when are da matches gonna be rescheduled for does any1 no?? minor hurlin comin up too and is also gonna affected in da same way as da football

LimerickLad09 (Limerick) - Posts: 15 - 17/04/2009 23:08:46    261053

NCW v St. Pat's is refixed for Thurs April 30th in Ballyagran ( if pitch is playable ), not sure whether the rest of the games are on that
same evening.

POD09 (Limerick) - Posts: 486 - 18/04/2009 08:24:14    261233

claughaun lost again in 21s havent won all year at adult grade in both codes. . anyone know how there gone so bad! mungret for 21A title

tmm (Limerick) - Posts: 52 - 18/04/2009 22:29:40    261810

Claughaun adult teams : they lost a few players in the hurling and their hurling manager and selectors stepped down after winning the county and keeping them senior for the past couple of years. Their footballers are always struggling and barely avoided relegation last year. They could do the double this year but it might be in the relegation.

PatsLegend (Limerick) - Posts: 105 - 19/04/2009 21:53:55    262370

"dodgyknee or whatever u like to call urself! There is a major rush for these matches to be played, because between college exams in may and the leaving cert in June fellas just wont have the time to train never mind play county semi finals or what not! And sur jesus how do you expect the games to be played in the middle of the summer when most of these young fellas are shipping off to the states on J1s! County board i urge ye to give these fellas a chance and stop messing them about or they will give up this wonderful game for good!" Dreamstar, If some players are not committed to playing for their clubs for the entire summer then they should not play u21 grade at all. I think you should familarise yourself with the traditional gaa season - may to september. Trying to fulfill an entire county championship by the end of april when pitches are wet, heavy and grass overgrown is a joke. The standard of hurling/football played in April is vastly different to that played in the height of summer. Take a leaf out of the minor championship structure and have a break to allow college exams complete prior to the latter stages of the competition would be a better option.

dodgyknee (Limerick) - Posts: 129 - 20/04/2009 12:22:21    262756

Dodgeknee, I totally disagree with what you have to say, the u21 championship should be a stepping stone for young fellas to show there worth for the senior teams in there club, a chance for them to play themelves into the squad where thay may not have gotten the opportunity previous! And a a result it is a way better idea for them to be done and dusted before the start of the senior/inter/junior championship! Secondly fellas have every right to play for the u21 team weather thay are around for the summer or not as long as they show pride in the jersey they put on whenever they wear it! Many of these fellas have been playing for there clubs since they were 5 or 6 and im sure majority of them will play until there 30s, so let them off for the summer and stop living in the dark ages!

dreamstar (Limerick) - Posts: 37 - 20/04/2009 14:46:16    262939

Dreamstar- did you even read what you just wrote?
Never before have a read a post that contradicted itself so much?
Give guys an opportunity to prove themselves before the senior championship starts then let them go on holidays for the summer?

dodgyknee (Limerick) - Posts: 129 - 21/04/2009 18:00:10    264390

I was obviously picking up on and disagreeing with 2 different points which you had made. Obviously different fellas have different agendas for the summer so I was saying that if the u21 champ was finished before the start of the senior champ it would give fellas who actually wanted to push for a senior squad place a better chance. The fellas travelling away for the summer is a totally different point.

dreamstar (Limerick) - Posts: 37 - 21/04/2009 20:24:59    264515

lads if ye want to argue we caan set up a forum for ye.

theballyboys (Limerick) - Posts: 19 - 22/04/2009 20:24:17    265606

I think ncw will be hard to stop have a good mixture of youth and expierience and have the westfinal........ would someone tell me y alan o riordan isnt midfield please????????

Monagea_menace (Limerick) - Posts: 9 - 22/04/2009 22:31:44    265758

Does anybody have any thoughts on the need to shake-up the U-21 Football Championship?

Suggestion - Move away from the City/East/South/West divisional model to a county-wide model or a cluster-based model, similar to what Bord Na nÓg have initiated.

Why? The goal would be to have better distribution of teams and to ensure more meaningful and better quality games.

I don't know what it's like in the East/South/West divisions, but the City U-21 Championship is almost meaningless! This year, there were 3 A teams and 4 B teams, but in reality, with walkovers, it was more like 3 B teams. Some of the games were woefully 1-side. Granted, moving to a different grouping model won't guarantee no more 1-side games, but it would mean more competitive and realistic games for other teams. That applies across all 4 divisions.

EG : I don't know how many clubs are in each division, but for the sake of illustration, let's say there's 4 City, 4 East, 6 South and 6 West, making 20 teams. So, regroup those 20 into 4 "equal" groups, giving 4 games to each team, with the top 2 in each group progressing to knockout county quarter-finals.


In parallel, the overall running/scheduling needs to be reviewed, especially in light of the laughable fixing, cancelling and refixing of the quarter-finals over the past couple of weeks.


They're just a couple of suggestions/thoughts, but something needs to change because continuing as is will do very little for U-21 Football in Limerick and by extension, very little for Senior Football in Limerick.

Corcaioch (Limerick) - Posts: 4 - 24/04/2009 12:25:59    267234

Corcaioch, I would agree with you. I have always said this in the past but on deaf ears. It would most certainly raise the profile of the U21 championship and hence improve standards across the county. Plus provides a wider spectrum of players on show for prospective county managers to view.

dink (Limerick) - Posts: 7 - 24/04/2009 16:52:35    267503

We need to give our u21 championship a serious look at. It fails to showcase our young players.....

Here are a few things that really anoy me about the competition!

1. It is run off too early in the year, with a knockout system, in usually horrible weather conditions in the opening rounds.

2. It always collides with the munster minor and u21 (No wonder John Colbert was raging, Wouldn't you be too if you were the manager) Football championship, so if any players are involved with the county, it makes life more difficult for them. (Player burnout and risk of injuries in club matches, which could curtail our munster championship hopes)

3. The county boards putting stupit fixtures in place usually the same week of an intercounty fixture. (nonsence)

4. The very fact that it is run off so early, also adds to players loosing interest in the game! because if their team is knocked out in the early rounds, they may have no football for the rest of the year! especially if their club is not a football club or has no adult football team. eg: Fedamore

Anyway we sould give the whole championship a serious look at in terms of what we want to achieve in terms of a good underage football structure within the county. Maybe we should introduce a league system as well or a county shield competition for the loosers, (They do this in kerry, for the clubs) at least any extra competion is needed.

Carnival.Night (Limerick) - Posts: 9 - 27/04/2009 14:18:11    269030

It should be played on an all county basis,with A,B and C grades. Clare have a C grade in their u21 hurling championship, I don't seewhy itcan't be implemented here.

Going on this years divisional championships, could have been structured as follows:

A Grade: Mungret, St Patricks, Monaleen, Oola, Naomh Brid, Mulcair Gaels, Grange, Hospital Herbertstown, Ballylanders, Newcastlewest, Fr Caseys, Shannon Gaels.

B Grade: Claughaun, Na Piarsaigh, Killulta Gaels, Pallasgreen, Galbally, Sean Finns, Dromcollogher Broadford, St Senans, St Kierans, Ballysteen, Feale Rangers, Granagh Ballingarry.

C Grade: Ballybrown, Cappamore, Croom, Knockainey, Bunoke Gaels, Knockaderry, Feenagh Kilmeedy, Cappagh.

m_the_d (None) - Posts: 1099 - 27/04/2009 14:43:30    269067

A couple of good suggestions there M_The_D, especially the suggestion to introduce a C grade. Given the number of 1-sided games and walkovers awarded by teams who had suffered some very heavy defeats, I think a C grade is well worth considering.

Just out of curiosity and given their fairly comprehensive defeat in the B quarter-final, I'm wondering what "rating criteria" did you use to "promote" Mulcair Gaels from B to A? Just wondering like. :-)

Corcaioch (Limerick) - Posts: 4 - 27/04/2009 17:51:28    269349

this thursday night we should have two great games in the u/21 football A semi finals NCW v St Pats and Fr Caseys v Mungret St Pauls with the final to be played this Sunday a lot of future talent on display here and the football chiefs should be out watching these games and noteing players for next seasons u/21 and minor sides

fca (Limerick) - Posts: 11 - 27/04/2009 20:01:02    269500

Nothing too controversial(or biased!) Corcaioch, just named the top 3 from each division.

On another note, I'd also expand the junior ranks to include a C grade also. As you said, more even games, less walkovers etc. I trial period of an All County Junior Championship, with three grades would be shake it up a bit. Maybe try it with football first, and leave the hurling alone for the time being.

m_the_d (None) - Posts: 1099 - 27/04/2009 21:29:10    269609

my predictions:
ncw to pip st.pats in a high scoring game
mungret to see off fr.caseys handy enough

johncena (Limerick) - Posts: 79 - 28/04/2009 20:26:56    270657

Any predictions for the B semi-finals tomorrow night?

Pallasgreen V St. Senan's
Killulta Gaels V St. Kieran's

Corcaioch (Limerick) - Posts: 4 - 29/04/2009 09:24:27    270912

kildimo Vs st.Senans in county final and kildimo to win... A very strong side a couple of biggens

Odd_man_Barry (Limerick) - Posts: 11 - 29/04/2009 13:22:55    271141