was disapointed with the dubs yesterday,but its not all bad ,i will take a few positives and wont get carried away.firstly the performance of darren magee,cahill,daveron and imo the most underrated player in dublin in flynn.i thought the way we played in the last 20 min of the 1st half was excellent,seemed to have tightened up the defence a little bit but still much to be improved on there.we won while not playing well which is always a good sign.even if we had of taken 4 or 5 of them 17 wides it would have been a complete hiding for the royals.1st champo game for gilroy and while there is plenty of things to work on a win is awin remember longford a couple a year back,we very nearly lost that game and still got to the semi finals.the negatives for me was the performance of usually reliable lads in henry and b brogan,cant see the lads playing that bad again this year,and the 17 wides,god what can you say about that,just one of those days and i suppose we created 17 chances so i would be more worried if we didnt create anything.was not a great performance at all but we beat meath and thats always a nice feeling.dont think we will win the all ireland but im not basing that on yesterdays game but if we improve on yesterday and are still playing football in august we can give anyone a game on our day.oh and since when did someones accent make them a bad player,brian odriscoll hasnt excatly got a finglas accent but he is hardly a pansy

finglas full ba (None) - Posts: 636 - 08/06/2009 21:08:03    305419

i have to add have been going to dublin games since i was a 5 year old at the 83 final and at this stage i would like to think i know a good and bad dublin team when i see one and i have to say this current dublin set up while might be short of winning an all ireland it is not as bad as some posters seem to think.has any team given a performance yet that we can say is good enough to carry them all the way to september

finglas full ba (None) - Posts: 636 - 08/06/2009 21:34:14    305475

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Good post Finglas. I wouldn't even rise to posters sniggering about accents. Yesterday was not the end of the world, we're still in it and we can only improve. Good quote from Keith Barr in the Indo today, "Most football people will tell you that first-round matches are sometimes like a boil on your arse - you just want to get rid of them".

bluboy (Dublin) - Posts: 318 - 08/06/2009 22:36:02    305541

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i have to add have been going to dublin games since i was a 5 year old at the 83 final and at this stage i would like to think i know a good and bad dublin team when i see one and i have to say this current dublin set up while might be short of winning an all ireland it is not as bad as some posters seem to think.has any team given a performance yet that we can say is good enough to carry them all the way to september


Now if you think that this team is good enough to win an all ireland maybe you should listen what the pundits said and watch it again.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 08/06/2009 22:39:02    305546

dublin wont win an all ireland.they will improve though but a last 8 is probaly about it. in fairness,how many would start on the tyrone,kerry or cork teams.not many i'm afraid to say.

superdub (Dublin) - Posts: 392 - 09/06/2009 00:54:06    305711

del read me post again,i didnt say we are good enough to win an allireland,and i dont listen to pundits,i have been playing football 27 years,i can make up me own mind when i have watched a game.

finglas full ba (None) - Posts: 636 - 09/06/2009 13:53:25    306181

superdub thats the good question about how many lads would start for cork,kerry,tyrone.would whelo start for kerry ahead of quirke or scanlon,?

finglas full ba (None) - Posts: 636 - 09/06/2009 13:56:45    306188

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del read me post again,i didnt say we are good enough to win an allireland,and i dont listen to pundits,i have been playing football 27 years,i can make up me own mind when i have watched a game.


Well we all listen to pundits when it suits ourselves but yes i picked you up wrong.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 09/06/2009 17:18:08    306466

we were ****** over by the ref 3 times in a row against dublin now. 05, 07 and now 09. should have won 07 and 09

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4196 - 09/06/2009 17:31:10    306491

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we were ****** over by the ref 3 times in a row against dublin now. 05, 07 and now 09. should have won 07 and 09


Are you having a bad day or something the ref cant help a watch stopping genuine mistake.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 09/06/2009 17:38:42    306504

the time is up on the massive tv's in croke park. theres no excuse. we are out AGAIN due to referees terrible judgement

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4196 - 09/06/2009 17:41:48    306510

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the time is up on the massive tv's in croke park. theres no excuse. we are out AGAIN due to referees terrible judgement


Did you not here me the first time one watch is stopped during breaks the other is kept going so both had stopped but looking up at screen is not going to tell you what is left of injury time.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 09/06/2009 17:50:26    306529

I agree the ref should've played more time, but this is not the reason Meath lost the game, they lost the game because they were hopeless on the day, and Dublin were'nt much better, but they were better and deserved to win. I'll be hoping for a big improvement the next day or it'll be a short summer.

PJ (None) - Posts: 2288 - 09/06/2009 17:58:54    306547

well even if it didnt he should still know there should have been about 5 minutes of stoppage time to be played and when the tv hit 70 minutes reset his watch to play 5 minutes. we could know get kerry in a qualifier instead of westmeath/wicklow. due to his lack of efficiency we are now really ******

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4196 - 09/06/2009 17:59:25    306549

Did anyone think Tyrone would win the all Ireland last year after they were bet by Down. Dublin created plenty of chances and on another day would of hammered us.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 590 - 09/06/2009 18:18:39    306568

Im absolutely amazed at the poor quality of this Dublin Meath match, what the hell happened like, Dublin should have been home and hosed at half time and if the truth be told meath only played about 5-10 decent minutes of football in the entire game and thats being very generous. If i was a dub i would be worried but not too worried because you can put that preformance down to rustiness and will probably push on to win leinster anyway but what for my own dear meath? Can we really expect that particular team to have any sort of decent run in qualifiers? Well i reckon unless we get some very handy draws then id have to categorically say no.

On the match itself:

1. Dublin fully deserved their victory.
2. The lack of extra time was competely insignificant.
3. Dublin should have really beaten Meath by 10pts+
4. O'Brien needs to seriously re-think his team selections because we're going to become a laughing stock again if he doesn't.
5. All in all in im a very disappointed royal, but sure thats football.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 09/06/2009 18:38:53    306595

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Is watches where broke so can he reset something that was broke but meath where lucky not to get beat by twenty minutes as it should have happened and you would have been glad he blew it early then.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 09/06/2009 19:01:39    306616

I am an unusual GAA fan, being born and brought up in Dublin but having been a Meath fan firstly, and a Dublin fan secondly, since 1983, largely due to family ancestry. The first games I remember were the Cork v Dublin All-Ireland football semi-final in Pairc Ui Caoimh which and the extraordinary street-fighting 12 man Dubs victory over Galway in the final. As such I can honestly say that I have never seen a poorer, more depressingly bad encounter between these once great counties than that which I saw last Sunday. If Dublin are to be of any threat to a good team this year they should have won this game by 12 points or more. As it was their attacks were directionless, their finishing from straight forward openings aimless, and their killer instinct for goal scoring opportunities bereft. That they were three times as good, as pacy and as alert to the breaking ball as Meath on the day says all one needs to know about Meath, alas. From 1983 to 2001, Leinster was without question the most competitive and best province for Gaelic football. Since then, with the demise of Meath, Kildare, and the seemingly irrevisible decline of Offaly in both hurling and football, Dublin have found themselves without serious opposition - I intend no disrespect here to the marvelous achievements of Laois and Westmeath in winning Leinster titles in 2003 and 2004, but their failure to capitalise on those breakthoughs and their subsequent return to mediocrity I think bear me out. It is clear that in order for Dublin to improve, Leinster football itself needs to improve, as it is now close to being the least competitive province in that the best two teams would not, on average, beat the best two from any of the other provinces at present.

Dublin's ongoing failing is a simple lack of method and a lack of purpose in both defence and attack. Their defence proved awful in the face of what little Meath were capable of mustering and they have not learned the lessons of their demolition at the hands of Tyrone last year - i.e. in the modern game against the best teams, half-forwards need to be ready, willing, and fit-enough to track their men back to their own full back line if necessary. In attack their failures are typified by the helter-skelter selfishness of their most talented and pacy forward, Alan Brogan. His complete lack of awareness of his team-mates means he spurns "team" goal scoring opportunities time after time. His three points from play were marred by as many speculative wides. Brogan's lack of footballing intelligence combined with his talismanic significance for Dublin in attack is perhaps the worst indictment of the county's approach to the game, under successive managerial regimes. Great and talented players - and Brogan is a highly talented player - make the players around them better players and imbue them with confidence. Brogan's effect is the opposite and that these deficienicies have not been rectified or addressed by the management reveals a serious lack of strategical purpose - let alone an inexcusable tolerance of vapid show-boating. This may seem very harsh on a good footballer but it is no less true for that. There is great deal more to say about the state Dublin, Meath and Leinster football generally but I will leave that to another time.

Meath1986 (Dublin) - Posts: 247 - 09/06/2009 19:16:59    306620

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Did anyone think Tyrone would win the all Ireland last year after they were bet by Down. Dublin created plenty of chances and on another day would of hammered us.


No we where wrote of on all corners but we had a great squad and once fully fit they could do anything meath have not as i think there rebuilding.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 09/06/2009 19:19:57    306623

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Thanks for giving us your opinion on the game and where are failings were sunday.But im sure Dublin have Manager selectors backroom staff and of course the players to rectify the situation in due course.

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 09/06/2009 20:42:39    306666