - 20/08/2009 14:12:12    398197

Kevin Brady, thank you for the repost however it is obvious that the current employment situation in both the North and South of Ireland does not bear any resemblance to that of the late 19th century to late 20th century. We are now in a different world where Ireland is not governed like a third world country in a pathetic attempt at self sufficiency. People nowadays are better educated and more entreprenurial. Gone are the days when a 16 year old was packed off to his uncle in NY because there wasn't enough work on the 20 acres for him. Quotes from the Wolfe Tones show just how detached from reality you are.

caughtredhanded (Tyrone) - Posts: 602 - 20/08/2009 14:22:14    398206

wingwonder
County: UK
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I live and work in the US. I didn't play intercounty football. Neither has 95% of footballers in London or New York or elsewhere.
Please tell me how the GPA's website has negated the need for the NY or LN GAA?

Wingwonder, I am not denying the right of exiled gaels like yourself to play gaelic games. My point is, do we need the likes of NY/LN in the All Ireland? Intercounty standard players are given advantages in todays workplace. Have NY/LN the quality of individual playing for them to justify putting them up against a seasoned intercounty player? What is there to gain from the ritual beatings at the hands of "weak" counties? You did not paste the last part of my post, is Gaelic park in NY a mere shadow of its former self, times have changed, the world has changed.

caughtredhanded (Tyrone) - Posts: 602 - 20/08/2009 14:28:08    398218