Who is Wexfords up an coming star from under 14 up to minor at both codes. In my opinion its John Leacy at both codes. I no he's injured for the rest of the year but fit and ready he is a fantastic up an coming player. Who else is there?

mondred (Wexford) - Posts: 872 - 02/04/2009 20:06:24    246831

At Minor Level, I'd have to go for Declan Murphy of Horeswood, and Matt O'Hanlon of St. James's, Declan was on the minor football last year and was asked to be on the Hurling as well, Matt was on both. Both are underage again this year, and both are on the Good Counsel Teams this year. Both will probably end up focusing on football as there clubs don't really hurl that much.

JFK (Wexford) - Posts: 590 - 03/04/2009 08:09:19    247095

For the good of Wexford hurling it could be time to put a New Ross divisional team together to take part at Senior level - leaving the other New Ross sides to fight it out at intermediate level at the highest.

Let's face it - none of them are strong enough since to compete since Fethard got relelgated - Cushinstown were promotoed a few years back but barely managed to thread water.

You could have a team with Paddy Whitty, Matthew O'Hanlon, Mark Molloy, Eanna Martin, Declan Murphy, Michael O'Hanlon, Mark Wallace, MJ Cooper, etc.
It will probably never happen due to bigger clubs like Oulart and Rathnure blocking at at Co Board level - and the pride of some the the clubs like Cushinstown and Fethard.

I'd argue that without divisional sides in Kerry and Cork theere are many players that would have completely slipped under the radar - eg Joe Deane.

Croppy_Boy (Wexford) - Posts: 45 - 03/04/2009 11:12:00    247227

Ross Lynch at the Faythe Harrier's,or Eoin Moore at Oulart in hurling.Gary Byrne at Maudlintown has a great future in gaelic football if he's not fighting for Ireland in London in the next olympic's

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 03/04/2009 12:16:34    247314

There 100% should be divisional teams croppy boy. I agree fully with you. However, I think that in Wexford you're not considered at all unless youre with a Senior team. Like Eanna and Mark Molloy were good hurlers leaving minor and yet they have never been given a look in for the county panel. If you look at other counties where there are no divisional teams, their success depends on Junior and Intermediate clubs. For example in Tyrone, their football team has loads- Cavanagh, Dooher, Jordan etc are not from Senior teams. In fact, one of the Senior fnalists last year didnt have a single county panellist. This has been going on in Wexford for years and years. Only in rare cases have intermediate clubs had any representation, e.g Gorey.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2580 - 03/04/2009 12:30:53    247330

I know what you are saying but i'm not sure I agree. I'm slowly coming around to the idea of a New Ross district team, but history tells us they dont work and become political and cause in-fighting over supposed "favouritism" for players from certain clubs. It does happen. And given the current fixtures problem we have every year I think this may make matters worse - if lads have to line out for senior football, district hurling, and junior hurling along with inter-county games - good luck to you working the fixtures out!
I totally disagree with you that non-senior teams dont get a chance. Askamore, Marshalstown, Gorey, New Ross and Monagear have/had all had players on the team or panel in recent years. Andrew Shore is getting his chance this year. The problem we have now is that the tail end of senior is so weak that one top player can keep a team in senior. I dont mean this as an insult to Monagear, but once Marty Kelly went to play football with Wexford youths the next year they were relegated - correct me if im wrong. And this is how weak the lower end of the senior championship is.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 03/04/2009 13:04:24    247365

Shane Tomkins of Askamore. Not sure if he is still minor but he is the real deal.

Kilanerinfooty (Wexford) - Posts: 200 - 03/04/2009 13:15:33    247376

Not sure if the idea of a New Ross divisional hurling team is feasable. Firstly, it would cause yet more fixture congestion. I know it's been done in other counties, but it would mean we'd have to start the championships even earlier, not sure if that's a good idea. Secondly, I'm not sure if it'd be welcomed by any of the clubs in the district. Cushinstown worked hard to gain Senior status & wouldn't want to give that up, Fethard were Senior until a few years ago too & I'm sure would like to reach Senior on their own steam again.

There have also been a number of amalgamations between Ross District clubs at underage (out of necessity) & they haven't always run smoothly. There is massive rivalry between the clubs in the District & a combined team would be very difficult to run to the satisfaction of everyone - we could have the situation of players dropping out of the squad because they are unhappy at either they themselves or a friend & clubmate being left out of the team.

Also I believe there are many great coaches & volunteers who give their time promoting hurling in the Ross District, coaching the under 10s in the various clubs, etc. Let them do their work & keep the coaches coming around to the schools, just because the New Ross District is not a hurling heartland I don't feel that it's necessary to create a Divisional team at Senior level. The very furthest this should go is an amalgamated team (or maybe two teams) at minor & u21 level.

I don't suppose anyone would try to suggest an amalgamation between, say, Buffers Alley & Oulart in football, two Junior teams, for the good of Wexford football?!

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 03/04/2009 13:51:03    247413

james breen one of the best up and coming stars in the county he,s on both good counsel teams and is a player who can play anywhere backs or forward he,s one to watch for the future if he,s not messed about like all i county panels do

wexman85 (Wexford) - Posts: 65 - 03/04/2009 14:53:03    247485

I'd have to say the same should be done in Wexford District outside the few strong clubs that are here. I think they should have maybe a South East Wexford team by combining the likes of Rosslare, Our ladies Island, Fintans and Kilmore together. I think they'd only go in at intermediate but they'd have the chance to progress if they could get it together. Something needs to be done. Travel is nolonger an issue so it shouldn't be a big problem anymore to amalgimate a few parishes to strenghten them. I know there would be rivalry there but if it was done in such a way that the manager was from outside and then a selector from each, something could surely be worked out. At underage I think this would be very relevant. The likes of Kilmore, Our ladies Island are lucky to have one or two decent hurlers on an underage team. Their potential is lost forever because of a lack of interest and if they'e no other decent players around them they will never improve.. Maybe just for hurling alone new boundaries could be set to try and improve things.

ColinWex (Wexford) - Posts: 901 - 03/04/2009 22:08:47    247930

in minor anyway d annes hav liam og mcgovern hu is excellent also gorey hav two excellent lads in simon doran and dara mcdonald

bill98 (USA) - Posts: 18 - 03/04/2009 23:37:06    247998

divisional teams in other counties dont cause fixture congestion. In most counties with divisional sides players will play two games a week often lining out with their clubs on a friday night and with their divisional side on the sunday or monday. This system often works against the divisional sides where excluding Kerry, the divisional sides rarely feature past the quarter final stage. Therefore most senior clubs are at an advantage when playing divisional sides so why complain? Realistically there is also very little infighting in the divisons over players not being picked because a players club will still come first and divisional sides often suffer from players pulling out of their squads.

theclawhammer (Wexford) - Posts: 240 - 04/04/2009 00:25:29    248024

how did ''most promising young hurlers'' go to ''divisional teams eh ?

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 04/04/2009 01:22:01    248045

03/04/2009 14:53:03
wexman85
County: Wexford
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james breen one of the best up and coming stars in the county he,s on both good counsel teams and is a player who can play anywhere backs or forward he,s one to watch for the future if he,s not messed about like all i county panels do

Why wasn't he on the county minor hurling team last year?

mondred (Wexford) - Posts: 872 - 04/04/2009 10:54:28    248101

Bill 98.....U must be joking Simon Doran?.........

macca91 (Offaly) - Posts: 19 - 04/04/2009 16:30:04    248212

If your fromOffaly Macca how do you know Simon Doran? Go back to your own county pages and stop dissing young lads of about 17-18, or change your county to wexford please.

Kilanerinfooty (Wexford) - Posts: 200 - 04/04/2009 21:02:30    248314

James Breen was sought after over and over again last year for the Minor hurling team. As he was in his final year then ( since back repeating ) he felt there would not be enough time to play everything & subsequently opted for the minor football team.

badbob (Wexford) - Posts: 23 - 06/04/2009 13:39:55    249410

well said badboy he actually fell out with the hurling panel because he wore the wrong shirt and was given out to so he told them where to go. wexfoird nmight go somewhere in underage as the right players will play james breen is a brilliant hurler and footballer who if treated right will walk onto our county panals any day he hurled andrew shore off the pitch in the junior final 2 years ago kept him to one point from play

wexman85 (Wexford) - Posts: 65 - 06/04/2009 21:43:41    250172

sorry ment badbob there

wexman85 (Wexford) - Posts: 65 - 06/04/2009 22:21:33    250215

Dats an unusual story wexman85 because i heard he got chastised for not wearing his wexford gear at a meal with the MINOR FOOTBALLERS. In fact i heard he was on de hurling panel for a while but quit to concentrate on football as HE WASNT MAKING THE HURLING TEAM. Correct me if im wrong wexman85, perhaps u cud check with the player in question?

ricky (None) - Posts: 86 - 07/04/2009 14:42:25    250859