enda.muldoon
County: Derry
Posts: 194

319127 People may find ulster boring or whatever,but i was looking at the draw yesterday and came to the conclusion that the teams in it that most teams would want to avoid were the ulster teams,armagh,monaghan,donegal,fermanagh and down.that says something...

I suppose enda if we had seen an Ulster team make a semi final on more than 1 occassion in the last 3 years people may fear the above teams for with reason. Or even a quarter final on more than 5 of the last 24 occassions in the last 3 years then maybe people would be trembling in their boots. As it is I guess it will just be the same teams who will beat the Ulster teams this year as have done for the past 3 years en masse. With the exception of the Mighty Tyrone of course who have won the whole thing out on the 1 occasion that an Ulster team made a semi final in the last 3 years.

Just stating the truth. As you can tell from previous posts I don't rate the standard of football in general throughout the country this year and thinkn that children are suffering a lack of talent education which will severly hurt the game in the long run. Being bulky and extremely fit is now the only criteria to pass to be picked out a sa possible intercounty footballer for many counties. Talent is an added bonus. And if you can kick a point then they've got really lucky. But, you have to be on the weights. that's the most important thing it seems.

I was lsitening to the radio the other day with Boylan and Maughan and they pointe dout that most National school teachers are women nowadays. As is my sister. She was part of a class in a teaching college in Dublin. 90% of the entire college were girls. There are very few teachers coming in these days promoting Gaelic Games in comparison to years ago. Other sports will benefit of course and that's OK. but it is a reason why talent isnt being nurtured and skills arent being developed. the only counties now who will benefit are counties with a strong underage plan. Kerry and Cork traditionally should have this going into the future. tyrone definitely have a plan. The Dubs and Mayo have the money and will be OK. As for the others.............they need help from congress.

thykingdomcome (Kerry) - Posts: 1206 - 22/06/2009 20:36:07    319885

ulster football wins matches

coO (Cavan) - Posts: 217 - 22/06/2009 20:47:14    319901

thykingdomcome
County: Kerry
Posts: 511

319885 Fair play to you for putting facts up,i couldnt be bothered to put that much effort in.Tyrone who

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 22/06/2009 20:53:13    319909

mikeyjohn

Same old crap that you type and you would not know a bad game of football if it hit you in the face or a good one at that.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 22/06/2009 20:58:54    319918

Meath and Dublin meet in a bore and we are told that the standard in Leinster is terrible. What does it say about Ulster then when you have Tyrone contesting a final against either Cavan or Antrim? That was a diabolical game yesterday and we are told, by Ulster people mostly, that Tyrone and Derry are top 4 teams. Whatever about Tyrone I think that Derry have a long way to go.

Football is going downhill rapidly but I have to say I got a laugh, as always, out of Brolly and he trying to defend the standard and Derry football. Had it been Westmeath against Louth he would have had a field day.

Cork have been the best team by a stretch so far. Think they have a decent chance of going all the way this time.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4742 - 22/06/2009 21:00:57    319920

Bad refereeing is boring! That applies to Tyrone Derry yesterday.
Was not that the same ref in Casement as referred the Kerry Tyrone semi in 2003.
Teams that want to win most push the edges of the rules in all games so if we want the most determined teams to win playing nice purist football we need a ref that can fairly enforce the rules with consistency and teamwork with his officials. Yesterday there was little consistency and control was nearly lost completely
If we take an easy going sloppy approach to the rules and let bad refereeing go unquestioned what could be a great game will end like a drunken brawl every time determined teams meet. The stand up physical challenge is one of the most attractive things in Gaelic football which has been lost in most other team sports, It can only work with rules that protect players(which we have) but also with referees who are consistent in their protection of the players and do not tempt players to take the law into their own hands.

cjx (Tyrone) - Posts: 270 - 22/06/2009 21:07:28    319930

Joxer
County: Dublin
Posts: 227

319920 Were not even in the top 10 in ireland joxer

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 22/06/2009 21:09:08    319931

Tyrone posters blame everyone bar the muck they play

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 22/06/2009 21:10:18    319932

I think if Tyrone players grew them lumberjack beards of last year they will have no bother in chopping down those 15 tree trunks of cork if it comes to that? But I must agree to a fellow poster Cork do look impressive well drilled, Mayo look a much better team also this year, Galway may have peaked duing the Leauge KERRY blowing Hot and Cold ,Dublin? unkownen again outside of there provence and Tyrone moving up a Gear every match. Verdict ?I haven't a baldy !

williewentwell (Tyrone) - Posts: 1712 - 22/06/2009 21:12:15    319937

Yes pure MUCK! last summer in Dublin what was the score again Toma007?

williewentwell (Tyrone) - Posts: 1712 - 22/06/2009 21:16:23    319942

Wee willie your living in the past

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 22/06/2009 21:33:20    319961

The Ulster Championship is the only one to have thrown up a bit of a shock so far, with either Antrim or Cavan due to play in the final. A bit more exciting than looking at the same teams slug it out year after year.

Sawyer (Louth) - Posts: 269 - 22/06/2009 21:35:37    319966

thykingdom glad to see the kerry team of 09 are doing their best to dispel the view that you need to be fit and bulky to win sam. and what about the the two goliaths up front in 08. pot and kettle mate.

reddoctor (Tyrone) - Posts: 1241 - 22/06/2009 22:02:58    320013

I have to agree, personally the standard of football in this years championship has been poor apart from Cork's performance in the replay against Kerry.

Standing in casement park yesterday watching the Tyrone pre-match warm-up was unbelievable. This is an amateur sport and these guys were warming-up like they were about to go into a fight with a heavyweight boxer. Doing press-up's then a quick tuurn around to do stomach crunches, what is our game turning into. You ouldn't see any of the worlds tops sports people doing this prior to their event. I've watch Rugby and never have I seen this pre match. The emphasis of skill and enjoyment are slowly being taken out of our game and being replaced by physicality. Are we trying to model ourselves on Aussie Rules? The games administration has to look at this. Yesterdays game was absolutely brutal to watch apart from a few great long range scores. Three/four men tackling the player in possession, blanket defence from bot sides, all this is taking the enjoyment from our sport. At the end of the day its about winning, but what about the cost to supporters who go in the hope of being entertained.

I am from Derry and I can say the best team won yesterday, but lets point out something. We had the 2 Bradleys, SON, Mulligan on that pitch yesterday and these boys have talent but because of the negativity in our game nowadays they are unable to showcase it.

Feel it is time to go to 13 aside or risk losing our future generations to other codes as our sport is starting to become precictive and boring.

Any thoughts?

Scenicgael (Derry) - Posts: 38 - 22/06/2009 22:39:19    320057

Its the same in other provinnces Dublin always walks leinster, May and Galway are the only teams in Connaght for example Mayo and Roscommon I'D FIND BETTER ENTERTAINMENT WATCHIN PAINT DRY and in Munster its only Cork or Kerry who wins it. mickey jhon if you think ulsters bad look at your own province

_____me_______ (Cavan) - Posts: 36 - 22/06/2009 22:39:40    320058

reddoctor, at least those two can kick a ball. Not like all the tripe we've seen throughout the year this year by all these young terminators. And I have excluded a few counties in my posts, yours and mine included.

fact is there is a pile of tripe puke football being played by teh vast majority of teams on this island. Would much rather watch a local club game these days and I dare say that most decent clubs would beat about 20 of the intercounty panels out there. They need help. they need some talented coaches who can teach young lads that its not all about size. Size will help but its not necessary. Talent is always necessary. or at least should be.

there's nothing wrong with Tommy Walshes talent. he's from very strong pedigree and can catch and kick a ball unlike a lot of players we've seen throughout the year. you cant fault Donaghy either. Player of the year in 06 and has no problem catching, kicking and soloing.

thykingdomcome (Kerry) - Posts: 1206 - 22/06/2009 22:42:16    320068

got to say, ulster football has been very poor this year, ..... only tyrone can hold their heads high.

you reckon mayo v rosscommon was shameful on saturday nite????

good jayas tyrone could do TIME for the slaugher they're gonna carry out in a few weeks time in clones!!!

doo_her (Tyrone) - Posts: 60 - 23/06/2009 02:22:42    320230

I read the same rubbish every year in these pages about how the standard is falling, too physical etc etc etc. The championship has barely started, the best games every year happen from the provincial finals onwards. The criticism by some posters is laughable, if any of you'se actually played football to inter-county standard them you your comments would perhaps have some merit. In essence you are the typical 'hurlers on the ditch', capable of criticism but of very little else. Take a look back over matches in the past, the standards of these games were of a similar nature to nowadays. Does this mean football has been terrible for 125 years? Cue some hurling fundamentalist saying yes! (On a side note the hurling has been great this year, good to see Dublin emerging in Leinster)

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 23/06/2009 10:18:49    320316

How has munster, leinster and connaught been wose than ulster. No-one has hammered anyone by 20+ points and for god sake why all the emphasis on the uolster championship???

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 23/06/2009 10:39:03    320332

SUCH A POINTLESS, BORING AND REPETITIVE THREAD... YAWN!

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 23/06/2009 11:31:12    320402