The notion by some people from Ulster counties that there is an anti Ulster bias makes me cringe. I do not for one minute believe that the powers that be have an anti Tyrone , Armagh or Ulster agenda. Certainly some of their decisions baffle me but not because of their relativity to Ulster but because of there inconsistancy. It would really help if suspensions reflected games rather than weeks. It would also help if county boards did not immediately appealevery decision that caused a suspension to thir county.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 28/02/2009 21:04:49    221112

its not only in GAA that this exists Derryman but in Rugby too that George Hook man really hates Ulster has done for as long as I remember

williewentwell (Tyrone) - Posts: 1712 - 28/02/2009 21:32:23    221123

you're one in a million

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 28/02/2009 21:48:05    221138

here here derryman

jailhouse.usa (Galway) - Posts: 1155 - 28/02/2009 21:53:02    221141

Having read thousands of posts from Tyrone fans on these boards I thought the new rules had been introduced to protect Ulster teams from the alleged skull duggery of Kerry and Dublin.

Well, that's the impression most would get from these pages.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 28/02/2009 22:07:56    221151

Willie wentwell I think you and a few of your compatriots are confusing inter county and inter provincial rivalry with prejudice. The intense rivalry is what makes gaelic games unique. Of course the media commentators allow their colours to taint their view that is human. Read the commentators from Ulster and they also suffer from that. They will slight Munster football just as munster writers do to Ulster. If we take a good look at our near neighbours from the other tradition we can see very clearly what living with a siege mentality for a few generations can do to the common psyche. We will get to the stage where we trust no one ,like no one, and dont even like ourselves because we will become so inward looking we cannot see the merits in any view but our own. It is called sticking your head in the sand and you know , if you live with your head in the sand then your neighbours friends and rivals will only see an ASS.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 01/03/2009 00:41:01    221191

Derryman you are a 100 per cent correct, well said lad

PJ (None) - Posts: 2288 - 01/03/2009 01:45:44    221204

It's a sport that's all nothing more nothing less,tyrone draw the attention of the media with there antics.Surely they can see that we al live in1 island theres no anti anything.

chalkie (Derry) - Posts: 312 - 01/03/2009 12:06:58    221257

derryman
County: Derry
Posts: 83

221191 Willie wentwell I think you and a few of your compatriots are confusing inter county and inter provincial rivalry with prejudice. The intense rivalry is what makes gaelic games unique. Of course the media commentators allow their colours to taint their view that is human. Read the commentators from Ulster and they also suffer from that. They will slight Munster football just as munster writers do to Ulster. If we take a good look at our near neighbours from the other tradition we can see very clearly what living with a siege mentality for a few generations can do to the common psyche. We will get to the stage where we trust no one ,like no one, and dont even like ourselves because we will become so inward looking we cannot see the merits in any view but our own. It is called sticking your head in the sand and you know , if you live with your head in the sand then your neighbours friends and rivals will only see an ASS.


A lot of what you say makes sense, however the Southern media drive much of what goes on in the GAA, they seem to have a much larger influence than their Northern counterparts. Given that the Southern media have a clear agenda against certain Ulster counties then it is only natural that a "them against us" mentality develops. For elements of Ulster to lose the siege mentality, then the GAA will have to demonstrate fairness in all elements of its administration and yes we probably need to lighten up a bit too.

MB1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 360 - 01/03/2009 13:05:15    221274

however the Southern media drive much of what goes on in the GAA

Name one thing that the media have changed in the gaa...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 01/03/2009 13:59:11    221288

derryman i wonder are we getting an isight into the thinking of these posters who think every body is anti ulster perhaps this was their own mentality about other counties and provinces when their counties were in the doldrums they need to rise up and get over this mental block

jailhouse.usa (Galway) - Posts: 1155 - 01/03/2009 14:27:24    221297

MB1 - "Southern media"??? You mean Cork? If you are referring to the media that's mostly based in Dublin, then it's hard to take your post seriously when you have such an appalling grasp of geography.

Get over the victimisation syndrome. It's little pathetic coming from (presumably) grown adults.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3148 - 01/03/2009 14:36:57    221302

festinog
County: Galway
Posts: 237

221302 MB1 - "Southern media"??? You mean Cork? If you are referring to the media that's mostly based in Dublin, then it's hard to take your post seriously when you have such an appalling grasp of geography.

Get over the victimisation syndrome. It's little pathetic coming from (presumably) grown adults. DON,T YOU MEAN THE SOUTHERN MEDIA BASED IN DUBLIN

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 01/03/2009 14:42:25    221306

jailhouse.usa
County: Galway
Posts: 127

There are very good reasons why the 6 northern counties were as you put it "in the doldrums" The GAA in these counties were struggling for survival for the first 90years of the association for reasons of History that I surely dont need to elaborate on to any Irishman not to mention Gael. Their struggle obviously had a great effect on the province of Ulster as a whole, it was tough for the other 3 counties to develop at a greater rate than their fellow occupied 6. When i was a young lad and during a hospital stay a fellow patient asked me what team did i support in my innocence I said Derry to which he replied Never heard of them. when the penny dropped with him and his mates the hospital became a very lonely place for me. I lived in a predominantly nationalist area how do you think it might have been for those lads in the non nationalist areas. To be a GAA supporter in Ulster had a different connotation than being a GAA supporter in the other 3 provinces. We grew up on the fringe of mainstream GAA and some times I even feel that counties outside of ulster really dont appreciate the acchievement of the Ulster GAA.

However this new and I mean 21st century new them and us syndrome is being cultivated at a higher level than these posters on this stand. It certainly does give an edge to these current crop of players from the Northern counties and i fear it is also filtering into Kerry and Dublin. Iwould warn those who wish to perpetuate it that it probably will bring short term gain but long term damage to the Association as a whole.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 01/03/2009 16:23:18    221329

Fair play derryman I am with you on this one. There is a danger of mistaking the ignorance, prejudice and petty jealousies of a few individual posters for some sort of 23 county conspiracy, it doesn't exist. I have read many wonderful columns from the likes of Eugene McGee, Breheny and the like, eulogising on the merits and intensity of Ulster football, every bit as much print as I have read about the physicality and unsavoury elements of our game as well. I have long developed a thick skin as far as the press are concerned, now I have to do the same for some of our more gregarious HS posters, watch this space!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 01/03/2009 18:56:51    221382

brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 156

221382 Fair play derryman I am with you on this one. There is a danger of mistaking the ignorance, prejudice and petty jealousies of a few individual posters for some sort of 23 county conspiracy, it doesn't exist. I have read many wonderful columns from the likes of Eugene McGee, Breheny and the like, eulogising on the merits and intensity of Ulster football, every bit as much print as I have read about the physicality and unsavoury elements of our game as well. I have long developed a thick skin as far as the press are concerned, now I have to do the same for some of our more gregarious HS posters, watch this space! ;;; Great post brendan you seem to be loseing the chip.

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 01/03/2009 19:18:52    221397

festinog
County: Galway
Posts: 238

221302 MB1 - "Southern media"??? You mean Cork? If you are referring to the media that's mostly based in Dublin, then it's hard to take your post seriously when you have such an appalling grasp of geography.

Get over the victimisation syndrome. It's little pathetic coming from (presumably) grown adults.

festinog, having been to matches in Cork, Kerry, Limerick etc within the last couple of years I have a fair idea of what direction south is. Unfortunately when I use the term Southern media it's referring to the media mainly based in Dublin, it's a product of too many years living in the six counties. If you watched the Sunday Game there are several of the panelists who make no effort to hide their disdain for Ulster football. This is not a victimisation syndrome, this is something that I have watched develop since the infamous half-time nonsense spouted by one of the panelists during the semi-final in 2003. This is just an example.

I also added in my post that we in Ulster needed to lighten up a bit, maybe that needs to stretch a bit further West. Best of luck next weekend, maybe you'll head North-East (correct me if I am wrong) for the Tyrone/Galway clash!

MB1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 360 - 01/03/2009 19:39:27    221413

Dont get too cosy tomaoo7 you are one of those who fall neatly under the ignorance, prejudice & petty jealousy titles, and I shall make it my mission to confront these wherever and whenever I come across it, you have been warned!!!!!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 01/03/2009 19:40:45    221415

brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 158

221415 Dont get too cosy tomaoo7 you are one of those who fall neatly under the ignorance, prejudice & petty jealousy titles, and I shall make it my mission to confront these wherever and whenever I come across it, you have been warned!!!!!

I hope you include the tyrone lads that come under the headings that you mention

PJ (None) - Posts: 2288 - 01/03/2009 20:04:04    221430

brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 158

221415 Dont get too cosy tomaoo7 you are one of those who fall neatly under the' ones that have been telling people what tyrone are 'and what they have been doing to football since 03' but at long last people are copping on , and I shall make it my mission to confront these wherever and whenever I come across it, you have been warned!!!!! your not going to have another rant,are you brendan

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 01/03/2009 20:11:11    221436