spudenator excellent post. Must say your origin makes a lot more sense then the one I heard, anyone else have any take on it.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 17/06/2009 21:22:09    315263

horse are you referring to the definition of shoneen, or to the North American Indian bit. If its the definition there is no debate that is what a shoneen is. If its the Indian bit I have absolutely no idea, its something someone said sometime that just stuck in my memory but having read spudenator's reply his origin appears much more plausible and after having a Pow Wow with myself I am prepared to concede that whoever said it was either mistaken or taking the firewater.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 17/06/2009 21:30:27    315278

Oh i get it now, i'm english because i dont care what goes on in Northern ireland i dont support Celtic and couldnt care less if there ever is a United ireland. Good come back lads, is it any wonder the unionists in the North dont want a United ireland

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 17/06/2009 21:32:35    315285

what dhorse

im sure you'd say the same paddy if it was mayo in the uk. but sure as long as paddy is well and free what more do we really want

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4140 - 17/06/2009 21:55:56    315308

spudenator
County: Laois

no offence taken. just glad you could crowbar in something from your irish degree

bluboy (Dublin) - Posts: 318 - 17/06/2009 22:01:01    315315

32_4_1
County: Meath
Posts: 631

im sure you'd say the same paddy if it was mayo in the uk. but sure as long as paddy is well and free what more do we really want

He's entitled to his opinion, it's people like you who are well and free that I'd be more worried about

bluboy (Dublin) - Posts: 318 - 17/06/2009 22:11:28    315330

paddyogall
County: Mayo
Posts: 887

314933 why should we in the south pander to the you in the North?, lets call a spade a spade here most people in Ireland dont really care about what happens in Northern Ireland.

I appreciate your honesty paddy and what you say is true, most of us up here have known that for a long, long time. Begs the question really, if Ireland can ever truly be united, I mean physically you can change the lines on a map and lodge it with the UN or whatever, but if paddy is represenative of the majority of views of those south of the border, and I believe he is, then we have a real problem on our hands.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 17/06/2009 22:14:07    315337

dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 2316

315241 32_4_1
County: Meath
Posts: 630

315156 democracy was also when in 1921 the will of the irish people throughout the whole 32 countys wanted freedom and it wasnt given.



That everybody in the 32 counties wanted a united ireland

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 17/06/2009 22:54:19    315408

brend paddy represents himself and no one else that i know of. and to you paddy no you are not English if you were i would have no problem with you because your thoughts and views are consistant with those of an Englishman.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 17/06/2009 23:03:59    315421

At the end of the day lads/lasses, Irish people are very racist, so what did you expect?

Did you see me on TV at the protest?

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 18/06/2009 00:15:49    315514

paddy doesnt deserve an opinion. throwing back in our irish ancestors face everything they gave their lives for

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4140 - 18/06/2009 01:04:23    315529

i dont get your original comment dhorse. are you agreeing with me or not

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4140 - 18/06/2009 01:05:06    315530

corkcelt
County: Cork
Posts: 735

315421 brend paddy represents himself and no one else that i know of. and to you paddy no you are not English if you were i would have no problem with you because your thoughts and views are consistant with those of an Englishman.

Well how are my views consistant with an English man then? really some of the stuff you come out with is pure nonsense

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 18/06/2009 09:08:46    315573

34_2_1 and cork celt i used to be like you lot, like to pretend i was a bit of a "chucky" until i realised one day that it doesnt really matter, more important things in life then worrying who face is on the back of the currency, anyways we'll soon be just Regions in a European Super state.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 18/06/2009 10:13:03    315619

so one day you just woke up and saw the light, a road to Demascus conversion then paddy, and overnight you changed. Threw off all the suffocating burden of our history and embraced your new life as a liberated shoneen. Well good for you paddy I hope you feel fulfilled. You travel your road and I'll travel mine and never the twain shall meet, thank God.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 18/06/2009 10:31:52    315631

corkcelt
County: Cork
Posts: 737

315631 so one day you just woke up and saw the light, a road to Demascus conversion then paddy, and overnight you changed. Threw off all the suffocating burden of our history and embraced your new life as a liberated shoneen. Well good for you paddy I hope you feel fulfilled. You travel your road and I'll travel mine and never the twain shall meet, thank God.

Why do you keep stalking me every where i go?

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 18/06/2009 10:45:14    315646

Don't flatter yourself paddy, you dont cost me a thought, I am a genuine GAA fan, I enjoy the Hogan Stand forum, I will give my opinion wherever and whenever I want to. If you happen to be on the same thread and if you are carrying on with your usual antagonistic insulting behaviour towards my fellow Gaels in the 6 Counties I will respond.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 18/06/2009 11:41:16    315730

Oh i get it now, i'm english because i dont care what goes on in Northern ireland i dont support Celtic and couldnt care less if there ever is a United ireland. Good come back lads, is it any wonder the unionists in the North dont want a United ireland


No, Paddyogall you are not english! You are indeed Irish but definitely one of WestBrit persuasion shall we say.

West Briton (adjective West British; both often shortened to West Brit) is a pejorative term for an Irish person who is alleged by the user of the term to be excessively sympathetic to the United Kingdom or who takes his cultural and social cues from Great Britain.[1]

Meath_bhoy (Meath) - Posts: 590 - 18/06/2009 12:01:38    315751

Paddyogall, below sound like anyone we know?...Ok, so you like Gaelic games


"West Briton" is today used by some Irish people to criticise others for a variety of perceived faults:

* taking a view of Irish history which highlights perceived positive aspects of British influence in Ireland, or criticizing Irish nationalist rebellions
* cultural cringe: following British popular culture, while appearing embarrassed by or disdainful of aspects of Irish culture, such as the Irish language or Gaelic games
*opposition or indifference to a United Ireland or militant Irish Republicanism
*Support (or alleged support) for Neo-Unionism
* Nationalist former politician Kevin Boland described the Fine Gael party as such in his 1984 book Fine Gael: British or Irish.[

Meath_bhoy (Meath) - Posts: 590 - 18/06/2009 12:05:45    315754

So all supporters of the Fine gael party are west Britons then, wow a lot of people in ireland are west Britons then, an indifference to a united ireland, wow another large chunk of irish people are west Britons. Or i have a little theory maybe i dont pretend to be "chuckys" like yourselfs

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 18/06/2009 12:22:16    315784