sean og is right, Brolly might harp on about Tyrone at times but only because his own beloved Derry have flattered to deceive for so long that he has to cling on to something!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 01/07/2009 20:14:19    329189

Read the below elsewhere, makes some valid points about Brolly's article! some valid points, some absolute nonsense. as usual he really holds back from criticising any ulster team (according to the article, he still considersa monaghan to be a solid outfit, despite looking ordinary versus cork and derry) and takes the oppurtunity to dig the knife into kerry. his logic process is fascinating though: quinn does brilliantly on Eoin Bradley because he's a brilliant defender, never because E. Bradley is limited! whereas T. Walsh has a bad game when unfit and he's limited- sure he's not perfect but the logic is amazing. in my opinion brolly has a capacity to write his own version of history and is obviously enjoying tyrone's current reign as All-Ireland champions as it supports his argument of ulster (apparently the province can take credit for one county's achievement??) superiority. i think it was only last week on the Sunday Game he stated, after a tyrone rant, that their tactical revolution was the reason for thier dominance over............... wait for it...................... the last 5 years! he credits them for the ones they didn't win as well! the media has a tendency towards this anyway. when kerry went back-to-back, they were asking who can stop their dominance, now they're asking can anyone stop the tyrone machine. next year? maybe cork, or whoever, will be set to dominate, in their eyes, for generations to come- or maybe they'll dye the O'Neills red to worship their achievement! brolly has the red hand tinted glasses on with some time now, maybe our boys will pin it to a dressing room wall, but as a pundit- his bias is tiresome and if it hasn't yet gotten old, it will pretty quickly.

3inarow08 (Kerry) - Posts: 2455 - 02/07/2009 12:02:25    329731

liam

of course hes gona hype up tyrone, they are current allireland champions. do you want him to hype up dublin or what? he could say ' i love the way dublin get through leinster with such ease and class, then in the quarters/semi's when they meet a half decent team absolutley crumble and fall apart every year without fail' he says these things about tyrone because what they do seems to work..simple!!

sam09 (Tyrone) - Posts: 339 - 02/07/2009 12:24:28    329755

Nevermind Brolly lads! At least he knows the game. What in the name of the GAA was David Brady doing on the panel on TV3 last weekend. Fair play to Canavan putting him in his place a few times. Coming from a Dub, I have enormous respect for Canavan. He's able to call it like it is without slating any one county and equally he doesn't big up Tyrone unduly.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 02/07/2009 12:40:53    329781

They don't work all the time for Tyrone or otherwise they would be champions back to back. Teams can have cycles of greatness and then they are gone

Is Brolly objective? not always. Is he bias? slightly. Is his knowledge of GAA football deep -doesn't seem to be-fairly limited to this decade with no great evidence of understanding that the evolution of the game is not down to one team only.

kerrykerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1779 - 02/07/2009 12:46:46    329786

I don't think Brolly is anti-Kerry, its just that Kerry have been second best to Tyrone this decade and as the most successful team Tyrone are the point of reference.

This of course Alien to Kerry people who are and always will be the most successful county of all time. It would be good in some respects for the sport if Dublin or Cork could change the role of honour, but hopefully Tyrone will not allow that to happen for this year at least.

Joe is a Derryman and the Tyrone/Derry rivalry is too strong for a love in. In Gaelic Life last week Brolly was quite scathing of a number of Tyrone players performances. And when we look back to last year and Tyrone were being written off - it was O Rourke rather than Brolly who suggested that it would'nt be a major shock if Tyrone were to get to an All-Ireland final.

John Boss (Tyrone) - Posts: 865 - 02/07/2009 13:41:02    329842

i didnt contradict myself, he is contra to what kerry are trying to play

brett favre (Sligo) - Posts: 659 - 02/07/2009 14:42:30    329904

John Boss
County: Tyrone
Posts: 370

its just that Kerry have been second best to Tyrone this decade and as the most successful team Tyrone are the point of reference.
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Kerry have been second best this decade alright, but only in head-to-heads with Tyrone. We are also second best to Cork this decade in head-to-heads.

You say Tyrone are the most successful team? How do you measure success? I measure it by the number of All Irelands a team has won. In which case Tyrone are second best this decade.

3inarow08 (Kerry) - Posts: 2455 - 02/07/2009 14:44:16    329905

Brolly is becoming nauseating to listen to. As Liam and others have said if you're not from the north he's not interested. And he is obsessed with this Tyrone team. On Sunday Galway and Sligo were playing yet Joe still managed to reference Tyrone and Mickey Harte at least 5 or 6 times. Now Don't get me wrong I admire this Tyrone team and what they've done but to listen to JB you'd think football was only invented a few years ago. It's a problem with a few of the northern pundits though, not just Brolly. Martin McHugh is also incapable of talking or writing about anything that isn't Ulster-related. But Brolly really takes it to another level.

aidangalway (Galway) - Posts: 648 - 02/07/2009 14:47:57    329912

I'd say it's because for the last 3-4 years Kerry have been very hard to like.

If it wasn't for Gooch, Declan O'Sullivan, Killian Young, Donaghy and Tadgh Kennelly (this year obv) they'd probably be my least favourite team in the recent past. Too many of their players are either over-rated, a bit past it (albeit legends) or just dislikable.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12483 - 02/07/2009 14:51:22    329916

3inarow08
County: Kerry
Posts: 1553

329905 Kerry are the team of the decade by a long shot.3inarow it must make you laugh when you see the red hand trying to lay claim to your throne.This is tyrone most successful decade ever,oh hang on its there only one.Dont worry about tyrone this year we'll make sure they get nothing

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 02/07/2009 15:19:12    329956

Here Here Breffni. It is about time this super-Kerry myth was put to bed.Now there is a man who does not call a spade an agricultural implement.We need more of your ilk.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 02/07/2009 15:38:36    330001

Real Kerry Fan
County: All
Posts: 1164

330001 Here Here Breffni. It is about time this super-Kerry myth was put to bed.Now there is a man who does not call a spade an agricultural implement.We need more of your ilk.

I bet you know only too well which players fit into the 3 categories in my post RKF ;)

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12483 - 02/07/2009 15:48:40    330018

Brolly is merely praising a great time and gives them more because they are from the north. However if people are saying he is in love with them then they would do well to remember the day he took more time than usual blowing kisses at Tyrone fans in 97 in the height of the bitter Derry-Tyrone rivalry of the 90s.

ChungLad (Longford) - Posts: 351 - 02/07/2009 16:31:09    330077

Wouldn't worry 1 bit about what Brolly has to say no more than I'd worry one bit about what spillane has to say. I haven't heard him say 1 good thing about any team this year with the exception of Cork and Particularly Anthony Lynch. And the same would go for Spillane. They are not that far wrong on that front. Listen to him on Drive time and he likes to creat a bit of a stir. What Joe should realise that his view is not gospel. I have heard him totally slating Monaghan, which I have done myself. His recent comments about Tyrone playing an unenjoyable and impossible to counteract series of defensive drills during the course of every game demonstrate his randoim attacks to earn larger punditry credentials. People are right to knock us after our game against Cork but I would put it down to a Jaded team that in the last 7 years has either won the all Irlenad or lost to eventual winners. Something that no other county can surpass. They must surely find it hard to maintain this level and will naturally have to concentrate on peaking at the necessary times. Hopefully that will be in 3rd Sunday of September this year. Even taking our lack of fitness, interest and direction, Cork were fantastic. As for Tommy Walsh, Joe himself never set the world on fire and had been inconspicous at Tommy Walshes age. If Joe was half as good at 20 we would all be hearing about it for the rest of our lives. Tommy will be expected down here to exceed Joe's roll of Honour in the All Star and ALL Ireland medal front with a few years to spare. Whether that happens or not it is an expectation. Joe did have a couple of good seasons but by no means would have been known for his brilliance or trickery. It was more his fantastic score celbrations that set the world alight. If he thinks we have underestimated the Psycholgical damage done by a few losses then he has also underestimated the set up down here and underestimated teh competition and interest in our own leagues which far outweighs any interest we have in any other county team bar our own. Joe is welcome to come down and check out our Div 5 standard of club football.

thykingdomcome (Kerry) - Posts: 1206 - 02/07/2009 18:08:52    330223

to be fair kerrys all ireland win in 2000 was with a completly different team so its fair to say tyrone and kerry are equal in all ireland wins in recent years

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 02/07/2009 19:14:55    330285

Brolly makes some good points in that article. Instead of getting all emotional towards brolly, maybe you should watch the cork kerry replay on video and then read it again...

Redfoot (Cork) - Posts: 388 - 02/07/2009 20:12:36    330350

Redfoot. Who you responding to?

thykingdomcome (Kerry) - Posts: 1206 - 02/07/2009 20:37:22    330374

3inarow08
County: Kerry
Posts: 1554

329905 John Boss
County: Tyrone
Posts: 370

its just that Kerry have been second best to Tyrone this decade and as the most successful team Tyrone are the point of reference.
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Kerry have been second best this decade alright, but only in head-to-heads with Tyrone. We are also second best to Cork this decade in head-to-heads.

You say Tyrone are the most successful team? How do you measure success? I measure it by the number of All Irelands a team has won. In which case Tyrone are second best this decade.

Ah please lets not descend into the team of the decade nonsense yet again, please!!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 02/07/2009 21:41:20    330436

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 120

330285 to be fair kerrys all ireland win in 2000 was with a completly different team so its fair to say tyrone and kerry are equal in all ireland wins in recent years

Oh thats interesting, so tell me with what team did Kerry use to win it in 2000 by proxy, Carlow, Wicklow, London?

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 02/07/2009 21:46:59    330449