Mitch80 what is it with Mayo posters and comments re Cork Hurling. I have never heard such consistent bunkum in my life. Ye have so many experts up there its a wonder yere not winning All Irelands year after year. re Aisake it is a big risk throwing him in at this level but I trust Denis Walsh, he has seen him at training etc. so if he is happy that he can do a job that's good enough for me. My main worry is at full back, I would have preferred if he had put Gardiner back and played McGann in the half back line.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 27/05/2009 12:51:22    295373

Well, I'll say one thing, It's best we are posting these comments on line, and not in a pub over a few cold ones or else there'd be war ;-)).
OK, I'll admit, I have no interest in hurling, and know very little about it, but i just had to post that comment to stir the pot.

Observer, I know abit about Kennelly and his brother, Noel who had a great spell with the Kerry U21s, and had a good run with the Seniors also.
To say I never played hurling/football, we'll i suppose you'll never know, but i went to a secondry school in Tuam, Co. Galway called St. Jarlaths a good few years back now...............what I learned about football there, will stay with me for the rest of life.

"Go back to sleep" Whoever said that???, Killkenny will blow everybody away again this year, that I do know.

Mitch80 (Mayo) - Posts: 53 - 27/05/2009 13:51:57    295469

I can see him causing tipp a bit of hassle to be honest

Concept82 (Wicklow) - Posts: 440 - 27/05/2009 14:38:20    295558

Aisake did play well for Na Piarsaigh in that county final. However, he did not shine for the Cork minors in the same way that Sean Og and setanta did. I agree with MaryM, he is there to do a job. To the guy that said Sean Og was a jack of all trades and master of none, maybe so but he is probably better than you, whoever you are sitting behind your computer screen. At least he is out there playing.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 27/05/2009 16:41:07    295741

was surprised to learn aisake named on the cork team, will reserve judgement on his performance until after the game (although i have no doubt he will be better than me and i play the game too). i too seen the programme in which aisake made clear his desire to be a paid sportsman. fair play to him if that is what he wants but not in hurling.

pig.ignorant (Derry) - Posts: 655 - 27/05/2009 20:23:38    295930

I have never seen Aisake play myself but I can only presume he must be good if he is keeping Naughtan on the bench. I know Leeside they see him as an kind of an impact sub but even so I don't think Cork can afford to not start him.

And is Neil Ronan injured or what?

Big problem I see with Cork is that their half-back line, midfield and half-forward line has not changed whatsoever in the last six years. Surely that is worrying for Cork supporters. When these lads finally do step aside, there is going to be huge gaps left in this Cork team.

Loyal2TheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 4522 - 28/05/2009 12:13:31    296417

Aisake gave the best performance of the Championship yesterday considering this lad was away for 4 years and not home that long.Aisake will gety better by the week and could be the find of the Championship for Cork.

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 01/06/2009 11:22:29    298629

I definatly agree with there.Being at the match & watching him torment Paul Curran was not a joy to watch.From where I was standing seemed everytime he got the ball he would get a score.Not bad for a fella who was away.Just relieved that he had not played much hurling or else he would have destroyed us im sure.Cork will be there in the last 4 after yesterdays performance.That strike seemed light years away yesterday.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 01/06/2009 12:15:49    298670

Loyal , I understand your point re the old reliables but that is true of all teams. Change comes everywhere and sometimes its so gradual you hardly notice it. Cork had a totally new full back line for most of yesterday's game and they held up magnificently. Maybe next year Sean Og might go but Gardiner,Curran, and Kenny are good for a few years yet, by the time one of them steps down O Hailpins replacement will probably be a Cork legend. Already we have Cathal Naughton as a ready made midfielder allowing Kenny to drop back and replace Sean Og if that is necessary. Our weakness is in the forwards with Ben O Connor being our only real top class act. On yesterdays performance I have a lot of hope for Aisake and Horgan and we just need a couple of more to step up to the plate and we have a serious team. Believe me we will still have a major say in this year's Championship and that will bring on the new guys a lot. Remember (I know through our own fault) we missed out on most of the National League, challenge games can't make up for that, a couple of more Championship Games and we will be as good as any team apart from Kilkenny.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 01/06/2009 13:01:02    298703

"The Man Mountain"

anyoneone that listened to the commentary of the Tipp Cork match knows what I'm on about

dubinlaois (Dublin) - Posts: 304 - 01/06/2009 19:42:22    298957

I do not think the performance was lacking yesterday, however, a cutting edge was. Tipperary had that. When we had them on the rack, we were not able to move in for the kill. Tipp on the other hand showed a real winning mentality, they withstood our onslaught and then found a final gear at the end and they pulled away.

Another major problem for Cork is the inability to mix or adapt our game. We have no Plan B which is leading us to make lots of silly and costly mistakes. After yesterday very few counties will worry about playing Cork. They will no we can hurl but that we are soft enough.

Please no more strike excuses either. That was our fault 100%. It had nothing to do with losing yesterday, as I said our hurling sharpness or fitness was not the problem, it was ruthlessness when required and an inability to vary things. Denis Walsh, getting cracking boy!

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 01/06/2009 21:56:44    299066

I only seen the highlights last night and Aisake looked lost to me. It was a gamble starting him and it did not pay off. He offered little to the Cork attack, in fact bar Ben O'Connor and Pat Horgan to an extent, none of the other forwards did a lot I thought. McCarthys best days are behind them. From looking at that last night, I'll be controversial and say there could be wholesole changes in the Cork forwards the next day, Cronin and Naughtan have to come in. Down the other end, Tipp have class, class and more class up front. McGrath, Kelly, Callinan, Corbett, they are the best around. It will take something special from Clare to beat this Tipperary team.

Loyal2TheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 4522 - 01/06/2009 22:08:25    299080

Serious talent as a target man with skill, like all the family.

He was causing Curran all sorts of problems, and Curran is one of the best.

With practice he could be top notch.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 01/06/2009 23:36:15    299176

He did well enough all things considered. A serious prospect but whether Cork as a whole will get to the last 4 is far from certain. It's only now they're finding their shape whereas Tip were much more connected and fluid overall. Before the game I'd been thinking that Munster was Corks' best chance at silverware this year and now that's no longer a prospect I think they should throw caution to the wind and play for enjoyment's sake. Who knows, after a qualifier or two they could emerge as contenders but for now my head tells me to temper my hopes for this year.

CorkieInKerry (Cork) - Posts: 93 - 02/06/2009 09:55:39    299311

Loyal Reading some of your posts you seem knowledgeable enough about hurling but I think you are wrong about Aisake. For a guy who has been years away from the game and thrown into his first Senior Inter County Championship Game He did very well, he could well emerge as a major player for Cork before the year is out.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 02/06/2009 10:09:26    299319

Maybe I am wrong corkcelt, I only seen the highlights. You would expect him to get better with more gametime obviously and he may end up playing a vital role in the Cork attack later in the year. But on Sunday the management took a gamble starting him - and in doing so left the likes of Naughtan, O'Sullivan, Ronan and Cronin on the bench - and it didn't look to me like he offered a whole lot. Perhaps there were encouraging signs that I did not see but solely on the game (and on what I seen), it was wrong to start him. Ben O'Connor was the only Cork forward to who really shone. But like I say, I maybe be wrong.

Loyal2TheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 4522 - 02/06/2009 11:51:18    299427

Much ado about nothing. Scored a point which I (a junior hurler) would have scored. Caught one other ball and that was it.Very impressive display from Cadogan though I would say

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 02/06/2009 12:19:45    299463

He was a handful alright. Anyone else amazed at how poor sean ogs sideline cuts were?

beer baron (Cavan) - Posts: 3916 - 02/06/2009 12:27:18    299475

Have to agree with you Pinkie, i though he was average at best. As far as i saw in the first half he was no trouble and second to everything. He played a hand pass through late in the second half which went the opposite way to where he wanted it. To be fair i don't think they played to his strength but all in all i was not too worried about him.

Codogan was mighty and showed they have lost nothing with the Rock. Tipp were more clinical in the finishing and really put it up to them in the half backs and half forwards in the early part of the match and had the experience to close it out. i am excited now for the rest of the summer as i really think if we get the right day our forwards could put it up to Kilkenny with a good slice of luck.

On the down side - the advantage rule needs to be looked at - McCarthys ruled out goal was embarrasing for the sport. Made no difference though as there was once out way in the first half where Eoin would surely have scored if he had been let on. Needs to be discussed and a sensible decision agreed.

EamonCorcoran (Tipperary) - Posts: 167 - 02/06/2009 13:56:00    299574

Aye have to agree too poor distribution from him and that should be a plus comming from ozzie rules as that a major part of the game. Could'nt believe some of the balls played into him one stage sean og was on the 40 clear scoring chance and he elected to lob it into aisake there was 15 minutes left at that stage.... madness. he won about 20% of the ball that went in. Cadagon had it easy webster stayed in the square and cadagon is a better hurler small full forward that wonders a bit may give him trouble he was skinned a few times in the league but yeah he looks a decent full back.

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 02/06/2009 15:17:13    299671