i reckon if mayo played in the ulster championship they would have anothercoupla all irelands,they are far too clean,mabye now with t mortimer as captain the rest will throw their muscle around like him

mucker (Donegal) - Posts: 479 - 05/05/2009 13:30:32    275158

If Mayo were in the Ulster Championship they wouldn't have won much as they haven't been physical enough. They'd just have become another Down or Donegal. Mortimor could be a good choice of captain and they have plenty of strength on this year's panel with Aidan O'Shea, Billy Joe Padden, Austin O'Malley, Ger Cafferkey, Ronan McGarrity etc.

eiregocroi (Cork) - Posts: 201 - 05/05/2009 15:54:41    275322

we are not nice!

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 05/05/2009 16:08:54    275339

If mayo played in the ulster championship they would have had 4 or 5 players beheaded over the last few years. In the west we play football. Ulster would be no place to try the likes of that

whiterbannnas (Mayo) - Posts: 2441 - 05/05/2009 16:15:27    275346

Well whatever type of football you are playing WB maybe its time to change it, hasnt brought much success!

sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1073 - 05/05/2009 16:23:55    275356

Honestly sean og, i would rather never win an all-ireland than to resort to physical and verbal abuse in order to win one. I mean that. The only way to win an all-ireland is to be the best footballing team in the country and to go out and prove it. How can there be any satisfaction in it otherwise. Go out and box your way to an all-ireland? Not for me

whiterbannnas (Mayo) - Posts: 2441 - 05/05/2009 16:32:23    275365

Box your way to an All Ireland.....look where it got you boys in 1996.

Fredthered (Donegal) - Posts: 1144 - 05/05/2009 16:39:29    275374

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If Mayo were in the Ulster Championship they wouldn't have won much as they haven't been physical enough. They'd just have become another Down or Donegal. Mortimor could be a good choice of captain and they have plenty of strength on this year's panel with Aidan O'Shea, Billy Joe Padden, Austin O'Malley, Ger Cafferkey, Ronan McGarrity etc.

I dont understand? Down & Cavan are Ulsters most successive footballing counties, they have won 5 all irelands.

irlande (Fermanagh) - Posts: 535 - 05/05/2009 16:41:03    275376

Maybe I missed something but whats all this verbal abuse being referred to?

gaelantrim (Antrim) - Posts: 1616 - 05/05/2009 17:55:02    275465

Well WB I believe that your wish will be granted, long may Mayo sit on the sidelines, slapping each other on the back as you stick by your 'principles' and tut tutting as those barbarians from the North head to Dublin in August/September with only one thing in mind, winning the Sam Maguire. Ha, Mayo & their principles, don't make me laugh!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 05/05/2009 20:54:51    275611

Mayo, and the recent Laois team, were a joy to watch. Pure football, and their unwillingness to "cheat" did count against them.

But that's the beauty of it. If I want Sam that much that I am prepared to do anything, including stealing it out of the Tyrone manager's house, then it is no longer football.

Mayo and Laois tried to win by playing the game, and deserve great credit for doing so. Win at all costs may get you trophies, but at what cost?

Judging by these hallowed pages a lot of vitriol from elsewhere is the cost.

And well spotted the thing about Cavan and Down. Cavan WERE Ulsrter football for 60 years, and then supplanted by Down for the next 40 years.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 05/05/2009 21:06:30    275624

Mayo are a bit like boxing sparring partners. They will test you for a wee while but don't have the class or staying power for the real deal. Give them their dues because listening to some of their posters on HS you would think they were winning SAM every year. They are also like one of those wee toy guns that shoots out a flag that says "POP" when you pull the trigger. It wasn't pretty watching Meath batter them all over Croker in 96. They didn't have the stomach for it and it showed.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 05/05/2009 22:35:43    275700

mayo should tak da game as it comes, like last yr when armagh got physical wid wexford, wexford gave it bak twice as hard, instead of running into corners wen da game gets tough!!!!!!

airmax (UK) - Posts: 56 - 05/05/2009 22:36:33    275702

I think the problem with the Mayo footballers is that they have more players with their hair tyed up or with bleach jobs done than their ladies team. Actually, the ladies team would probably beat them off the field.

Marty Morrissey (Donegal) - Posts: 29 - 05/05/2009 23:08:43    275751

unwillingness to "cheat"

I think it was a lack of knowledge on how to cheat that held them back not an unwillingness. I mean our team of 96 would have won the all Ireland if we had known how to give as well as we got. It wasnt an inflated opinion of ourselves which held us back.

trileacman (Tyrone) - Posts: 759 - 05/05/2009 23:11:18    275754

To some of the tyrone posters above, the last few minutes of our match against ye last year ye resorted to holding onto the ball to eat up time, not very sportsmanlike but it got ye where ye wanted to be! We have beaten ye plenty of times in recent years, but as the saying goes - nice guys finish last. Saying that we are never far off the pace and our day will come.............soon...........I hope!

Spuddy (Mayo) - Posts: 345 - 05/05/2009 23:38:46    275786

Are Mayo too nice?

Mayo are the only team that I know of to ever bully the Dubs out of the hill 16 end of Croke Park. 2006 it was All-Ireland semi- final it was an absolute joy to watch I hope that goes some way to answering your question mucker............... NAUGHTY BUT NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

squidword (Louth) - Posts: 2897 - 05/05/2009 23:45:15    275796

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unwillingness to "cheat"

I think it was a lack of knowledge on how to cheat that held them back not an unwillingness. I mean our team of 96 would have won the all Ireland if we had known how to give as well as we got. It wasnt an inflated opinion of ourselves which held us back.



That is what I am saying. The Tyrone team of 1996 were magnificent, I was at every game, and as a journalist at the time told everyone they were a cert for the All Ireland.

However Meath battered them. And were allowed to.

Now I reckon Belfast could probably win a no holds barred battering all Ireland. Alas we cannot win a football one.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 06/05/2009 00:24:15    275819

Ulsterman, what are you on??? And your from where??? Antrim,,what do you play in Antrim??? If Mayo are a sparring partner, then Antrim must be the spit bucket carriers, always on the outside and far away from the action. Meath v Mayo 1996, I dont know what game you were watching, we lost the match for two reasons, 1. a goalie who couldnt judge a bouncing ball, 2. John Casey cracked under pressure. "Meath beat us around the place",,you can ask any of the Meath boys that day like McDermott, Fay, McGuinness, Giles and Gerathy who they beat around the place in Croke Park?, they wont mention the names of David Brady, Colm Macmenamin, Noel Connelly, Ken Mortimor, Ray Dempsey and PJ Loftus, well put it this way, the Meath keeper Conor Martin will never forget David Brady.........watch the replays lad. But in saying that, the current Mayo team are too nice, the above mantioned players, who are from my playing era, and some of who i know personally had what was needed, hatred for their opponents, agression, power, strenght and they were all handy footballers.................these guys are well respected and well missed in Mayo these days.

Mitch80 (Mayo) - Posts: 53 - 06/05/2009 06:36:33    275856

whiterbannnas County: Mayo Posts: 1075 275365 Honestly sean og, i would rather never win an all-ireland than to resort to physical and verbal abuse in order to win one. I mean that. The only way to win an all-ireland is to be the best footballing team in the country and to go out and prove it. How can there be any satisfaction in it otherwise. Go out and box your way to an all-ireland? Not for me _____________________________________ If you mean that i respect it. There have been times when iv been watching tyrone that i am so thankful i am not from there. Take for example the image of mcmahon screaming in walshes face in the AI final last year (think he ahd just won a free of him or he had missed a shot). OK they won, but they're slowly losing respect along the way.

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 06/05/2009 09:14:13    275875