gilroy does not care about leinster he is chasing sam happy about today but a sam be a big ask

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 07/06/2009 23:53:18    304381

ya very bad game. Dubs alot better than Meath but meath stil cud have sneaked it like should have been at least 3 more minutes added on. Sheridan was brought on far too late. davoren looked farily good for dubs think his injury looked serious though dublin kicked so many simple wides they wont be as bad again prefer to see them playin rubbish now and winning then hammering meath lik they shud have

theoneandonlyJD (Dublin) - Posts: 84 - 08/06/2009 00:46:38    304410

Very poor quality game by two teams in transition. Dublin's 2nd half performance was disastrous, only 1 point scored from play against the worst Meath team I have every seen in my lifetime. Terrible.

The 2 minutes at the end were an absolute joke, how in the name of God can you only add 2 minutes when Davoren was down for at least 5 minutes and there were at least 9 substitutions plus other stoppages (e.g. ref consulting with umpires on at least 1 occasion for another 2 mins), crazy. I would be raging if I was a Royal. Reminds me of the the extra time vs Mayo in semis a few years ago, 3 minutes added, an injury to a Mayo player wasted at least 2 of those and not a second added on in a 1 point game in the AI semi. Joke.

Anyway, the positives are that Ger Brennan looks pretty solid at CHB and Bastick did well at full back, both have been major positional problems for Dublin. Creating 31 scoring chances in a game vs Meath means a scoring chance every 2 minutes or so (allowing for stoppages). That means we pretty much dominated the game and deserved to win, but they will have to bring the scoring boots next day or we're gone. At least there won't be any hype about the Dubs this year, the lower the profile the better.

Still ... its never a bad day to beat the Royals in Croker ... even playing in 1st gear.

Beacaire Gorm (Dublin) - Posts: 597 - 08/06/2009 00:47:01    304411

Dellboy, I wasn't so worried about him leaving out Whelan as it was well known in Dublin that he was carrying a calf strain. I am very worried that he didn't use Ryan. It was clear at the start of the second half that we needed a worker in midfield to carry the ball yet Gilroy choose a not fully fit Whelan over Ryan. It seems that Ryan's face just doesn't fit with the current management.

I'm also worried by the lack of control in our forwards. I thought the movement was very poor yesterday and their was a distinct lack of leadership. Sherlock improved things when he came on, making good runs, creating space for other forwards and laying off the ball well. I really believe he should be started the next day at centre half were he can act as a play maker.

Hochopepa (Dublin) - Posts: 42 - 08/06/2009 10:18:10    304500

is was poor match even for the neutrals to watch. but im sure the dubs happy enough to scrape through. they will improve the finishing ok but problem is the quality of opposition will improve too. thought it was poor meath team. think it could have been interesting if brennan was sent off in first half as he should have been. referee was poor in my opinion, bottled it on that one anyway. agree the 2 mins injury time was a joke. over 1 million euro in gate receipts yesterday in croke park?????? Surely that had nothing to do with that???????

ondditch100 (Wexford) - Posts: 12 - 08/06/2009 10:53:56    304547

Was at the game and if you look at the Dublin starting 15 and the game in general one wonders if they are really interested in the leinster title, I think Kildare are edging towards favourites to take the leinster trophy.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3213 - 08/06/2009 11:09:09    304573

The best thing about the game was the ref blowing the final whistle, complete rubbish from both teams. Junior football would be of a higher standard to what was served up yesterday by Dublin and Meath.

PJ (None) - Posts: 2288 - 08/06/2009 11:51:38    304626

I agree with most in saying that this was a very poor game of football. It's 10 years since Dublin looked that bad, and 30 since Meath did. Meath, in particular, were atrocious. Brian Farrell and, to a lesser extent, Anthony Moyles aside, they looked like a club side, full of one-footed players who had little idea of what they should be doing. It's hard to see them lasting long in the qualifiers, and really does make you wonder what has happened to Meath football in the last decade.

Dublin, while much the better side, were a big disappointment. A fairly poor league campaign was supposed to be the result of re-building a new team and finding some new players, but there was no evidence yesterday of any progress. A few weeks ago I read a quote from Bryan Cullen talking about how Dublin were trying to move away from the rigid game-plan they employed under Caffrey, and were looking to play a more 'off-the-cuff' game. I was worried for Dub fans when I read this, and yesterday showed why. It is all well and good a manager looking give his players freedom to move and think for themselves on the field, but limited footballers and newcomers need direction, and Dublin totally lacked this yesterday.

Dublin's forwards will, rightly get a lot of stick for their wide tally, but I still think that they have a reasonably good attack, particularly if Davoren's injury isn't as serious as first feared. He looked quite impressive in his first big start. Midfield is weak, and I struggle to see how McConnell and Magee are rated a better pairing than Ryan & Whelan. It is, however, in defence that Dublin still have the biggest problems. Individually, Hubbard was thrown about like a child by Cian Ward, and I've never rated Paul Griffin as highly as a lot of people seem to. Ger Brennan seems to think that his job is to charge around clattering into people. As a unit, it was worse, as there seemed to be no cohesion and they were pulled all over the place by a poor forward line.

Dublin will improve, but their fans will have to be very patient. A Leinster win must be the height of expectations this year, although Kildare will really fancy their chances now.

Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 08/06/2009 13:10:56    304723

Yawn! two average teams, dublin have to improve alot to win leinster never mind an all ireland!

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11697 - 08/06/2009 13:16:51    304732

Kildare are bound to be fancyin their chances big time...

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 08/06/2009 14:25:22    304843

kildare will win leinster

johnjoseph (Derry) - Posts: 158 - 08/06/2009 14:32:20    304857

Hochopepa
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Dellboy, I wasn't so worried about him leaving out Whelan as it was well known in Dublin that he was carrying a calf strain. I am very worried that he didn't use Ryan. It was clear at the start of the second half that we needed a worker in midfield to carry the ball yet Gilroy choose a not fully fit Whelan over Ryan. It seems that Ryan's face just doesn't fit with the current management.

I'm also worried by the lack of control in our forwards. I thought the movement was very poor yesterday and their was a distinct lack of leadership. Sherlock improved things when he came on, making good runs, creating space for other forwards and laying off the ball well. I really believe he should be started the next day at centre half were he can act as a play maker.


I think your right about ryan all star last year and not getting picked i feel he does not get on with gilroy.And to be honest depending on sherlock is bad .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 08/06/2009 16:41:16    305046

Midfield played well, backs played pretty well but forwards were way off target (17 wides). Still if you kick that many wides you are obviously creating a hell of a lot of chances and I don't think that this wide count will repeat itself. Not a dreadful performance when consider the players sitting on the bench. Hard to judge our credentials based on this one game but at the end of the day we won the match and that's all that counts. Kerry could have been knocked out of Munster at this stage but nobody would dare right them off for the title.

The referee was dreadful yesterday, for both teams. I think he dished out 7 or 8 yellows. Had he been reff'ing in Ulster there wouldn't have been a player left on the pitch. There should have been about 4 minutes added on at the end although he still played 2 mins 40 secs so I don't think that it would have swayed the result.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 08/06/2009 17:18:30    305138

I was at the trial game between the Dubs and Mayo a couple of weeks back and was mystified by what the Dubs m/ment were doing by sending out 32 players (including a full team change at half-time). They did the same thing apparently in their next challenge game against Down. They should have been working on refining their attacking play (or at least working out some tactics/ploys), and I think the 17 wides they kicked were at least partially down to not allowing a consistent attacking formation get used to a gameplan. To compensate, they won lots of possession... but you'd wonder what will happen when they start meeting sides who'll win a better share of the ball? Even in Leinster Westmeath, Kildare and poss Wexford (if they're up for it!) will win more ball than Meath did...

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 08/06/2009 17:38:48    305165

Kildare will not win Leinster or even come close to the Dubs, they are highly over rated. After the ref blew the final whistle the players played on and Meath got a point which would have left 1 between them. There should have been another 2 and a half minutes and who knows what could have happened.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 590 - 08/06/2009 17:43:22    305171

ye dublin were the better team. but they only managed 1 point in open play in the second half. we should have punished them for that and won it

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4196 - 08/06/2009 18:42:29    305259

Joxer
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I agree with your assement on the yellow cards as few of them only desreved to be noted but your half back should have walked for striking .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 08/06/2009 19:00:30    305272

Based on the performance of yesterday kildare would be well capable of beating an unorganised dublin team, wit no strucfture. Kildare backs and half backs would cause alot more problems for dublin forwards. also dublins old problem in defence is still visible and the likes off johnny smith kavanagh would exploit this! granted the dubs may improve.....surely they cant get much worse, but wit another game of either wicklow or westmeath behind them before the final they wont exactly be tested. Kildare are very focused well organised physical team. Based on yesterday the dubs are very beatable. I'm not buying into hype about kildare this yr, as all too often they have let us down.We have best chance this yr tho

Lilywhite82 (Kildare) - Posts: 13 - 08/06/2009 19:45:57    305314

Alan Brogan is class.Pure and simple.Dubs done enough to win.job done.

fredrickwood (Roscommon) - Posts: 2871 - 08/06/2009 20:46:04    305376

Joxer that might have something to do with the fact that Kerry are very good!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 08/06/2009 20:50:14    305387