Hokey

For what, stating an opinion? At least it has stirred a debate and that is positive; maybe some will reflect on their myopic views and if so that is good. You can be a Unionist, North or South, I don't care but don't try to rewrite history and change it to suit your own narrow bigoted anti-Nationalist views. For the many fine posters from the 26 counties I am certainly NOT having a go at you JUST those who hog the limelight in the Dublin media and who seem to think they speak for ALL Southern citizens by demonizing the Northern Catholic community all the time. Shame on some Northern posters for buying into this nonsense too.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9817 - 18/06/2009 17:29:02    316203

Just Clean crazy...

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 18/06/2009 17:35:38    316212

two many coach potato here

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 18/06/2009 17:40:42    316219

18/06/2009 17:40:42
hipster
County: Dublin
Posts: 647

316219 two many coach potato here

Mmmmmmm .... potato ...... mmmmmmmm ...... two potatoes.....

RMDrive (Donegal) - Posts: 2202 - 18/06/2009 18:09:19    316247

Ulsterman when you say that this debate might cause come people to reflect on their myopic views will that include yourself and all the others on here who think that anybody who doesn't support a United Ireland, doesn't like Celtic, has no issues with the Brits etc etc are all 'West Brits'?

gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 18/06/2009 18:34:58    316277

hipster your 5 word contribution contains 3 errors sounds like a drunk indian from an old B movie.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 18/06/2009 18:45:13    316294

too many tomatoos i would say, 7tomatoos to be exact.

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 18/06/2009 20:36:48    316427

I think everyone is a bit wound up here.
May I present myself as a conundrum for you all and you may feel free to label me as you se fit it may be educational for me.

My father was born in Scotland. Iwas born in Derry. I have played Gaelic and Rugby even tried soccor. I support the Irish rugby team and support no soccor team at all. I love watching Cricket I think it is a great sport. I have never joined a political party or movement. I am a great believer that this is one country. I desire to see a united Ireland and because of that I feel that I have no option but to support Sinn Fein as they are the only party with a policy in this regard. I do not condone violence but having read the thoughts of Dom Helder Camara I believe that the bullet fired from a gun is only the end product of far greater evils that cultivated the circumstances for the gun to come to play. I am obsessed with my love for Gaelic games especially football. However i dont really know much about it . I would not think it right to call any poster anything other than Gaels or Irish. I find the terms West Brit and Nordie distasteful. I would call myself Irish What would you call me.

And Ram you are right if only by accident We "nationalists " do need to be reassured sometimes that we are not struggling in vain or alone we would like to believe that our fellow gaels and irish at least understand that you in the 26 counties take for granted that which we only hope for.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 18/06/2009 21:09:06    316469

what i wrote over the last few days was not put up , i do not agree with corkcelt or ulster man or a few more on this post you s know nothing about history or politics for that matter

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 18/06/2009 21:14:24    316476

18/06/2009 18:45:13
corkcelt
County: Cork
Posts: 746

316294 hipster your 5 word contribution contains 3 errors sounds like a drunk indian from an old B movie.

LOL Excellent analogy pale face.

RMDrive (Donegal) - Posts: 2202 - 18/06/2009 22:29:18    316548

derryman an excellent posting where you have at least tried to see both sides, unlike some people on here, and in fairness there is no doubt that most Irish people would like to see a United Ireland, providing of course that it was brought about in a peaceful and agreed manner. However I do think that if this United Ireland ever did happen, a lot of people up North would get the shock of their lives at been ruled by our useless lot down here. Straight away you would pay far more for your groceries, clothes, electrical items, cars, insurance, road tax, gas, electricity the list is endless (did I leave out alcohol), believe you me while you may sit up North dreaming about a United Ireland, chances are though you would be praying for the Brits to come back after a few months of Brian Cowen rule. Maybe paying through the nose for everything is worth it in your estimation to have a United Ireland, but there is a sizeable majority in the North (including many Catholics) who would prefer to see the Brits left in charge up North.

gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 18/06/2009 23:16:20    316594

This thread makes an interesting read if you go back to Ulstermans original post and look at the direction the thread took.

pearsesabu (Antrim) - Posts: 663 - 19/06/2009 08:47:59    316718

hipster based on your coach potato effort maybe the moderator did you a favour in not putting up "what you wrote" as for not knowing the first thing about history or politics, I beg to disagree.
pearseabu I agree that this thread has seriously digressed but then again almost all long running threads do.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 19/06/2009 10:47:07    316823

derryman. Excellent post and I would not disagree with a word you said. If you were born in Derry then you are Irish same as I am, having been born in Cork. I love all sports and have no problem whatever with people watching or playing Cricket/Rugby etc. I feel a very strong empathy to the Nationalist population of the 6 Counties and have many friends there. What rattles my cage is reading posts from some albeit a small minority of southern "GAA Supporters" who are being deliberately cruel and antagonistic towards fellow GAA supporters from the North. Some calling them Brits and whingers when they attempt to assert their Irishness or explain their circumstances. No doubt the sensible course is to ignore those posters but I then feel by my silence I am acquiescing to their agenda. Accordingly my nature will not allow me to do anything other then to confront them.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 19/06/2009 11:03:55    316838

HokeyPokey
County: Tyrone
Posts: 964

316427 too many tomatoos i would say, 7tomatoos to be exact.

So are you heading to the Wexford game this weekend Hokey...seeing that you're such a huge (if not secret) Wexford fan!!!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 19/06/2009 11:54:29    316892

CorkCelt
What rattles my cage is reading posts from some albeit a small minority of southern "GAA Supporters" who are being deliberately cruel and antagonistic towards fellow GAA supporters from the North


Hear Hear Corkcelt, well said!

The irony is that Mary Mcaleese is from the 6C but would these "small minority of southern "GAA Supporters" ever confess to ROI having a 'British president?
No of course they wouldn't! Additionally, their grandparents\great grandparents would have been born in an era (pre partition) when the whole of Ire was in the UK. Would they say their grandparents and\or greatgrandparent were British? No, of course they wouldn't! The biggest irony of all is that these folk who bait Northern Nats about being British think they are taking a pro Irish stance ( IE we're Irish you're not !! ) when if you actually think about it they are taking the Pro British stance of partition which they can't even see !!

Meath_bhoy (Meath) - Posts: 590 - 19/06/2009 12:22:04    316919

the problem with you corkcelt and the likes of you ,yous are what we call super cats yous talk all the talk but yous wont walk the walk bar room politics is easy hatred of britain is easy the bunch of yous sound like that gang out of the life of brian, as for my spelling well i am self thought and only learned to read properly in belmarsh

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 19/06/2009 13:43:34    317008

ok hipster sorry for teasing you about your post , well done and good luck to you.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 19/06/2009 14:23:16    317069

England gave many irish good homes these type of threads are sicking

leroy (UK) - Posts: 223 - 19/06/2009 14:40:29    317094

Leroy
England gave many irish good homes these type of threads are sicking


Yes, and Ireland gave England lots of people to do the jobs that British people WOULDN't do !!
Do you think there was someone at Holyhead port 'handing' Irish folk cheques for thousands of pounds and pots of cash when they stepped off the boat !!
It wasn't quite as simple as that Leroy

Meath_bhoy (Meath) - Posts: 590 - 19/06/2009 15:06:49    317135