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Pace and complacency will beat Tyrone?

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Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
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352803 derfil1

3 all irelands in 6 years and you say tyrone are overated not great comments.

What happened the previous years Tyrone have been playing....do they not count? GAA didn't start 6 years ago y'know...maybe it did for Tyrone but not for the rest of us!

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 20/07/2009 12:07:37    352849

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Nothin againt Tyrone lads. They're the team of the decade and play with a great system and I for one enjoy the way they play. What I was saying is its the system and not the individual that makes them what they are. Just feel this year Dublin and Kildare would have the gameplan to bring them down. Gilroy seems to be very astute and McGeeney would know enough about Tyrone to have Kildare play a winning game.

derfil1 (Kildare) - Posts: 1612 - 20/07/2009 12:13:45    352858

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I think with Mayo and Galway having met eachother, all contenders (favourites and the pack) have now played at least one game against which to measure their prospects. From what I've seen, Tyrone look to be in the best health - they've come through all matches with no great stress, taking good scores and making it look easy (like Kilkenny do in hurling). That being said, even though they're virtually alone now in being able to give Kerry a dose of pre-match yips, they don't have the same pyschological effect on many other sides (maybe the Dubs after last year?). So if they meet Cork, Galway, Mayo, or a fully rehabilitated Dubs, they'll have to find one of their higher gears, and that's sometimes not easy to just turn on (they might find themselves suffering from the same malaise that has afflicted the Dubs during the previous 4 years, where they found themselves off the pace once outside of their own province). I don't agree that whoever beats Tyrone will win the A-I, unless that team beats them in the final itself. I don't think Antrim will beat Kerry, in spite of their problems (the draw has given the Kingdom every chance this year), and I expect Kildare, Limerick (if they can keep the hurlers on board) and Galway to make up the remainder of the last 8, so there won't be any 'easy' Q-F... Bear in mind that the Q-F draw won't be completely unrestricted - Mayo can't meet Galway, Cork can't meet Limerick, and the Dubs can't meet Kildare (since these were all provincial final pairings), so only the Kingdom would be completely open to meet any of the provincial winners. There's still a long way to go in deciding which path Sam takes home this year, and I expect to see a few twists and turns in it...

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 20/07/2009 12:40:51    352948

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McGeeney didnt have much luck outsmarting Tyrone as a player when in mattered in 2003 final or 2005 semi final. His managerial record will be similar if Kildare draw Tyrone.

Flanders (Galway) - Posts: 604 - 20/07/2009 12:42:01    352951

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derfil while optimism is useful as a supporter can i suggest that dublin and kildare the pick of them couldnt beat tyrone. neither one of them have a defensive player that would make tyrones bench. both full back lines havent a clue. tyrone will man mark the two brogans and forget about the rest as the other 13 wouldnt get on the tyrone team, as for kildare their big hard workin much like armagh but lack class in a number of areas especially up front. the only team that can beat tyrone is kerry and with a handy draw against mayo or dublin next time out they will be in the final once again for part 4 this time its personal as them and the southern media need to get tyrone finally out of the way. 6 years ago it was the big 3 which has become now the big two and after this year will be the big one and it aint going to be kerry.

reddoctor (Tyrone) - Posts: 1241 - 20/07/2009 13:01:31    353016

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It's wonderful what an over-abundance of punditry has done to the layman. We're talking about a team not coping if they have to face another team that runs at them. I've yet to see a game where both teams have not run against each other. People talking about it as if it's a tactic that hasn't been tried before. Arrggh, they're running at us! Bring back the days when people said we couldn't cope with a high ball. We could cope with the not coping of that better than the not coping of running.

milo (Tyrone) - Posts: 238 - 20/07/2009 13:27:34    353087

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reddoctor
County: Tyrone
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Such paranoia!

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 20/07/2009 13:41:53    353129

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are you referring to your second last post jack on this thread or about my post

reddoctor (Tyrone) - Posts: 1241 - 20/07/2009 14:00:26    353164

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reddoctor
County: Tyrone
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this time its personal as them and the southern media need to get tyrone finally out of the way.

This is what I was referring to.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 20/07/2009 14:04:53    353182

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patrique
County: Antrim
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.......Tyrone remember have only made THREE semis in the decade.


Compared to Antrim's how many?.......

decks013 (Tyrone) - Posts: 87 - 20/07/2009 14:58:49    353326

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Jackeen
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352849 Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
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352803 derfil1

3 all irelands in 6 years and you say tyrone are overated not great comments.

What happened the previous years Tyrone have been playing....do they not count? GAA didn't start 6 years ago y'know...maybe it did for Tyrone but not for the rest of us!


What a daft post. How can the present team be overrated because teams from previous eras didn't win all-Irelands?

MB1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 360 - 20/07/2009 15:29:30    353402

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I think we should all be privileged to see such a great team at the peak of it's powers in action this year.

Tyrone - Do Ulster Proud lads!!

corrinshego (Armagh) - Posts: 305 - 20/07/2009 15:43:16    353424

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This a great Tyrone team and they are only cantering at the moment. Cant really see any team beating them.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 20/07/2009 15:46:21    353431

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Come on Dublin, Kildare, Wicklow and Meath - do Leinster proud!

Dubinmeath (Dublin) - Posts: 1123 - 20/07/2009 15:47:55    353436

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decks013
County: Tyrone
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patrique
County: Antrim
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.......Tyrone remember have only made THREE semis in the decade.


Compared to Antrim's how many?.......



Rise up off your knees. Tyrone can hold their heads high, no need to have a complete inferiority complex any more.

Maybe in the 1930s but not now. So read bout how much Tyrone have won recently, and it will enable you to overcome the complex.

The above may sound complicated, but how else can anyone explain someone comparing Tyrone this decade to ..........Antrim?

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 20/07/2009 15:52:45    353448

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All hail Wicklow. Pride of Leinster. Single handedly ridding the All-Ireland of Ulster teams.

derfil1 (Kildare) - Posts: 1612 - 20/07/2009 16:02:30    353475

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yeah top quality teams such as fermanagh, cavan and down. great

corrinshego (Armagh) - Posts: 305 - 20/07/2009 16:07:32    353493

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its tyrones to lose they may get a little fright but i can not see them been beaten i think they are just at their peak of their powers in terms of age and football ability wise it will take a special team to beat them and i can not see one out there they could easily win three in a row

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 20/07/2009 16:14:11    353515

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to be honest derfil, wicklow played 3 bad ulster teams. and im not taking anything away from them, i'll definately be supporting them and antrim for the rest of the championship.

gaelic_life (Down) - Posts: 286 - 20/07/2009 16:31:18    353577

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MB1
County: Tyrone
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353402 Jackeen
County: Dublin
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352849 Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
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352803 derfil1

3 all irelands in 6 years and you say tyrone are overated not great comments.

What happened the previous years Tyrone have been playing....do they not count? GAA didn't start 6 years ago y'know...maybe it did for Tyrone but not for the rest of us!


What a daft post. How can the present team be overrated because teams from previous eras didn't win all-Irelands?

I never said Tyrone were overrated. It was another poster. Check the posts! I am saying that it is Tyrone who bring up the fact that they have won 3 All Irelands in the past 6 years with no mention of their form for the previous years before they had any success. I agree with you about bringing up eras gone by being ridiculous because it's the here and now that count.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 20/07/2009 16:33:20    353587

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