i think monaghan will pip it this time,i think they are a better team than derry all round.the one trick horse is now gone for derry whatever will they do?i think there will be more football played on sat eve,well heres hoping anyway!
on the last match i thought derry brought the dirty aspect to the match but that said monaghan aren't the kind of team to walk away from it.

DL (Donegal) - Posts: 210 - 06/07/2009 23:59:09    335079

Why don't all you lot that cant appreciate good hard football go and watch dancing on ice it would be more suited to you rather than coming on here slagging Ulster teams. It makes me sick when you have guys from Dublin, Mayo, Galway Wexford, Westmeath coming on here giving it the big i am when you have won nothing compered to the Ulster teams in the last 30 years. You never here people from the likes of Kerry, Cork, Meath, or any Ulster team complaining about hard football as the old saying goes if you dish it out expect it in return and don't go bleating about it. You play to your strengths and if that means crossing the line so be it and don't tell me any one of you if your being honest wouldn't do the same if it meant winning the All Ireland Final. History just tell us who wins not the also rans. So its time to put your these feelings to one side and let the men play a mans game just as we have done for the last 125 years.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 07/07/2009 01:28:39    335141

hope your right dl. If Paddy Bradley has pulled the pin on Derry it does even the thing up a bit. Its very unfair that Tommy Freeman has to sit out while both Derry players are back for this one. I think it will be a very tight affair with one score in it either way. Derry certainly havnt become a bad side overnight and are capable of beating anyone on their day.

midmongael (Monaghan) - Posts: 1 - 07/07/2009 09:01:09    335192

Pearsbro,

If you look at what we said about ourselves after the match you would say that at least we were honest and called ourselves muck. EVenthough the figures you used are incorrect. We scored 8 points in the second half at least half from play while Cork scored 1-08, mostly from play also. At least there was some excitement and we got to watch a good Cork team play.

What happened in your game was nothing short of drudgery. The fact is that Armagh didnt score from play in the last 70 minutes!!! Monaghan scored just 3 points from play in the last 55 minutes. That is a damning indictment and is what I would call the same muck no matter what way you look at it. Maybe ye should start to be a bit more honest with yourselves and accept that a spade is a spade and if something honks like a pig then it is a pig.

thykingdomcome (Kerry) - Posts: 1206 - 07/07/2009 09:18:44    335210

Mulligan Eamonn - for pubs showing the matches on the wrong side of the river there's Ganley's in Morden across the road from the tube station or Jack Beard's on Morden Road in Tooting Broadway is another, turn right out of the tube station and it's under 5 mins walk

MiddleEastExile (UK) - Posts: 26 - 07/07/2009 09:19:15    335212

Some people form other counties seem to be wondering why both sets of fans for getting excitied about our team and a champioship match. Well excuse us, you're right, neither team will probably win Sam so what does it matter, i'll forget about it now.

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 07/07/2009 09:36:23    335222

Mulligan Eamonn
County: All
Posts: 75

I think you'll find Dublin have a couple All-ireland titles under their belts from the last 30 years...not to mention Leinster titles! I love Ulster football by the way so be careful with your generalisations

MyUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 227 - 07/07/2009 09:48:56    335230

Eamon Mulligan, there is nothing manly about some of the stuff that goes on. Oh and by the way, neither of the teams being discussed have come any closer than Dublin, Mayo, Galway, Westmeath to winning AI in recent past and won't either. To claim that either represents 'Ulster' football is, and I am no great fan of either I can tell you!, an insult to Tyrone and Armagh.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 07/07/2009 09:57:25    335240

Think discipline will play a huge factor in this game. Ref will be only to well aware of what happended in last game and will come down hard on both teams from the start.

MN. (Monaghan) - Posts: 32 - 07/07/2009 10:22:24    335257

Mulligan Eamonn County: All Posts: 75 335141 Why don't all you lot that cant appreciate good hard football go and watch dancing on ice it would be more suited to you rather than coming on here slagging Ulster teams. It makes me sick when you have guys from Dublin, Mayo, Galway Wexford, Westmeath coming on here giving it the big i am when you have won nothing compered to the Ulster teams in the last 30 years. You never here people from the likes of Kerry, Cork, Meath, or any Ulster team complaining about hard football as the old saying goes if you dish it out expect it in return and don't go bleating about it. You play to your strengths and if that means crossing the line so be it and don't tell me any one of you if your being honest wouldn't do the same if it meant winning the All Ireland Final. History just tell us who wins not the also rans. So its time to put your these feelings to one side and let the men play a mans game just as we have done for the last 125 years. The most laughable post full of nonsense that i have ever seen. Dublin are the second most succesful team in Gaelic football after Kerry in the history of this organisation. Galway have won 2 all irelands in the last 11 years. Whats your point. Why cant you face facts besides having cheap shots at other Counties?

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 07/07/2009 10:42:13    335273

Thy Kingdom Come:

I checked my facts before I posted that to make the point. Kerry scored ONE es ONE point from play from the 41st minute to the 72nd minute. Awful stuff.

Yes the match on Saturday night was not full of open expansive football and I would've been shocked if it had. Next Saturday afternoon's game won't be any different I'd venture. However, if we were playing Longford, Roscommon, Clare, Westmeath, Laois etc etc I'd venture that it would !

In the last couple of years Monaghan have put up very big scores against teams like Roscommon, Laois etc etc so it depends on the proximity to and knowlege of the opposition.

So you not think that Monaghan wouldn't just play nice easy balls to the full forward line and pop balls over the bar (and Armagh too ?). They can't because they are bing very tightly marked from the halfway line in.

Once again to use the Kerry example, my most abiding memories of the '05 and '08 All Ireland finals are of Kerry handpassing the ball back and forward just inside the Tyrone half because they couldn't make any progress.

So it comes down to a lot of factors how you play. Monaghan have now become known as a team to watch out for so opponents (especially those who know them best i.e. in Ulster) will try to schackle their best players.

To suggest that you can then naievely hit long balls in or attempt 50 yard kicks art goal is naieve in the extreme.

Keep watching your videos of football in the '70s. And watch them closely by the way, cause most of the football then wasn't too pretty with the Bomber et all being the leading exponents of handpassing the ball into the net !

PearseBro (Monaghan) - Posts: 459 - 07/07/2009 11:29:09    335336

Mulligan Eammon. What the hell are you talking about? Since when did Derry and Monaghan become the only representatives of Ulster football? Good hard football, as practised by the likes of Meath, Kerry, Tyrone and many other counties but inside and outside of Ulster is great to watch but the boring, negative, foul ridden stuff produced by Monaghan and Derry is just tedious. You talk as if Ulster counties demolish all before them yet how many counties from Ulster outside of Tyrone have won the All-Ireland in the last decade? Or even reached the final for that matter? One is not a lot really. What is it all this hard football really achieves? When it comes to All Irelands not a lot. In fact the teams that win every year are those which play football. Take your head from the sand. A lot of Ulster football fans have a chip on their shoulders when it comes to criticism of any Ulster team. Derry and Monaghan get criticised because of their football and behaviour not because they´re from Ulster. Antrim, Donegal, Cavan, Tyrone and the others should not be included with the previos two as they concentrate of football first and foremost. I hope it makes you feel good that you produce all these "manly" teams. Success would feel even better though. Which team knocked out Armagh and Down last year by the way?

wackallen (Wexford) - Posts: 53 - 07/07/2009 12:00:42    335385

Bring it onn!

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 07/07/2009 12:35:55    335450

It has just been brought

Farneyarmy1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 89 - 07/07/2009 13:30:25    335550

re wackallen,
In the last 18 years 5 different Ulster teams have won the All Ireland. Munster 1 team=Kerry (6) Leinster 2 teams= Dublin (95), Meath (96,99). Connacht 1 team Galway (98, 01)

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 07/07/2009 13:45:59    335581

re hurlingdub,
Why don't you and that nice chap from Mayo read my thread again and be honest with yourselves and admit that you would cross the line if it meant winning the title. I don't think you are a proper dub because any dub worth his salt would do the same as me and have done just look at your past history.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 07/07/2009 14:01:09    335608

mulligan Eammon God Almighty can you grow up. Keep on going back and you´ll see Ulster teams don´t have a great record, in fact Wexford can match any of them. Does that make us a great power of football now? I don´t think so. If all those teams in Ulster are so strong why don´t they win the All-Ireland more often. Why have Donegal and Derry got one apiece? They haven´t even challenged Tyrone or Armagh this last decade. My gripe is not with Ulster teams. I think Tyrone are great, as were Down in the 90´s and Armagh, to a lesser extent, earlier in this decade. I was delighted to see Donegal and Derry win their All-Irelands and would have loved Monaghan get one in the 80´s. But the current Monaghan and Derry teams are awful, they represent everything wrong with football and not because they´re from Ulster, just because their attitude of win at all costs and to hell with the football, stinks. Can you really disagree with any of this. I think you´re angry not because of anything I said but because I said anything. We´re all entitled to our opinion of these teams no matter where we come from.

wackallen (Wexford) - Posts: 53 - 07/07/2009 14:32:11    335666

re paddyagall,
At this stage i cant be bothered at what you say because you would argue that black was white what you need to do is take my thread into a school and get one of little kids to read it again to you and explain the contents to you because your always on about puke Ulster football. Anybody that mentions Ulster in any shape or form you seem to jump on the waggon so don't worry yourself your more to be pitted for than laughed at. Your just like the crickets that used to be behind the fire in my Grandmothers house long ago just a consistent squeak but after awhile nobody passed any remarks on them.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 07/07/2009 14:35:12    335672

re wackallen,
i can only talk about what i have seen with my own two eyes i though you would understand that.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 07/07/2009 14:45:31    335691

Mulligan Eammon
Wht doe your last post even mean? Can´t you make any sense?

wackallen (Wexford) - Posts: 53 - 07/07/2009 14:52:30    335703