To mention Laois or westmeath in the same line as 'best dual counties' is a joke. Cork and Galway are the only contenders with Dublin for the future and offaly in the past. I think offaly deserve special mention considering their size and what they did in the early 80's...hurling in 81 and football in 82. Amazing.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 708 - 31/03/2009 21:52:20    244930

I feel for the Kilkenny Footballers Div4 each week these lads go out and play what feels like a foreign game to them ,is the GAA insisting on this experiment? Jesus give them their Hurls back and let them play a game that they love.

DynamoDooher (Tyrone) - Posts: 423 - 01/04/2009 02:52:18    245100

DynamoDooher I agree with you. Football in Kilkenny is ridiculous. While I have great respect for the lads who get thumped week in week out it is cringe television when you see the results coming in. I suppose what people don't unnderstand is that Kilkenny is actually a very small county and even in hurling terms we are punching well above our weight with only 12 senior and 12 intermediate club teams.
For those who don't know the football set up in Kilkenny, it works like this. League starts in early March with 8 senior and intermediate teams. These are broken up into 2 groups of 4 playing 3 games each with top team in each group qualifying for the league final. All league finals are played next weekend. Championship is knock out obviously and will be played and completed by the end of this month. There you go...championship and league run off in 8 weeks with 7 games max to be played and thats if you win both competitions. How's that for efficiency......or for a joke.

Basically football is played as a way to get fit for hurling. Also bear in mind the team that wins the county championship then has to wait 6 months before they play in the Leinster Club Championship and will probably start "Trainig" for that 2 weeks before they are due to play.
Personally I think that Kilkenny should withdraw from all football and start development squads from U-12 upwards...the very same as they do with hurling. If you get young lads playing the game regularly at this age they will actually get to like it and then and only then when the first development squad reaches minor level do they start entering competitions again.

solo (Kilkenny) - Posts: 314 - 01/04/2009 10:01:13    245157

Dual County

Would that mean players play both Games or the degree of success.

That would mean Cork in sucess terms.

In Galway There are distinct hurling and football areas and apart from one or two exceptions very few dual inter county areas.

Cork has a football west a hurling east & north east and a dual middle and many dual inter county players.

Tipp has a football south Versus the hurling rest apart from a few exceptions.

Dublin has many potential dual players

Offaly has a Football north and hurling west and a sort of dual middle.

One of the Biggest Dual counties is Wexford where almost every club has a football and hurling team . There might be a hurling preference or football preference .

The question of most sucessful dual county might give one answer ie Cork. but a county with biggest dual participation it could be Wexford or Limerick or tipp or laois etc.

My obervations of my own county is that the only hurling club with no adult football is oulart. The fathyte Harriers are hurling only but their players play football with football only clubs like sarsfields or St Josephs. Every rural clb apart from Oulart are dual.

So wexford must come close to the biggest dual participation.

Mucksavage (Wexford) - Posts: 69 - 01/04/2009 13:58:34    245395

At the minute i reckon Galway. Tipperary/ Cork a few years back

Plastic Paddy (Tyrone) - Posts: 664 - 01/04/2009 15:00:48    245451

1.Galway
2.Cork
3.Wexford
4.Dublin
5.Offaly

Gaillimh2 (Galway) - Posts: 155 - 01/04/2009 17:42:14    245649

Mucsavage, are Oulart a "hurling only" club ? Is that why they withdrew from the county HURLING league ?

yellabelly (Wexford) - Posts: 1062 - 01/04/2009 17:48:36    245655

Id go for Galway ahead of Cork..Cork are good at both but arn't grat at either...

keep_the_faith (Meath) - Posts: 400 - 01/04/2009 21:07:27    245777

Joe Canning

phuket (Galway) - Posts: 18 - 01/04/2009 23:06:41    245922

ur right solo got 2 b the cats for hurling and handball success!

richiescats (USA) - Posts: 420 - 02/04/2009 01:04:08    246021

cork obviously

then galway and offaly

its common knowledge. this thread is pointless

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4162 - 03/04/2009 00:30:12    247068

bad.monkey
County: USA
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It is Cork. Followed by Galway, Dublin, Wexford & Offaly

spot on there lad....

sheepshooter (Meath) - Posts: 626 - 03/04/2009 17:30:09    247683

cork at the top followed by gallimh, dublin , wexford offaly limerick and clare

down1991 (Clare) - Posts: 90 - 03/04/2009 22:45:09    247960

Cork would be the best on both codes with wexford then .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 03/04/2009 23:19:29    247982

For consistency over the years, Cork are number 1 with Galway in second place. In the '80s, Offaly were very strong in both codes. Up until the 1940s or so, Dublin were the strongest dual county.

Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 1034 - 04/04/2009 07:55:39    248074

galway

orange and blue (Tyrone) - Posts: 1080 - 04/04/2009 10:40:24    248095

galway for sure

beer baron (Cavan) - Posts: 3916 - 04/04/2009 11:21:47    248120