Was that a Tyrone man slagging Francie for pulling and dragging! A great player and by all accounts (of those who played against him) certainly nothing like the image some have of him as a dirty player. Showed that again yesterday. Good honest tough full back. Never saw Francie mouth into anyone's face about their family either come to think of it.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 18/03/2009 11:43:04    234037

A legend, past his best but still well fit for club football.

samin10 (Armagh) - Posts: 2434 - 18/03/2009 11:54:24    234043

jimbo 3 words, well done dublin

leroy (UK) - Posts: 223 - 18/03/2009 12:26:21    234061

walkman, i understand some of your points.and your right to a certain degree.i just dont see him as a naturally athletic player with loads of ability.I dont think if he was with Armagh for longer that it would have made much difference to him.he lacks a certain amount of skill and his game is based purely on power and toughness and somewhat dirty play.

dandy (Waterford) - Posts: 148 - 18/03/2009 12:47:06    234094

Calrity, You obviously have a different interpretation of what a dirty player is. Francie is only seen as a tough player because he is tough. Fair enough he might not have had much skill but he still did his. Like someone has said before he has only been red carded twice and one was later changed.

Armaghgeddon (Armagh) - Posts: 539 - 18/03/2009 14:34:52    234156

leroy
County: UK
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234061 jimbo 3 words, well done dublin

Indeed!... UP THE DUBS!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 18/03/2009 14:38:42    234159

Francie was\is a great Full Back.
There isn't a team in the country that he wouldn't get onto. Would Kerry rather have Tom O'Sullivan or Francie? Would Tyrone rather have Joe McMahon or Francie?? Ross McConnell anybody???
Monaghan would love to have him on the team as when a high ball is dropping in, or a forward is bearing in on the goals the only man to get it back out the field would be Francie!!!!!!
The man is not a midfielder, or forward, his postion is Full Back and he excels at it...... Fair play to ya!!!!!!

Farney (Monaghan) - Posts: 814 - 18/03/2009 16:06:32    234234

Lads enough with this myth. It was embarassing watching him yesterday, milk turns quicker than Francie does. If he doesn't get you with the first big hit he's got nothing, far too slow for today's game in my opinion

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 18/03/2009 16:31:21    234254

keep_the_faith
County: Meath
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232441
Darren Fays so called lack of quality won him two all ireland medals..Francie cant say that



Indeed he can't, and he can't say he has six all Ireland senior medals either after yesterday. Alas Francie might have to settle for the FIVE he already has.

Not that medals count towards greatness as I keep telling people.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 18/03/2009 20:57:05    234448

patrique
County: Antrim
Posts: 2494

234448
keep_the_faith
County: Meath
Posts: 188

232441
Darren Fays so called lack of quality won him two all ireland medals..Francie cant say that



Indeed he can't, and he can't say he has six all Ireland senior medals either after yesterday. Alas Francie might have to settle for the FIVE he already has.

Not that medals count towards greatness as I keep telling people.

I can see where your coming from!i myslef have gotten extremely frustrated with this john 3 7 fella,he seems to try and get into arguments with the likes of myself,postsplitter and sheepshooter for attention,Francie was a fantastic full back in his prime and still has lots to offer armagh,had a very poor club final-he hasnt the pace for centre back..

keep_the_faith (Meath) - Posts: 400 - 18/03/2009 21:36:04    234470

if most players had half of his talent and a tenth of his sucess they would be delighted

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 18/03/2009 21:50:35    234483

keep_the_faith.

You are talking rubbish. I am not getting into arguments. Im expressing my opinion on GAA matters which i am perfectly entitled too. And Francie had a poor game yesterday but he was a much better full back then Darren Fay and his achivements show that

John_3__7 (Meath) - Posts: 546 - 18/03/2009 22:13:48    234510

So peti its unreal..this forum is not about who was the better full back john,Just accept that deiiferent people have different views-its what makes this site what it is!

keep_the_faith (Meath) - Posts: 400 - 18/03/2009 22:24:59    234522

keep_the_faith
County: Meath
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Darren Fay in my opinion was probably the prince of modern style full backs, in that he could field the ball, was tough, and was mobile.

Francie was a good man marker and fielded some memorable high balls in his time. To me Fay was a better all round player, but Francie was good at doing simple things and keeping a dangerous opponent quiet. He actually deserved his all star.

But as I said earlier, Fay was exceptional in the new full back role.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 18/03/2009 22:51:21    234544

well this thread was originally about whether francie would retire but YOU were the one who brought darren fay up

John_3__7 (Meath) - Posts: 546 - 18/03/2009 22:54:58    234549

John 3_7- whats your postal adress?

Beacuse I'll be sending you a bill for €900..

It's to cover the cost of the laptop I'm after boucning off the wall after reading that last post of yours??

Ulick_Magee (Meath) - Posts: 2 - 18/03/2009 22:56:10    234551

Ulick- by anychance are you and Keep-the-faith the same person?

John_3__7 (Meath) - Posts: 546 - 18/03/2009 23:09:46    234565

patrique
County: Antrim
Posts: 2501
Don get me wrong Francie fully deserved his all star!
Its great to be able to have a proper discussion on this without the likes of dellboycat(occasionally!) and john_3_7 making ridiculous suggestions and stupid comments-back to he point lads..Heres to one more year of francie!

keep_the_faith (Meath) - Posts: 400 - 19/03/2009 18:06:11    235050

Keep_the_faith- what ridicilous comments/stupid comments have I made on this thread. Your the one contradicting yourself first of all criticising him and now praising him. Your just doing it in the words of yourself......."to get other posters supporting you"

John_3__7 (Meath) - Posts: 546 - 19/03/2009 19:36:02    235121

John_3__7 County: Meath Posts: 288 235121 Keep_the_faith- what ridicilous comments/stupid comments have I made on this thread. Your the one contradicting yourself first of all criticising him and now praising him. Your just doing it in the words of yourself......."to get other posters supporting you" I mean in General john..an australian team that trains in dubai playing in the championship?for heavens sake!,Im not the only one who thinks this.. Yes I have contradicted francie but i also have ad will praise him,just because i have mentioned both his flaws and his good points doesnt mean im contradicting myself john! "the words of yourself"When in the name of god did i say that john?this is aclassic example of your ridiculous comments...stop ruining hoganstand

keep_the_faith (Meath) - Posts: 400 - 19/03/2009 19:56:58    235140