Disgrace these players got bans halved.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 11/06/2009 17:17:33    308531

Yop I would take at guess at the fact Mc Guigan got 4 weeks for the same incident a few months ago. It's hard to argue with that.

Niamh (Derry) - Posts: 2397 - 11/06/2009 17:17:45    308532

Oh dear oh dear......... The GAA is a feckin joke!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 11/06/2009 17:24:07    308546

Yop, the ban is officially for "attempting to strike", it wasn't an actual headbutt. My point is he didn't throw the head straight into McGuckin, they clashed heads which Tommy initiated. What's so funny about this, did you even see the incident? As I say, I'm not at all saying Tommy is blameless, but he doesn't deserve as much of a suspension as the other 2 lads. Instead he gets double. Extraordinary stuff altogether, you have to wonder what kind of idiots are in charge of this.

mid-mon man (Monaghan) - Posts: 1680 - 11/06/2009 17:26:47    308550

Doherty was suspended for being sent off. He shouldn't have been sent off, well not for what he was dismissed for, if you follow.

The whole thing is a shambles, but keep it in perspective. Two wrongs do not make a right.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 11/06/2009 17:27:31    308554

We have double standards here by the GAA but that is not unusual because some counties get better treatment that others. What Monaghan County Board should do is refuse to pay the fine until they are treated the same as Derry because we all know the only way to hurt GAA Ireland is through the pocket. When the like of the president of the GAA and all his paid cronies don't get their extortionate weeks wages you would find the decision would be soon looked into and changed.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 11/06/2009 17:50:04    308585

Mulligan Eamonn, don't you understand? The CCC had no option to half Mullans ban, I'm sure the defence likened it to that of Mc Guigan who got 4 weeks. I agree Freemans should have also been halved but for those to say it weasn't an attempted headbutt are absurd.

Niamh (Derry) - Posts: 2397 - 11/06/2009 17:53:33    308590

Niamh, why did they have no option but to half Mullen's ban? I know McGuigan only got 4 weeks but 2 wrongs don't make a right, and they should have the balls(no pun intended!), to give him the proper ban that he deserved for a horrible act which doesn't belong on a football field. But instead they bowed to pressure and copied the ban given out to a similar incident from months ago so there wouldn't be uproar from Derry, complaining about favouritism to Tyrone.

mid-mon man (Monaghan) - Posts: 1680 - 11/06/2009 17:59:52    308597

enda.muldoon, I can see where your coming from but your wrong to think of Tommy Freeman in that way. He is actually very quiet. Its the brother who is the cocky one! Tommy only clenchs the fists and stuff like that when he scores to rally the rest of the team and the crowd, because everybody responds well to a Freeman point around Monaghan! His points have lifted Monaghan many times, thats why he gets so excited after he scores. And in my opionan the 3 of them should of got the 8 weeks.

Omen (Monaghan) - Posts: 205 - 11/06/2009 18:19:38    308615

Also

Category II - 4 weeks
Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman, or Sideline Official; Striking or attempting to strike with hurley, with minimal force; Kicking or attempting to kick, with minimal force; Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand or knee; Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent; Spitting at an opponent; Contributing to a melee.

Category III - 8 weeks
Striking with hurley, either with force or causing injury; Attempting to strike with hurley, with force; Kicking, either with force or causing injury; Attempting to Kick, with force; Stamping; Striking or attempting to strike with the head; Inflicting injury recklessly by means other than those stated above; Any type of assault on an Opposing Team Official.

The suspensions appear to fal into the correct categorys.

Niamh (Derry) - Posts: 2397 - 11/06/2009 18:21:40    308620

re niamh 11/6 Please don't treat me like a child course i know it was over the other decision but why was Mullins ban made at 8weeks in the beginning if the committee knew it would be halved on appeal. Tommie's incident was no better or worse than the other two, all us ordinary Joe soaps want is consistency and a level playing field for all not favoritism for some. The Gaa should treat each case on its merits not listen to Brolly and Spillane who think they are important.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 11/06/2009 18:21:56    308621

MMM exactly there would have been uproar and the inconsistency of the CCCC would have been questioned even more.

Niamh (Derry) - Posts: 2397 - 11/06/2009 18:42:00    308639

Niamh
County: Derry
Posts: 1696

308620
Also

Category II - 4 weeks
Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman, or Sideline Official; Striking or attempting to strike with hurley, with minimal force; Kicking or attempting to kick, with minimal force; Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand or knee; Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent; Spitting at an opponent; Contributing to a melee.

Category III - 8 weeks
Striking with hurley, either with force or causing injury; Attempting to strike with hurley, with force; Kicking, either with force or causing injury; Attempting to Kick, with force; Stamping; Striking or attempting to strike with the head; Inflicting injury recklessly by means other than those stated above; Any type of assault on an Opposing Team Official.

The suspensions appear to fal into the correct categorys.



They where min bans that was on those categorys

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 11/06/2009 18:50:58    308651

re niamh 11/6. Course i know the ccc had no other choice but to halve the ban, but why did they dish it out in the first place if they knew it would be halved on appeal.Tommie's incident was no better or worse than the other two and he should have been treated the same way.This is why all us ordinary people want is fair play for everyone not special treatment for some. Now the whole thing got out of hand from the beginning when the Gaa listened to Brolly and Spillane rather than judging the match on its footage and merits. What them pair of boys should do is take up bally-dancing seeing they want to cut out all man to man contact in our game

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 11/06/2009 19:04:22    308666

i'm not exactly sure who the people are who give out these suspensions, but in the fairness to all players, the gaa need to start up
a new disciplinary task force with includes referees accessors and respected former intercounty players with gaa chiefs
and rethink the gaa's disciplinary procedures. having former players involved will help as i feel their experience of playing intercounty and the pride and passion
which players have on match day would differencate between silly tackles and sheer malise. players might take their bans then. anyone agree
or is it just wishful thinking. the fa in england are trying to get ex-players to get involved as players know the games better then anyone.

POD09 (Limerick) - Posts: 486 - 11/06/2009 19:28:18    308682

Doesn't matter if there would've been uproar Niamh, the men in power should have had the guts to give an appropriate punishment and not pander to those who will complain. Will this set a dangerous precedent now? Seriously, like it seems you can go and forcefully knee a player in the crown jewels and only get a month for it, now that they've let off Mullen when and how are they going to come back from this? A joke.

mid-mon man (Monaghan) - Posts: 1680 - 11/06/2009 19:49:57    308697

Disgraceful what happend to Freeman i hope Monaghan county board challenge them all the way to the High courts.The Gaa deserve that after this its a joke they can pick and choose who they want suspended.I have never seen Tommy freeman as a dirty player.

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 11/06/2009 19:53:44    308705

Louise

I'm not passing judgement on the fella. I did say I wasn't looking for more suspensions. In fact I would rather see less, alot of these incidents would blow over quicker if a bit of copp on was used. I am not anti anyone or any county!

Like another post said, if Paul Galvin recieves another suspension then it doubles, so maybe common sence provailed and his football career wasn't ruined over a petty incident where being told to "catch himself on" done a better job than being suspended.

But more consistancy is whats needed.

wise_guy (Tyrone) - Posts: 1584 - 11/06/2009 20:01:26    308708

all right dell, just because your a ref dosn't mean you have to get their back and the disiplanary baords back every time

wise_guy (Tyrone) - Posts: 1584 - 11/06/2009 20:06:37    308711

Niamh
County: Derry
Posts: 1696

Category III - 8 weeks
Attempting to Kick, with force; Stamping; Striking

This is what doherty did kicking his marker few times.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 11/06/2009 20:09:24    308714