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Your in denial but i understand lol.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 05/04/2009 18:35:46    248607

united over the last few months have been unbelievably lucky. and today aswell. ronaldo even luckier again. bar the goals his onfield play was terrible again. cause of villas second goal. lost count of the amount of times he lost the ball trying to go around players. and then he gets a goal and all his terrible play is forgotten and is hyped up as the best of the world. its a complete joke. going by that logic inzagi one of the lasiet players of all time should have been world player of the year a few years back when he netted 30 something goals. the hype around ronaldo is a joke at the moment. he has nothing on messi but yet beats him to world player

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4174 - 05/04/2009 19:16:03    248642

Money was the be-all and end-all for Serie A a few years ago and once it dried up, the league is in free fall.


Exactly, but they played nicer FOOTBALL, with less emphasis on running. No-one believes foreigners are in England now for climate, culture or cuisine, so that leanves money.

When it dries up it will be back to the Robbie Savages of this world, and Roy Keanes.


As to Ronaldo (Portugal). Best player in the world? Portugal's results would decry that. His record in big games would decry that. His record for Portugal would decry that.

He now wants to go to the biggest club in the world, where I think he will struggle. In one year's time Dell I would like to hear your views.


And of course I am jealous of Tyrone. I would love to support a team that had intermittent success.

The constant success enjoyed by my own county gets boring. Yet another All Ireland title yesterday, and by a North Antrim team. Boring.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 05/04/2009 19:37:53    248658

As to Ronaldo (Portugal). Best player in the world? Portugal's results would decry that. His record in big games would decry that. His record for Portugal would decry that. and his awards from all of last year would cry out he's the best ever

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 05/04/2009 21:46:38    248821

dell ronaldo is a smashing player but we all watch english football and read the english tabloids the english media is the biggest in the world , i would think messi kaka and henry would be better and the best player at united would be vidic but best attacking player rooney and he gets that from his irish side

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 05/04/2009 21:55:16    248829

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The players you mentioned are all world class players and yes vidic is improving all the time as well but i feel ronaldo is the best in the world . But you are right in a way those you said are up there with him no doubt.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 05/04/2009 22:15:23    248855

Even when he has a poor game like today, Ronaldo always has the ability to score crucial goals like the two he took well today, that's what sets him apart from the vast majority. What about the goal from the young lad though, what a debut!

mid-mon man (Monaghan) - Posts: 1680 - 05/04/2009 23:36:05    248960

you's are all missing the point. goals dont make you the best. it dosnt effect his terrible on field play. where was the greatest player in the world against milan 2 years ago when his teams back were against the wall. nowhere in sight just like 90% of his games against the big teams. where was he against liverpool when the tempo was raised. nowhere to be seen again. a nothing player when he's up against it. very lucky today also. he probably lost the ball more times this match than messi did all season. messi was also put in the playmakers role 2 years ago for his country when riquelme was out and they destroyed all opposition with messi winning man of the matches on several occassions. yes barca lost to united last year but messi rose to the occassion, AGAIN ronaldo did not. scholes saved united from what would have been a hammering if only barca had a striker who could score at the time. but be sure if they get them again it will be a hammering. messi will be centre to the victory also as he always is

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4174 - 06/04/2009 00:13:51    248998

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and his awards from all of last year would cry out he's the best ever


Awards? Awards are given to winning teams, not the best players. This year Giggs, Van Der sar, and probably that lad today will all be featured and hailed as Footballer of the year, but anyone watching the premiership this year can see that Stephen Ireland is the outstanding player. He won't be short listed.

Rooney can do it at international level, and the best player in Manchester, never mind the world, is Robinho, who is Brazil's star these days. Yes BRAZIL.

Messi however is the man.

Ronaldo is a very good player in England, come back to me after La Liga finishes next year and I will give you an update on him.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 06/04/2009 00:47:46    249027

gerrard is the best player in the world at the minute.. even zidane thinks so!!! forget about ronaldo who is only concerned with his hair etc. yes he is a great player who scores a lot of goals but he doesnt put in as half as much effort as gerrard who has the whole package.. goals, assists, tackling and without doubt the best leadership..

budlight (Tyrone) - Posts: 540 - 06/04/2009 09:46:05    249113

I think Fergie answered my question yesterday...

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 06/04/2009 10:24:29    249143

patrique County: Antrim Posts: 2749 249027 Duffy89 County: Wexford Posts: 639 and his awards from all of last year would cry out he's the best ever Awards? Awards are given to winning teams, not the best players. This year Giggs, Van Der sar, and probably that lad today will all be featured and hailed as Footballer of the year, but anyone watching the premiership this year can see that Stephen Ireland is the outstanding player. He won't be short listed. This can be interpreted as "The player who wins player of the year, should not be from the team I hate, but from the team I support" It doesn't matter how clever you try to make it sound thats what you mean. Rooney can do it at international level, and the best player in Manchester, never mind the world, is Robinho, who is Brazil's star these days. Yes BRAZIL. Why are you still labouring under the impression that Ronaldo doesn't do it at international level? He consistently does it at every level against the top teams. Step into the real world and you might see that. Messi however is the man. I'd imagine when he wins world player of the year, you'll disregard him and say xavi or iniesta should have won it and "winning teams win awards, not players" Ronaldo is a very good player in England, come back to me after La Liga finishes next year and I will give you an update on him. I literally can not wait

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12439 - 06/04/2009 10:25:14    249144

Exactly, but they played nicer FOOTBALL, with less emphasis on running. No-one believes foreigners are in England now for climate, culture or cuisine, so that leanves money.

When it dries up it will be back to the Robbie Savages of this world, and Roy Keanes.

And the Gattusos, Ambrosinis, Dacourts, Cambiassos etc etc etc

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12439 - 06/04/2009 10:37:25    249160

not after yesterdays result

JohnGrace1989 (Donegal) - Posts: 472 - 06/04/2009 10:58:11    249195

Ronaldo was shocking yesterday. Yet he scored 2 goals. If you were picking Fergies greatest ever 11 at Man United, he would not get into the team ahead of Beckham. He will be a Real Madrid player next season and United wont get anywhere near the 140m they could have got last summer.

denzel (None) - Posts: 452 - 06/04/2009 11:14:58    249219

Patrique, why is football nicer with less running? Who says that this is what football should be like? It was invented in england after all... Why is keeping the ball with pretty looking skills better than using ur strength? They both have the same end result, and I would argue that strength and pace gives better returns... You make these guys sound like they couldnt hit a barn door when actually they have an excellent touch... If these 'super skillful players' are so good then surely they show be able to outwit the marauding english leaguers every time? But how often have we seen 'superstars' not able to cope with the english league? Using skills and using strength are both fair tactics, there is nothing illegal about either, hence they are part of the game. If some guys cant handle that then they are not complete players... You mention robinho as the best player in the world, but I would have alan shearer in my team ahead of him every time...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 06/04/2009 12:41:12    249356

over the previous few years the english teams have been unbelievably lucky against foreign teams. chelsea were outplayed by juve this year, inter outplayer utf, arsenal beat roma on peno's. last year barca were probably involved in the unluckiest game of their history. same, two years previously when they lost to chelsea. villareal completely outplayed arsenal in 07 but lost missing about 10 good chances. liverpool against milan in the 06 final. utd in the 99 final after being thrashed on the field get two of the luckiest goals ever. the english teams havnt been better they have been luckier. FACT

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4174 - 06/04/2009 13:52:30    249436

Being a United fan, I hope we get rid of him in the summer. He can score goals for fun against the likes of West Brom, Hull etc... but when it comes til the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool etc... he's not there atall. When he loses the ball he doesnt track back while Tevez and Rooney work their socks off to get the ball back. We should have sold him last year when the big money was on the table. We didnt and now he should go in the summer before he loses even more value with his useless performances.

And Fergie, sign up Tevez....

Plastic Paddy (Tyrone) - Posts: 664 - 06/04/2009 14:12:57    249470

32_4_1, you could also argue that juve and inter looked okay but couldnt put the ball in the net, same with villareal, whereas milan and bayern conceding all those late goals the way they did shows that they are poor defensively, and maybe not all they are cracked up to be... 'FACT' You appear to have perceived the games to suit ur opinion... How can english teams be lucky all the time? Is it their accent?

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 06/04/2009 15:16:02    249576

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249219 Ronaldo was shocking yesterday. Yet he scored 2 goals.
If you were picking Fergies greatest ever 11 at Man United, he would not get into the team ahead of Beckham.
He will be a Real Madrid player next season and United wont get anywhere near the 140m they could have got last summer.

What about number 7 denzel? :)

He did have a poor game alright, but like you say two good goals!! You could be right about Utd missing out on 140millin though.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12439 - 06/04/2009 15:24:33    249589