Howshesuttin you argument for the mark doesn't make sense. If a player takes a mark, it is similar to taking a kickout, only further up the field. Therefore you would still have players bunching from the mark kick. The only difference is they would be bunching further up the field. How is this a benefit?

I think allowing the ball to be picked from the ground is a great idea. Should speed up and open up play.

Deirin (None) - Posts: 27 - 02/04/2008 01:45:59    1560

The Mark between the 65's would only lead to more negative play as players would box the ball rather than let their opposing markers catch the ball.

Farney (Monaghan) - Posts: 819 - 02/04/2008 11:14:18    1669

Also agree with post that said only captain is allowed to speak to the ref. Too much abuse given to referees.

Advantage rule may also be useful. All in all I believe the rules aren't too bad. I say keep the pick up off the ground, its a great skill and haven watched some ladies games where players are allowed to pick up the ball straight of the ground it definately doesnt speed up the game.

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 02/04/2008 13:48:12    1796

anything which would restore high fielding to the game would be great and although not a rule change i would like to see the dropkick make a comeback.why does noone perform this skill anymore?

Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1558 - 02/04/2008 15:56:08    1919

You should be able to pick the ball off the ground! Now players don't even kick the ball into their hands! They kick the ground and pick it up! It would clean up the game aswell, it works in ladies football!

rebels (None) - Posts: 65 - 08/04/2008 13:02:01    4711

Connaught teams to get a 6 point head-start playing Leinster opposition!

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 10/04/2008 14:58:40    5845

why would we need 6 point headstart.
we gave the dubs a 7 point headstart in the semi in 2006 and still bet them!!!!

tommy_foot (Mayo) - Posts: 25 - 10/04/2008 15:23:11    5862

I'd "import" two rules from Ladies Football: the clean pickup from the ground, and the countdown clock. These speed up the game and stop time-wasting.

To those people who suggest limiting the handpass, this was tried in the league about 15 years ago and was a disaster; there's nothing stopping teams kicking the ball ALL the time, but it just isn't an efficient way to play. Any team could decide to revert to "catch and kick": I'd say they'd get hammered!

football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 10/04/2008 16:02:08    5887

bring the captain more into the game like rugby does!! The captain and only the captain is allowed talk to the ref!! The ref only has to explain his decision to the captain

Wicklow Wonder (Wicklow) - Posts: 108 - 10/04/2008 17:19:12    5929

Not really a runner Wicklow. What if the captain is in the foll back line and the ref is up at the other goal. Does he have to go pottering up to the ref to make a point? It works for rugby as everyone is relatively close the ref all the time.

RMDrive (Donegal) - Posts: 2202 - 10/04/2008 18:46:12    5970

Personaly I think there are too many rules in Gaa, but if I had to introduce another one it would be the mark from a kick out. The fielding of the ball is a great skill and should be rewarded. It would encourage players to try and catch the ball rather than trying to stop players from catching the ball, , oh and I'd love to see Dublin play more championship games out of croke park,,,and I'm a Dub.

PJ (None) - Posts: 2288 - 10/04/2008 20:02:14    5989

I would add two more uprights in the goals just like aussie rules.

gaothdobhair (USA) - Posts: 2 - 10/04/2008 21:24:18    6003

Agree with PJ Deery
"(1)-Allow Advantage. This will greatly speed up the game and effectively punish the fouling team. What a waste of time it is to see the referee blow up a move that has already resulted in a score only to award a free which mostly is scored."

However need to be very clear in what way it would work for consistency as the advantage rule already exists but is applied differently by different refs and not at all by some.

What I suggest is a Rugby style advantage. If a player is fouled but has the chance of an advantage, the ref hold up his arm to indicate that play is continuing under advantage. The advantage stays in place until the player plays the ball - e.g. if he passes it then arm down and continue with normal play - This way there would be no inconsistency in terms of how long the advantage were in place. If the player kicks it out over the line - tough - he just lost the advantage. If the player sees that he is in an advantage situation, and just wants the free, then all he has to do is stop and he will get the free.

Good isn't it ....

PeterP (Monaghan) - Posts: 6 - 10/04/2008 22:25:42    6029

Got to be the mark...fielding a ball now is almost a liability as you're surrounded when you land....Video evidence good but if you can't have it at all games then no point. Pick ball of ground ok but how do you regulate it? Can I dive and get the ball? Do I need to have both feet on the ground?

harp1759 (None) - Posts: 22 - 10/04/2008 23:44:32    6047

P.S. Hooter a must..

harp1759 (None) - Posts: 22 - 10/04/2008 23:46:29    6048

I totally agree RMDrive. The captain cannot be expected to follow the ref all over the field to make his point, as he will eventually be caught out of position. A similar problem already exists and I'm surprised it has not been mentioned before. When a player is booked/ticked, especially a back, he is often called out of his position by the ref. As soon as the card has been shown, the ref will blow to resume play and the free can be taken quickly to the unmarked player who may have drifted 40/50 metres from his marker. I have no problem with frees being taken quickly as it speeds up the game, but this situation is very unfair and goes unnoticed.

Tomás Tralee (Kerry) - Posts: 391 - 11/04/2008 09:51:45    6079

One rule change to Gaelic football??
I would add two more uprights in the goals just like aussie rules.
gaothdobhair , 10/04/2008 at 21:24
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Is this just for aesthetic purposes or would you give half a point for a 'score' here or what?

JayoCluxton (Dublin) - Posts: 2688 - 11/04/2008 10:15:24    6095

Deirin - maybe i wasnt clear in my first post even though i think i was....for example...how many times has nicholas murphy or dara o'se gone up for a kickout and make a clean catch and then be surrounded by 5-6 opposing players and get done for over carrying? at least if the mark was there they could be rewarded for their skill. that shud be the only time a mark is allowed.

howshecuttin (Longford) - Posts: 376 - 11/04/2008 10:17:17    6096

Yeah some protection for fielding a kickout should be giving not sure that the mark would work through. Refs should be giving frees for the third man tackle more often. Some midfields are not even trying to field from kickouts they just swap whoever catches it.

cillnaile (Fermanagh) - Posts: 37 - 11/04/2008 17:22:13    6313

I posted this on the Tyrone page hoping for debate

got none so try nationally!
I think we need regular change but to catch up with the coaches and 'professionalisation' we need quite a few changes right now. Having futile rules experiments while the catatonic administration only shakes their head 'no' every time someone tries to help the game is not good.

So here are my proposed rule changes; nothing totally new but that is inevitable after so much talk and so little action (it has mostly all been thought of).

1. Penalty 10 meters out (soccer 12yards to 8yard goal; GAA 13m to 7yards goal no wonder so many miss relative to soccer)[penalty should be a real reward]
2. Refs MUST play an advantage rule (to run up to 5 seconds after the incident then play on or blow foul; unless a player is in immediate danger)(sick of stop start ego maniac refs).
3. Allow only 2 bounces and 2 solos per possession (in any order)[get rid of it! move the ball]
4. Allow mark (free kick) if ball cleanly caught clearly over receiving players head height from a kick travelling (without bouncing) 20 or more meters (credit where credit is due for catching skill and move that ball faster further).
5.Smother tackle allowed i.e. one opposition player to pin the arms of a player in possession (and on his feet)to their sides from behind between the player in possession's shoulders and elbows at which the player in possession must immediately release the ball without trying to pass it or it is a free to the opposition.(get the ball out of people stomachs and into play)
6.Time wasting; a free with the ball moved forward 20 meters or 13 meter free somewhere on the line of the big square.(we came to see a game not japanese theatre or Waiting for Godot)
7.Going down to try to win a free is a free to the opposition and a yellow card or a red card in the square (this cheating is so frustrating).
8. Add 1 minutes additional playing time for every substitution in the last 10 minutes of every game and in extra time.(incredible nonsense by managers like O'Shea of Kerry every game now)
9. All frees sidelines and kick-outs from the hand only (learn 'em how to kick; speed up the game and encourage goalkeepers with skills other than a big boot off the ground)
10.Yellow card 10 minutes off and a 1 game suspension if in the last 10 minutes (yellow is a joke right now some refs give 20 a game and no-one loses out or is sent off; a farce)
11. Time keeping as in women's football.(Nemo had a case on Patrick's day).

We need the game speeded up, more honest, with the ball available and in play longer or the game will die!
Any views?

cjx (Tyrone) - Posts: 270 - 13/04/2008 23:33:10    6733