i hear the all britain semis are in manchester this weekend and lancs have Yorkshire. Should be a good game but I fancy lancashire to go through. We beat Oisins 2-13 to 9 the rest according to the lancashire website are Peters 1-7 Lawrences 3-1 and Annes 1-5 to Brendans 2-7. Looking at our game against Oisins yesterday what I took from it apart from another good display from our lads was despite what people are saying on here Oisins are not all that bad. Fair enough the passing and awareness was poor from them but they still have some very strong players and come the end of this championship if they get the act together I think it will be us against them for the final again. I'm sure a lot of other people on this forum will have a bit more to say about it. Anyone heading to Manchester on sunday for the semis. Should be good games.
DBlue_and_Yella (UK) - Posts: 30 - 29/06/2009 11:24:01
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2 suprises there given last weeks results.
I'd have thought Peter's would have hammered Lawrences and Ann's would have hammered Brendan's.
Anyone at either games?
BigTom2050 (Tipperary) - Posts: 289 - 29/06/2009 11:43:42
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It looks like Mitchels are well on coarse for the semi's but who will be joining them?? St Peters are favourates to join them at the minute. As for Annes, Lawerences, Brendans and Oisins- 2 will make it, 2 will not!
Oisin propping up the table right now and will have to pull out all the stops to quailify. Annes have the fire-power to make it but need to be more consistant. Lawrences should certainly not be counted out of the equasion just yet. Brendans, well its hard to know what will come next from them, hard to predict.
One thing is for sure them are some real crunch games on the horizion and it should make for a very interesting conclustion of the group stage.
Yer Man (None) - Posts: 286 - 29/06/2009 12:15:02
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You said that it will prob be Oisins and JMs in Final. Im new to the UK system, is it not possible for both teams to meet in a semi final ?
I would agree that oisins will get stronger as the championship progresses. Brendans seem to be back on track after victory. Lawrences only four scores???
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Anyone would be daft to write Oisins off, they'll be in the semi's along Mitchell's and Peter's. Lawrences games with Ann's and Brendan's will be crucial for the final spot.
Take_yer_points (Galway) - Posts: 151 - 29/06/2009 18:55:02
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Massive week in the senior championship with two rounds of fixtures.
Heres my predictions for Thursday night.
St Annes v St Lawrences Very tough one to call here, not least because of Anns inconsistances in fielding a team. Expect them to do so here though and expect them to be up for it. Lawrence's form has been up and down but they'll need to click here or they'll be in a bad position. I'm gonna go for Annes to get it right; after a fight. Annes by 4 points.
St Brendans v Oisin The boy's in maroon could put a nail in Oisins championship coffin if they win this one. Oisin are petering over the edge and have two must-win games this week, it won't be easy. Their form has been unpredictable of late but the same can be said of Brendans who could also do with the two points. Hard to call but with Oisins backs against the wall perhaps their quality might tell. Oisin by 3 points.
John Mitchels v St Peters The top two go toe to toe in what should be a great game. Perhaps Mitchels most difficult fixture in the group games. But for Peters to travel to Liverpool and cause a shock would take a big improvement from their last outing- a draw against Lawrences. Expect the mighty Mitchels to guarentee the top spot with a comfortable win in their backyard. Mitchels by 8 points.
Any one else have predictions??
Yer Man (None) - Posts: 286 - 14/07/2009 13:18:23
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St Annes v St Lawrences Prediction 2-10 4-8 (Close but StL can edge with goals) St Brendans v Oisins Prediction 1-6 4-12 (Oisins need to win remaining 3 games to avoid JM in semi no more mistakes here in) John Mitchels v St Peters (Greenbank will give JM extra edge and comfortable win) Prediction 4-14 0-9
Anyone else ?
33233 (Donegal) - Posts: 52 - 14/07/2009 17:38:56
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Yer Man way out with your predictions again. Easy wins for Mitchells, Lawrences although only 5points in Oisins game. They seem to be struggling at the minute!
The_Bookmaker (Tyrone) - Posts: 82 - 16/07/2009 23:13:57
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Now now bookmaker I think you'll find, in the words of meatloaf, two outa three aint bad!
Big wins for Lawrences and Mitchels and a badly needed win for Oisin. St Anns seem to have went downhill repidly after the win over Oisins earlier in the campaign.
So now for Sunday, another big championship day.
St Annes V John Mitchels
Annes need to get back on track and they do have home advantage here. They will need Coyne, Ahern and Doran to be on fire to give them any hope but lets face it, it doesn't look good for them here. Mitchels seem to be going through the gears and I think they'll run out comfortable winners here. Mitchels by 13 points.
St Brendans V St Lawrences
This is the hardest of the three to call. Lawrences seem to have got back on track in the last few c'ship games but don't overlook the fact that Brendans do have quailty and are bound to be up for this one. Brendans have mission impossible in their last game (Mitchels away), so if they loose this one they are as good as gone. With that in mind I'm going for a Brendans win by 2 points.
Oisin V St Peters
I said in my last set of predictions that Oisins were peetering over the edge, well a win here would put them right back in this championship. I think Peters can afford to drop points here more than Oisins can, but that will count for nothinmg when the whistle blows. This should be a good game of football with two of the stronger teams in the county, there wont be alot in it but home advantage may be crucial. Oisin by 3 points.
Now bookmaker (and everyone else) get your predictions in to see how you do.
Yer Man (None) - Posts: 286 - 17/07/2009 09:39:51
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Predictions St Annes V JM (Annes have been very close to JM last 2 years will hope the rain stays but i'm afraid easy win for JM judging by Thur night results. 0-4 4-12 St Brendans V St Lawrences (Lawrences have edge in forwards and will see them through) 1-8 4-10 Oisins v St Peters (Always a close game but a must win for Oisins and home advantage will tell) 3-10 2-8
33233 (Donegal) - Posts: 52 - 17/07/2009 16:43:36
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Results
St Annes 2-3 John Mitchels 1-16 Looks pretty comfortable as expected although conceding 2 majors may be a slight worry.
St Brendans 1-6 St Lawrences 1-9 I thought there would only be a kick between the teams, excellent result for Lawrences, Brendans are gonners in my opinion.
Oisin 0-12 St Peters 1-9 This is a better result for Peters than it is for Oisins who are in desprate need of a win next week.
Anyone at the games who can give us some sort of report or run down?
Yer Man (None) - Posts: 286 - 20/07/2009 12:18:55
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I was present at the Oisins v Peters game. It was a tough, physical game, not really attractive with mistakes a plenty on both sides, perhaps due to the conditions. Peters as always in the Championship were up for it and really brought the fight to Oisins. The Oisins rearguard looked sloppy poor handling and some dreadful passing throughout, a better attacking team such as Mitchells would put them to the sword. In my opinion Oisins deserved to win but a draw is not a poor reflection on the game.
As for who will progress to the next round, I think it would take some huge performances to stop the current top four going through. As for next Sunday,
St Peters v St. Annes
2-13 - 2-8
I think Peters will have too much for Annes all over the field with the likes of Corcoran, McGeehan and the two Gallaghers likely to dominate and if Annes are to have any chance it will take a huge performance in particular from Coyne and Doran in the full-forward line.
John Mitchells V St Brendans
3-16 - 1-5
I think this will be a tough physical encounter but I can't see anything else then a hammering for Brendans as although they have improved this year they won't to be able to cope with a rampant Mitchells looking to cement there place at the top and to remain unbeaten in this years championship.
Oisin CLG v St Lawrences
2-13 - 3-8
Although Oisins have convincingly beaten Lawrences in the last few encounters, Lawrences in the Championship are a different animal and Oisins will have to play too their full potential to beat them. If Oisins underestimate Lawrences they could well be shocked but as this is a crucial match for Oisins in regards to their season, I don't see it happening.
This would leave Mitchells at the top, Peters through in second, Lawrences in third and Oisins taking the fourth spot with another disappointing season for Annes and Brendans who showed promise in parts. Any other views?
Hunkers (Tyrone) - Posts: 4 - 20/07/2009 13:07:59
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Hunkers if the matches go as you say it would be Oisins in 3rd and Lawrences in 4th. This is because we have beaten them in the head to head. If Annes play like they did against us in the first game of the championship I don't see why they couldn't beat Peters. That would really shake things up.
Comeonthetown (UK) - Posts: 57 - 20/07/2009 15:55:38
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Comeonthetown County: UK Posts: 47
353454 Hunkers if the matches go as you say it would be Oisins in 3rd and Lawrences in 4th. This is because we have beaten them in the head to head. If Annes play like they did against us in the first game of the championship I don't see why they couldn't beat Peters. That would really shake things up.
Comeonthetown I think its scoring difference that counts in senior championship. The head to only applies if a team has failed to field in the comp i think. I may be wrong tho
The_Bookmaker (Tyrone) - Posts: 82 - 20/07/2009 16:18:44
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Thank you Comeonthetown, I wasn't aware of the head to head rule and was basing my table positions of goal difference! Can anybody tell me, when we go to knock-out format is there a draw or is it 1st play 4th, 2nd play 3rd?
I agree if Annes played as they did against Oisins then they could give Peters a good game, but was that not also due to Oisins were poor on that day? I can't see them beating Peters as they are looking strong and have experienced players whereas Annes are relatively young and inexperienced in large parts, when it comes to Championship. Also I think the loss due to injury of young Willy will show as he is a crucial player for them.
Hunkers (Tyrone) - Posts: 4 - 20/07/2009 16:35:00
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I' not sure if it goes down to points difference or head-to-heads. Can anyone in the know clarify? (sparks!?)
Was just looking at the table on that Lancashire site and I'm suprised to see Oisin havent scored a goal yet. Every other team has scored at least four, this may be a problem for the Didsbury men come Sunday, no?
A massive weekend scedule coming up, any body got their predictions? Ill put my own in soon.
Yer Man (None) - Posts: 286 - 21/07/2009 11:54:14
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RE: Score difference OR head-to-head I have asked the question but am waiting on clarification from the county board.
I'll post here as soon as I have the verdict!
sparks_uuc (Fermanagh) - Posts: 91 - 21/07/2009 18:28:09
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Re:Score difference OR head-to-head
Ifs its on head-to-head we could in theory end up with everyone still in the competition if Brendans and Annes win and if Oisins win or draw! Peters should be worried if its decided this way as lose to Annes could likely put them out?
33233 (Donegal) - Posts: 52 - 21/07/2009 21:00:42
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The verdict is in.
Its taken on a score difference basis, followed by amount scored and finally if required head-to-head.
I think head-to-head would also be used if some fixtures were not fulfilled.
sparks_uuc (Fermanagh) - Posts: 91 - 22/07/2009 08:40:48
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Right so now thats established time for my predictions...
St Peters v St Annes Peters are within touching distance of making the semi-finals and St Annes are the only team standing in their way. Annes need a 15 point win to ensure they finish above Peters but a win of any sort may be enough to sneak through if other results go their way. I tip Peters to use their superior all-round quality and home advantage to win. Peters by 5 points.
John Mitchels v St Brendans Will Mitchels take the foot of the gas and be too complacent going into this one? Will Brendans recapture early season form now they are on the verge of being dumped out? Will the beatles supply the half time entertainment in Greenbank Lane? The answer to all three is no. It is possible for Brendans to make the semi's, but I think its a step too far. Expect another comfortable win for Mitchels. Mitchels by 12 points.
St Lawrences v Oisin If my calculations are correct Oisins need an 11points plus victory to over take Lawrences and ensure they avoid a Mitchels semi final. They will also be aware that a defeat could put them out. Lawrences have been going well and with home advantage this will be a tough encounter. Oisins form has been patchy to say the least and although I think they will win I think the 11 point margin they crave will be too much. Oisin by 2 points.
This would leave the top 4- John Mitchels, St Peters, St Lawrences and Oisin.
If the semis are 1v4 , 2v3, that'll leave Jm v Ois and St P v St L.
Any other predictions?
Yer Man (None) - Posts: 286 - 22/07/2009 14:39:36
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