The first week of the championship saw wins for naomh eoin,erins own and defending champions noamh brid with mount leinster rangers recieving a bye so who is your prediction for this years championship?

miseal (Carlow) - Posts: 49 - 22/06/2009 11:19:11    319117

I thought NB looked good yesterday. They have quite a settled defence which has been the same for the last coulple of seasons. James Kehoe gave an assured performance in goal yesterday, beaten only by Paudie Kehoe's 21 metre free.

ballygowan (Carlow) - Posts: 70 - 22/06/2009 13:48:57    319383

what were miseal like? the got a lot of goals..

old yellar (None) - Posts: 2631 - 22/06/2009 17:50:31    319696

miseal were good and wont be far off the championship... carlow town had alot of poor performances from players that should have been far more effective... miseal are so strong down the middle any team will struggle with them

sharpshot (Carlow) - Posts: 40 - 24/06/2009 01:56:42    321441

myshall are a strong team. Both Naomh Brid and st.mullins were poor, it could of went anyway. Great to see jhonny nevin back again. I hope it encourages other players to keep at it and to realise you are only as old as you feel!
I do have belief in the st.mullins team . I belive they are a team who still have to click. There is some little element there that Eddie o Conner must work on. I have,nt heard much about mlr. They are playing Naomh Brid this Saturday, Be interesting to see that result.
Please share thoughts and views.

C.T.H.C. Can the real hurling people of Carlow Town now see with their own eyes whats going on in the club,or should i say not going on up there.1Senior team hammered by myshal ,2 See nationalist review on U21 Cship and the chairman cant even name the Manager.3 minor manager quit,due to lack of interest from panel.This Executive have not only ruined the club but have put hurling up there in the doldrums.These people could not wait to get rid of a very vibrant bunch of people who had built up a strong youthful bunch of coaches and players to go forward and bring some pride and glory back to the club.The current Club is a disgrace to the memory of great players and mentors who have gone to their reward,and in my opinion the executive should step down ,and if the dont somebody from either Carlow Co. Board or Croke park needs to run them out of there ,and ask if that body of people who were involved before would come back and bring this proud club back to the 21st Century.

john63 (Carlow) - Posts: 3 - 25/06/2009 17:07:32    323092

Erins own were robbed of one of there best players and captain last week by the ref...how he managed to pick one player out of a big brawl is beyond me as he wasnt even involved in the starting of the fight...one of the ballinkillen players, was clearly seen throwing punches at the erins own centre back for no reason which started the whole thing...he only got a yellow card while we have a man who could be suspended for the rest of the championship now..this is ridiculous as everyone in the crowd seen the ballinkillen player starting it for no reason...also in the myshall cthc game 2 players were clearly seen striking and both only recieved yellows...

cmcs (Carlow) - Posts: 8 - 26/06/2009 01:26:07    323510

an observation on cmcs' comment. you are correct 2 players did strike each clearly at the end of the miseal/c town game, but i thougth the ref did a very sensible thing only issueing yellow as one of the players, will be an extremely important player come july 11 and he wouldn't be there if a red was issued. of course the ref wasn't correct but he was dead right, sensible reffing. its good to see new refs coming through, with 2 good perfomances in dr cullen sunday with 2 new refs, encouraging stuff

pieman (Carlow) - Posts: 67 - 26/06/2009 14:39:01    323992

In response to CMCS, your captain was red carded for been the third man in. Those rules are there to stop any one getting involved in a scuffle and to stop melees. As Captain he should have more restraint than to get involved in a physical altercation. The ref was correct in my opinion because Erins Own are a team that always has a third man get involved in fights, e.g last years game against Bkillen and there not their not running in to just to pull lads off each other either. As for the Ballinkillen player hitting the EO player, theres no denying that but he was struck with the hurl for the EO player first and then lashed out. Red card should have been handed to both of them but in saving your No. 6 for the Ring Final he had to save the Bkillen player too.

TrafficLight (Carlow) - Posts: 1 - 26/06/2009 15:45:38    324085

i know pieman i see where you are coming from as our no.6 was in the same position and was only given a yellow too and i am glad that both players are available for july 11th now ,but still rules are rules and players should not be treated differntly just caus hes a county player or not,like how should our player surely feel hard done by..as for trafficlight you are completely wrong and obviously dont know what you are talking about..this player was not the 3rd man in he was actually one of the last in and you can see this on the nationalist website quiet clearly as he comes in from the left when the brawl is already underway,in fact it was actually another bkillen man 3rd in as it was 2 against one when it started..and as for the comment about getting hit with the hurl that is nonsense as jacko is the cleanest and quietest hurler in carlow and when he was getting punched on the ground he didn hit back caus he wanted to be able to play the ring final on july 11th..also in last years match a bkillen player delibritely shouldered a young 17year old straight in the face ,obviously someone is going to stand up for the young lad..Pieman is talking sense,u clearly dont have a clue

cmcs (Carlow) - Posts: 8 - 27/06/2009 02:05:40    324573

look lads at the end of the day what is done is done. however, was completely out of order. yes its a local derby and its gonna be tense. no need for the dirty pulls and off the ball punches, let ur hurling do the talkin wall!!!!!!!!!!

yupyaboya (Carlow) - Posts: 8 - 27/06/2009 10:20:54    324620

John63 you should give back the shovel because you can neither use it or breast feed it. The fact that the senior panel has had in excess of 25 training is a marked improvement on what's gone on over the last number of years and is enough to drive some people back on the drink!!
It was usually the norm that the senior manager looked after u/21's and seemingly is getting a good response this year.
The reason the minors were not training was because they were stoppped by their parents who would be part of this "vibrant" group you mention who with their coaching "skills" and direction of the juvenile "committee" have the underage teams in CTHC firmly entrenched in the "B" division. It would be directly linked to the 7, yes 7, "coaches" who looked after the under 16's last year. When did you ever hear of an underage team having 7 "coaches"? Yes, when their sons are involved and there is no authorithy to implement proper structures for team management. These are the same 7 who have got the "hump" with structures being imposed to bring about some discipline and progress within the club so have helped in having the minors boycott training. The saddest part is that some of these not alone never hurled for CTHC but never hurled at all and yet had the audacity to attend a club meeting calling for the resignation of a club trustee and executive officer!! There's more to running a hurling club than a butcher's stall I'm afraid and these people along with yourself John63 have seen this. So no matter what century you talk about I think the present people have proven they have the knowledge and ability despite all adversaries to keep the flag flying and a big well done to them. Hopefully I will be back living in Carlow before the year is out and if it's only to fill the water bottles I will lend a hand because that's what it's all about.

centrefield (Carlow) - Posts: 65 - 27/06/2009 12:57:00    324691

Centrefield,
I read your last posting and finally realised why you were so ignorant of the facts re CTHC - you gave the game away when you revealed you weren't living here at all - somebody is obviously twisting you with misinformation and with an agenda. On foot of your posting I made a call to someone I knew was involved with the U-16's last year, an ex-county manager who played junior championship for the club last year, not rocket science to figure it out! He confirmed that he was the coach of that group last year despite committments to training another senior club last year. The u-16's also had one manager and 3 other selectors, a pretty standard set-up I would think. Another interesting aside-he also confirmed that nobody from the club ever said as much as thanks to him once for his efforts,good or bad, nor did anyone from the club ask him was he interested in helping out with any team this year. No hidden agenda, that's just the way it is so he took on a 2nd adult team in N Brid this year and is also giving a small hand to the county u-14 development squad. A final aside-he also told me that CTHC refused N Brid permission to warm-up on their pitch last Saturday-ironic considering N Brid always supported CTHC with their tournaments in the past, Ballinabranna used as a pitch etc.
So my friend, I doubt he's lying so they are some of the facts of the matter, you should do a little more research yourself!

barrnasraide (Carlow) - Posts: 49 - 27/06/2009 14:14:56    324745

Maith an Fearr Barr na Sraide, the top of the morning to the top of the street. I see you've been to SPEC SAVERS. Good Man yourself, now don't sit on those new glasses or wear them out reading non sensical threads as I'm away to bed after a very long night shift on the rig but I'll be back to you ASAP because from reading your thread you either got a bad line to the top of the Ridge or you've got hearing problems aswell.

centrefield (Carlow) - Posts: 65 - 28/06/2009 12:22:46    325241

u-21 Championship
Carlow Town 3 1976, 1977, 2004
Carlow won 1 championship in 32 years at least 16 u-21 championships have come back to carlow town pick of players granted this is a estimations details from http://www.carlow.gaa.ie/page/roll_of_honour.html

Minors championship
Carlow Town 9 1957, 1958, 1975, 1981, 1982,1983, 1984, 1986, 2002
16 footballs championships have been split between Blues, eire og and Palatine since Carlow town won 1in the same period of time carlow town picks out of same pool of players

Senior Championships
Carlow Town 10 1927, 1937, 1938, 1942, 1961,1963, 1977, 1979, 1980, 1988
16 footballs championships have been split between Blues, eire og and Palatine since Carlow town won a championship carlow town picks out of same pool of players

My memory is a bit bad when its comes to u-14 last time it was won was 1992 and u-16 was 1996 or 1997 .

The figures tell a story of inepititude. A club cannot be measured in results alone but there is no club .
I just happen to look back at some of the old posts . this is a part of a interesting post
1. rugby league team using the pitch
2. disbanding of camoige club
3. lack of results at senior level and team not fulfilling fixtures. why was there nothing done? Dan was manager last year and Curran in 2006 so its not all down to the players!!!!!!!!!!! 2 bad years players problem, 10 bad years its the executive problem
4. a club were no one wants to go into, so down to executive to create a welcoming atmosphere
5. putting the Carlow town club in a bad light at county board level, leinster level and at national level. outsiders to the club know there is something rotten but what is it
6.Lack of a junior team for 2009 not promoting hurling in carlow town
7. the debactacle that was the 2008 agm held in 2009 you would think a club would be all embracing of members
8. 5 players left the club and not one contacted and 2 senior players with the club disgraceful as all top organisations retention of important inidividuals is nesscary to be sucessful. Players are important for if you dont have them you dont have a hurling team and that what the club started as a bunch of hurlers wanting to represent carlow town
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so the question to the current executive either stand down and do the honourable thing or just do the complete opposite to what you are doing now because whatever you are doing now is not working!!!!!!!!!!! to centrefield have you got blinkers on?

jackthelad22 (Carlow) - Posts: 20 - 28/06/2009 21:46:17    325703

jack the lad,
Whoever you are, you have your finger on the pulse

barrnasraide (Carlow) - Posts: 49 - 28/06/2009 23:43:17    325854

Would it not be best for those disaffected with CTHC to establish new club? It would probably help hurling in the town hugely to have two clubs, much as it did for football when first there was the O'Hanrahan's/Graiguecullen rivalry and then the O'Hanrahan's/Eire Og one.

As I have said before, go back to the old Pearse's name and put the emphasis on LOCAL youth like Eire Og did in their early days. You could play at the RTC or St Pat's or even Knockbeg or something to start with.

With the current economic situation, it should be easy to get a field off the council in the coming years with all those huge factory sites lying idle now.

TAFKANO1FAN (Carlow) - Posts: 588 - 30/06/2009 00:12:31    327198

Top of the morning to the top of the street, adjust those new specs my good friend as your buddy just cut and pasted an old propaganda piece of old.
Tak, the reason these people can't start a new club is for the same reason there is no camogie club. They are the same group, who like the "camogie" club have been living off the CTHC's generosity of providing funding, facilities and equipment but when asked to go it alone they don't have the know how, committment or experience. As was asked on a previous thread regarding forming of club, a plea in desperation, " is there anybody out there who can donate 10 acres", does he believe the present CTHC site was a donation? Maybe he should source some of the photographs of the dedicated giving up their free time to pick stones and clear field to put in place pitches, and facilities. These volunteers, some who have passed on did not make this almighty effort to provide these facilities to give them away so fair ball to the present executive for preserving their honour and integrity in the name of CTHC.
For the lesser informed it is not possible to disband a club if you cannot form one. Camogie is a completely different organisation and after instruction came from their governing body that they had to register a legitimate club in its own right those who fancied a camogie club jumped ship and tryed to lay blame on the exec of CTHC. Facts are facts.

centrefield (Carlow) - Posts: 65 - 30/06/2009 07:32:50    327280

Has anybody any idea what is going on down in St. Mullins. They seem to be off the pace this year. It seems strange concidering that the have Eddie O Connor in charge down there. I thought they would be the team to watch this year. I also thought that Ballinkillen would be more competitive as they blooded a number of younger players last year but they also seem to be struggling.
Will Bagenalstown make the break-through this year after many years of under age success.

Naomh Brid seemed unitrested last week-end against us (MLR). They wil be a different proposition come crunch time i think though. Mark Brennan went off with a groin strain after ten minutes and i hope he is fit and well for CR. Naomh Brid seemed to fall apart after he went off. I did'nt see any sign of Alan Brennan or Patrick Hickey which would be a big loss to them.

Myshall seem to be showing well this year and would seem to be the team to beat. They might be a forward or two short of an excellent team though. Their backs and midfield are very strong.

aragorn1 (Carlow) - Posts: 156 - 30/06/2009 09:16:52    327300

Facts are facts.
centrefield , 30/06/2009 at 07:32

Well you have laid down the gauntlet to them now. I actually want to see two clubs in the town as (a) I think it would make hurling stronger because every team needs a rival and Carlow Town don't really have one and (b) the town is half the county's population, it should have more than one club and it would benefit the county team if hurling was promoted more widely.

If they need a pitch, it won't be a problem. O'Hanrahan's survived for over 20 years without a pitch of their own. They eventually bought and home and even went on the win the Leinster title.

It seems to me, as an inactive former clubman who does not know the exact ins and outs of all this, that you two sides will ever agree on this. Time for you both to move on.

TAFKANO1FAN (Carlow) - Posts: 588 - 30/06/2009 11:45:05    327428