Ok the performance was good.but lets be honest wexford are not the greatest team around!!division 2 football is poisonous!!we'l see how the performances are come championship time!!some of the players on the monaghan team are not worthy of a place in the junior c league never mind facing up to the likes of sean cavanagh and stephen o neill...finally could all monaghan supporters get a grip of themselves....THE SAM MAGUIRE WAS NEVER WON IN FEBRUARY!!...

matt1916 (Monaghan) - Posts: 5 - 16/02/2009 18:12:33    208600

Ulster man
I would agree with you on that.Full back not Vinnys positon he really come into the game when moved to the half back line.
Made a few telling runs i would like to see make start at centre half back.Any word on JP Mone is he still injured or what.

ruthless (Monaghan) - Posts: 594 - 16/02/2009 19:28:10    208676

conner mc manus take a bow son......litreally take a bow....u have been immense....

footiebogman (Monaghan) - Posts: 37 - 16/02/2009 20:04:12    208709

matt1916
County: Monaghan
Posts: 1

208600
Ok the performance was good.but lets be honest wexford are not the greatest team around!!division 2 football is poisonous!!we'l see how the performances are come championship time!!some of the players on the monaghan team are not worthy of a place in the junior c league never mind facing up to the likes of sean cavanagh and stephen o neill...finally could all monaghan supporters get a grip of themselves....THE SAM MAGUIRE WAS NEVER WON IN FEBRUARY!!..


Wexford made the All Ireland semis last year, bounced back after a heavy defeat to Dublin, and knocked out two quality sides in Armagh and Down. We're in better shape at the moment, but noone in the Monaghan setup would take them for granted if we meet up in the summer. Your comment regarding some players not being up to Junior C says more about you than the players. Tyrone have class players but they're beatable. Sam not won in February - thanks for that nugget of wisdom.

MiseMuineachain (Monaghan) - Posts: 212 - 16/02/2009 21:28:18    208806

MiseMuineachain
County: Monaghan
Posts: 21

To be fair Mat1916 kind of contradicted himself there in a way. In one breath he's saying Sam wasn't won in February and in the next he is basically saying that Wexford are no good despite making it to the All-Ireland Semi last year and that wasn't in February.
As I said to the Armagh fans who were getting a bit carried away last week (and did they win at the weekend), Armagh are definitely miles ahead of Wexford preparation wise at the moment but come the summer even after the defect (which I was at) I would not have any fear of Armagh with a fully fit Wexford team. If we can get ourselves back to the same level of fitness as last year we actually have added another few class players to the side. Saying that I think Jason Ryan has really let Wexford slip over the Winter months and by the time he gets them to a decent level of fitness we might be staring division 3 in the face. But there is plenty of time for the championship and I suppose that's the one that counts. If we can shore up the full-back line I could see us doing damage again with the luck of the draw and let's face it teams like WestMeath, Wexford and Monaghan definitely need the luck of the draw.

ColinWex (Wexford) - Posts: 901 - 16/02/2009 21:54:53    208853

Note of caution - we were here this time last year and still managed to mess it up towards the end


The ulitmate goal should be a peak performance come May - not what we witnessed last year in Fermanagh

Jacky08 (None) - Posts: 136 - 17/02/2009 12:17:47    209310

who is the best up and coming coach in the county at the present time or is there any

sotec (Monaghan) - Posts: 67 - 17/02/2009 12:27:16    209332

ATTENTION TO THE POSTS FROM USERS SAYING "ground didnt suit hanratty" What kind of excuse is this!!!!! I completely agree with "jackie08 and shaggylegend". And for people to say that the ground didnt suit him? It suited everyone else. Maybe we should pray for suitable ground for him. The simple fact is that Banty needs to get a grip. Banty stated in a interview that " there is such competition for places" Well if this is the case which im sure it is why does he insist on playing hanners. I think its time to stop using stupid excuses. If a player doesnt play well TAKE HIM OFF. Plenty of better footballers to replace him.

damonaghan (Monaghan) - Posts: 211 - 17/02/2009 14:16:43    209503

As much as i don't rate hanrathy and would love to see someone else in his place, who else could we put in there? The full forward line is our weakest line on the pitch and there is serious competition everywhere else but there.

monaghan_ultra (None) - Posts: 213 - 17/02/2009 14:54:49    209563

i have been thinking about this and i would like 2 see a team something along the lines of this.

Mc Bennett
Dessie
JP
---------- a few options here

Hughes
Mc Quaid
Vinny, and he'd be lucky

Eoin
Dick

jinxy
Mc manus
a few options here aswel not sure!!

tommy
jap
rory

i would like to see wat jap would be like in the full forward line because its not like ur goin to miss his work rate around the middle because he doesn't have 1!! its true he catches the odd him ball but if he could do that at full forward i'd be happy. mc manus will more then make up for his play making skills on the forty.

whats the view on this?

Ulster Man (National) - Posts: 13 - 17/02/2009 15:19:48    209613

Even if Hanratty doesn't score, he is fast and can distract the opposition and take some of the attention off Tommy as someone else said. Alot of people outside Monaghan seem to rate him highly, more than some within the county, but he is still really living on the game against Down 2 years ago now. He hasn't had a real match-winning performance since. He can be infuriating at times but his speed is an advantage and on his day he can roast many a corner-back. I'm not his biggest fan myself but as monaghan ultra says, who would you replace him with? We don't have many corner-forwards waiting in the wings who would do better.

mid-mon man (Monaghan) - Posts: 1680 - 17/02/2009 15:37:17    209651

Jap has to play on the 40, his playmaking skills would be badly missed and you would be taking away alot of his game by playing him on the square. I can see McManus playing on the 40 in the future, and would be good there even now, but Jap has to stay there for me.

mid-mon man (Monaghan) - Posts: 1680 - 17/02/2009 15:39:24    209657

I wouldn't be so hard on Hanratty, He has his weaknesses but he also has his strenghts, and when it comes to championship, I'd have him on my starting 15.

On a different note, I haven't notice any different from the Monaghan team of 09 compared to 08, so we may end up in much same position(nearly men)

jakestevens81 (Monaghan) - Posts: 179 - 17/02/2009 16:22:23    209728

Hanratty is very light and speedy but he lacks control and composure and so he will play much better in the Summer when the ground is harder and the bounce of the ball is truer. Although he can be infuriating I think he's a quality player in the making and he played very well against Fermanagh. The problem with him is that you can tell after about 15 mins what kind of a game he's gonna have and many times, including Sunday, he's left on far too long for his or our good. But he'll improve and he has pace to burn defenders which is more and more important in the modern game. He'll be a very important player for us before the year is out.

Ulster Man
If you put Jap and Rory in the full forward line, you'd be putting your 2 best foot passers in the position where they can't foot pass! I don't see Jap coasting at midfield, if anything I'd count him a hard worker. That ain't gonna work and it won't even be tried.

BG (Monaghan) - Posts: 116 - 17/02/2009 17:05:48    209814

Maybe im wrong about playin jap at full forward (i dont think so), but how u can call him a hard worker ill never no, wat games do you be watching!! Also the best passers are Mc Quaid and Mc Manus wit woods a close second..

Ulster Man (National) - Posts: 13 - 17/02/2009 17:17:27    209833

Hanratty has had long enough to prove himself but has yet to do so. He is lucky that there is no one seriously challenging him for that position. An alternative of some description has to be found.

On Japs work rate, it is undeniable that he can go missing from games for long periods. I would also include Downey as being one of the best footpassers that we have as he showed on sunday.

monaghan_ultra (None) - Posts: 213 - 17/02/2009 17:30:26    209862

to the wexford man..congratulations on getting to the semi's,,could you please tell me what kind of trophy or medal ye get for that!!,matty forde cant carry the team forever!!

matt1916 (Monaghan) - Posts: 5 - 17/02/2009 17:55:50    209917

BG County: Monaghan Posts: 18 209814 Hanratty is very light and speedy but he lacks control and composure and so he will play much better in the Summer when the ground is harder and the bounce of the ball is truer. Although he can be infuriating I think he's a quality player in the making and he played very well against Fermanagh. The problem with him is that you can tell after about 15 mins what kind of a game he's gonna have and many times, including Sunday, he's left on far too long for his or our good. But he'll improve and he has pace to burn defenders which is more and more important in the modern game. He'll be a very important player for us before the year is out. Totally agree with above. As I said previously, he had a very good game in Enniskillen on a harder pitch. Some of his distribution that day was excellent. And no, not all players can easily adapt to heavier ground - HORSES FOR COURSES... I reckon he should have been called ashore earlier last Sunday, but he's still young, sometimes too fast for his own good, but is showing sign of developing into a top class attacker.

MiseMuineachain (Monaghan) - Posts: 212 - 17/02/2009 20:41:31    210061

Ulsterman
What games have you been watching jap passing of the ball is second to none can kick a ball 40 yards into a mans hand ask tommy freeman what he thinks,I totally agree with you that his work rate should be much better.

ruthless (Monaghan) - Posts: 594 - 17/02/2009 22:13:42    210175

Im not sayin jap is a bad passer of the ball but i dont think he is the best.. Mc quaid pulls all the strings in the big games and its his passing ability which does this and i think most people would agree.

Ulster Man (National) - Posts: 13 - 17/02/2009 22:47:04    210218