Not involved with politics at all Pat. As you know it's crooked on both sides of the border. A bit like horseracing it depends on whose turn it is to win.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 11/10/2008 17:22:44    117381

any of ye hear O'Gara's comments on SSN Friday night? Munster people dont care about Ireland, Munster is their country and they dont support Ireland. As a Limerick Dweller for many years now and an avid Munster fan, i was livid. This fella is a great player, but shouldn't have made such a statement. Imagine the furore if BOD said it about Leinster! The people of the south would be organising marches to take the captaincy off him. And to be honest, as a semi Limerick man, I can say with 100% certainty, its BS! Maybe in Cork it might be true, peoples republic and all, but not in Limerick, not in the REAL Munster heartland!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 13/10/2008 11:54:39    117842

Those comments by O Gara prob sold him another few thousand extra copies of his book

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 13/10/2008 14:14:40    117965

Personally cant wait to read ROG's book! I never thought much of the fella to be honest, always thought he was very boring but some of the extracts i've seen look very juicy and its getting good reviews! Anyone see Lewsey lamp that Cipriani fella?

Rio Bingo (Tyrone) - Posts: 788 - 13/10/2008 14:48:49    117992

Spot on liam. Unfortunately that attitude does exist..in fans and in the players im afraid. It doesnt seem to mean as much to some of the munster players/fans to win with their country. And that should be the be all and end all. But no one wants to upset the bandwagon. Sky sports want to keep their darling team and keep hyping it up. I mean the heineken cup is only five minutes old. The six/five nations is the real institution but it has been sidelined by this guff of a 'journey' for munster. One that lasted about 5 years. The real passion should be for the national team. Has it somethin to do with the anthems issue? Does it not make us feel as irish as the soccer team? Anyway roll on the six nations....

mayonews (Mayo) - Posts: 254 - 13/10/2008 15:12:48    118011

Outrageous remarks alright! You wouldn't hear any of the Ulster lads saying anything like that :-)

JayoCluxton (Dublin) - Posts: 2688 - 13/10/2008 15:26:16    118020

13/10/2008 11:54:39
Liamwalkinstown
County: Dublin
Posts: 919

... And to be honest, as a semi Limerick man ...

This nearly made me choke on my sherry!!
I'm half Limerick myself Liam (The auld doll is from Newcastlewest) so I've always a soft-spot for them.

RMDrive (Donegal) - Posts: 2202 - 13/10/2008 15:34:19    118036

One a half Lim half Dub the other a half Lim half Donegal .............. and they went public about it! Struth!

JayoCluxton (Dublin) - Posts: 2688 - 13/10/2008 15:47:33    118059

Here is one that usually draws an argument!
Morrissey - Legendary genius or whingy tool ?!?!
For me the man is a music and cultural GOD!

Last night I dreamt....somebody loved me....... !! GENIUS!!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 15/10/2008 09:57:36    119285

I wouldn't go as far as call "Marty Morrissey" a Genius yet!!!

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 15/10/2008 10:36:02    119318

Morrissey - Legendary genius or whingy tool ?!?!

I'd consider him to be a "whingy tool" tbh, so myself and Morrissey a have something in common at least. I like some of the smiths stuff but find most of his solo stuff very average, pub band music. So many people are fanatical about him though, so he must be doing something right.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12387 - 15/10/2008 10:42:19    119326

Good to see Darren Gibson starting tonight. Alot of respect for him for fighting to play for his country (and before you say it patrique, by his country i mean by where his heart belongs), also hes another Derry Lad:). Good luck to him and the rest, a win tonight would be a great result, might start to get a bit excited then.

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 15/10/2008 12:36:43    119407

Ya best of luck to the boy gibson tonight it could all rest on him. Lets get the bandwagon moving!

mayonews (Mayo) - Posts: 254 - 15/10/2008 12:43:02    119417

Gibson is the first Northern Ireland born player to play for Ireland in 71 years. Surprised me! It was in the Sun today so it must be true.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12387 - 15/10/2008 12:55:55    119427

Just going back to the whole ROG and Munster/Ireland debate, is it not also the case for our GAA/Compromised Rules players?

Some players prefer to play with their clubs and win rather than their counties and win. I've heard the line; "Ah winning with the parish means more cos I've grown up with these lads" more times than not. Some prefer to play with their counties and win than their country and win, eg. lads pulling out of the Compromised Rules team. Same difference! Sure Tommy Walsh and/or Killian Young will pull out to play with their club. And Sean Cavanagh probably (just my opinion) would have as well if he wasn't captain.

O' Gara feels that with Munster it's more of a close knit family thing. Playing, training and travelling all over Europe with lads you've known all the way up from roughly 17 years of age until your mid 30s. With Ireland the team selections and infrequent matches/training do not create a "family atmosphere".

I'm sure soccer is the same. Players probably get on better with their club mates rather than international team mates. Ask Stephen Ireland.

So don't give me this story that ROG is some sort of "traitor" because he feels his allegiance lies with Munster rather than Ireland.

3inarow08 (Kerry) - Posts: 2455 - 15/10/2008 13:23:22    119449

Breff, you read the Sun!!!!! Oh lord! Do u read the Daily Mail too?!?!?!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 15/10/2008 13:48:40    119475

Anyone headin to the match later?. Have me tickets here, and rollin out of work at 5.00. Across to the Octoberfest in the IFSC for a couple of liters of good German beer (?10 a pop) and then down to Croker.

derfil1 (Kildare) - Posts: 1612 - 15/10/2008 14:56:02    119532

Breffni39
County: Cavan
Posts: 145

119427 Gibson is the first Northern Ireland born player to play for Ireland in 71 years. Surprised me! It was in the Sun today so it must be true.
where was alan kernaghan born

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 15/10/2008 14:59:28    119534

where was alan kernaghan born
dhorse , 15/10/2008 at 14:59
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West Yorks!!!

JayoCluxton (Dublin) - Posts: 2688 - 15/10/2008 15:20:47    119558

I have to say I agree with Grumpy last night! Our centre of midfield was non-existent and we were blessed to win. Against Italy we'd have been hammered. Its alright for the manager of Spain or Italy to have a tiff with a star player - plenty of cover - not so, Ireland. A pair of rookies in the centre with two better midfielders on the bench is not on. Add in the matter of Stephen 'anyone but' Ireland and you see how short we are in key areas. We will lose players through injuries, suspensions etc but we cannot afford to not play the best players we have. We did not do that last night. What we may have in Mr Trap is a very lucky manager - for a change.

JayoCluxton (Dublin) - Posts: 2688 - 16/10/2008 08:49:12    120089