i agree wit pwalsh67!!shefflin hass all the lads to help whereas canning has to do it on his own!!

lowerormond (Tipperary) - Posts: 1267 - 21/07/2009 22:53:57    356130

Loyal2TheRoyal County: Meath Posts: 2331 356073 Well said CodyisGod. For me Canning can be put in the same bracket as Aisake O'Hailpin or Michael Webster with the added addition that he is a dead ball specalist who never misses a free from inside 80 yards. The Galway supporters think he is their saviour and such a weight of expectation on his shoulders isn't really fair either. Ah cum on now loyal, you're jst a bit bitter the way sooo many people are against yeh and you've still yet to admit that Joe is great hurler... Lik what's your problem, jealousy?

throw_it_over (Galway) - Posts: 769 - 21/07/2009 23:39:30    356197

Truely magnificent hurler. Serious hurling brain, vision and turn of speed. The real deal without any doubt

Looking forward to seeing the man play for many years to come

Passer_By (Carlow) - Posts: 537 - 22/07/2009 00:01:03    356240

CodyisGod:

you say Joe Canning is media hype?!? Ok but why HIM? Why not Mullane or someone else? WHY Joe Canning? WHY did Sean Og single him out before the Galway-Cork match?

pwalsh67 (Galway) - Posts: 100 - 22/07/2009 00:16:57    356273

One more thing: you can't measure what Cannings value to Galway is by just sitting there reading the paper the next day to see what he scored. He CREATES scores for others due to his greatness. Some things can't be found in a newspaper. He does a LOT more than just score.

pwalsh67 (Galway) - Posts: 100 - 22/07/2009 00:19:59    356281

was the heading an argument or a staement?? way overated.. didnt do a lot in u21 final last year, or this year.. let the lad hurl and see how he goes..

old yellar (None) - Posts: 2631 - 22/07/2009 00:59:35    356334

wat does the lad do besides hit a free???? plenty of skill and ability but all he does thesedays is fancy stuff

Southern_emmet (Limerick) - Posts: 34 - 22/07/2009 02:23:05    356363

r u serious?

maybe a hint of jelously coming into the thread?its not as if in the all ireland club final this that CANNING ran the show and not shefflin...its not as if he 2-12 v cork last year?its not as if scored 10 points against them last week-end.ohhh and also its not as if u see people like rte sunday game panel praising him as the best player in the country week in week out....

this thread is disgraceful to say the least...OVERRATED?U CANNOT BE SERIOUS..

NaomhAnna09 (Galway) - Posts: 139 - 22/07/2009 08:45:02    356404

He is under rated! Easy to be a great player (Shelflin, Brennan etc) when you have great players around you capable of providing you with reasonable support play and timely passes. This lad has to do it all on his own alot of the time. As for not contributing from play - he is man marked the whole time. Like other posters have siad the reason for this is that he is the biggest threat to any defence. It this was Kilkenny they can't afford to man mark one man because there are 5 others capable of running havoc. If Canning was on the Kilkenny team he would out shine every other player. Over - rated? Are you serious? Is there any team in the country that wouldn't take him? Hurlings greatest prospect at the moment, if only he was a Limerick man!

Mick14 (Limerick) - Posts: 766 - 22/07/2009 10:13:54    356490

I am sorry Loyal i have to disagree with you. Having been lucky enough to see Joe play in the flesh some 10 times or so, i can honestly say there is at least 1 piece of genius he has produced in every single game. I remember in particular u-21 sf in 2006 against kk joe started the game on the bench, was brought on after about 15 mins and on his own immeaditely brought galway into the game as a 17 year old. Neither Donnacha Cody or John Dalton could handle him. Correct me if im wrong wasnt it joe who picked up the ball on his own 21 in Ennis and delivered a 100 yard clearence leadin to a Niall Healy goal? Wasnt it Joe who chased Cadogan half the length of the pitch last sat. got the ball off him took a huge hit still had the presece of mind to pass it to a team mate. Both plays took place in injury time with both games won. I could go on...! The point i am making is Joe is much more then a finisher. I will be in Thurles on Sunday to see Joe again as a neutrul, as he is real gem worth the entrance fee alone.

Jgc81 (Meath) - Posts: 195 - 22/07/2009 10:18:49    356497

For me Joe cannot be put in a bracket with anyone else because there is no-one near him at his age, in his position. Maybe against Cork & against Clare he didnt score enough from play but he did alot more that he wouldnt have done last year. He's improving all the time, he knows his weaknesses and he will improve on them and like any youngster he is not playing at his best yet. Give him time let him prove the doubters wrong.

tribes4liam09 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 22/07/2009 10:31:10    356521

joe in the best player in the country even at such a young age.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 22/07/2009 10:41:51    356530

Nobody is denying that Joe can go on to be a great, but it's absolutely undeniable that he has not done enough at Inter County level so far to justify the media frenzy surrounding him. He's excellent from placed balls but from play he's been average at best in the 7 games I've pointed out. And don't give me this bull about working hard, no top inter county player shy's away from hard work, it's a minimum requirement. Joe is living on a reputation that he does not deserve on his performances so far. For instance, Noel McGrath from Tipp has been superb in every game this year, is a year younger than Joe, yet nobody's mentioning him in terms of being the best player in the country. Why not? Because he doesn't take frees? His performances so far this year, in every game, have been far more impressive than JC. Here is truly a player who is delivering on his promise. Apart from frees, the same cannot be said for Joe. That's a fact.

Joe scored 0-1 against Kilkenny in the U-21 semi final last year, he scored 0-1 from Clare, nothing against Cork, and after his goal against Kilkenny, never had another strike on or off target in the entire match. He scored a total of 1-3 in THREE league games this year. Now they are the scoring stats of, at best, an average inter county hurler. Yet Joe is being deified here for things he's due to achieve as opposed to what he's actually done. Great from placed balls, average from play.

As a hurling follower and a genuine admirer of excellent forward play I'll be the first to get excited when Joe starts to perfrom like we're told he will, but until then, the jury is still very much out. A bit of perspective wouldn't go astray for some people here.

CodyisGod (Kilkenny) - Posts: 20 - 22/07/2009 11:10:19    356570

I think the "no look" pass to Hayes for the first goal in last years Club Final sums him up. A great player and a great team player.

The Face (Monaghan) - Posts: 890 - 22/07/2009 11:12:41    356573

He is the best young hurler in the country by a mile, and the best young talent to come along for many years. So let's leave it at that. Overrated / underrated is all subjective.

And people dismissing his contribution from play are missing two important things. Firstly, his contribution from play is about more than just finishing. Secondly, his freetaking is phenomenal, he will score frees that probably no other player in the country would get, that most players wouldn't even attempt, not to mention a sideline or two aswell. Those extra points can be the difference between winning and losing a game. And personally I've never seen a player with such a record of consistency from placed balls, he never misses. His conversion rate must be 95% plus. Even if he did little or nothing in general play you'd have to have him in the team for that alone.

aidangalway (Galway) - Posts: 648 - 22/07/2009 11:19:46    356583

its a bit unfair to compare him to shefflin,hes only in his 2 nd year at inter county level,and shefflin has better players around him,but he is excellent from placed balls and sideline cuts,he would walk onto any other inter county team,galway need him hurling needs him too.best of luck to him!!!

arabrebel (Cork) - Posts: 42 - 22/07/2009 11:33:33    356604

FACT: just the FACT that people are comparing Joe Canning to Shefflin or DJ makes the point FOR me. Canning is a special player. Case closed.

pwalsh67 (Galway) - Posts: 100 - 22/07/2009 12:34:37    356705

No.... one of best hurlers i've seen...pure skill

yearofthelily (Kildare) - Posts: 279 - 22/07/2009 12:37:54    356708

Ya he is overrated by a mile! Shouldn't be playing intercounty hurling, would be more suited to Junior C hurling in Galway!! Go back to sleep all of you Hurlers On Ditches if you think he is over-rated. You know nothing about hurling if you think that.

TribalCharlie (Galway) - Posts: 151 - 22/07/2009 12:52:47    356731

Dont forget he turned it on against Ballyhale Shamrocks a little earlier this year too. There was definitley a couple of goals and points from play that day. Think he put a sideline cut clean over the bar as well. Lads on here quoting all sorts of mickey mouse club matches and statistics. That was one day to shine and he stood up no bother

Time has already told how good he is. To the doubters - keep watching or go to specsavers

Passer_By (Carlow) - Posts: 537 - 22/07/2009 13:51:07    356836