if McCoy had have had that attitude on tue he would not have had that winner.

samin10 (Armagh) - Posts: 2434 - 12/03/2009 09:07:18    230694

Pertemps Final

I make Galiant my Nap of the festival in this especially at the prices. Win, lose or draw, this horse is no 25/1 chance, 12/1 max is what he should be and even at that, I'd still be backing him. Not many horses who ran in a Classic (St.Leger in this lad's case) end up at Cheltenham, let alone the Pertemps Final. And he is well able to jump a hurdle too. The ground is drying out for him and I expect Cheltenham will play to his strengths too. Barry Geraghty seems quietly confident too.

And everything else in the race have some doubt or another about them, P'Tit Fute is classy but has to lump around top weight, Ballydub is held at the weights by Galient, Green Mile has done nothing to suggest he can take this and his trainer hasn't won a race in 2009, the last time Buena Vista won a race was more than two years ago and in six visits to Cheltenham, Don't Push It has failed to complete in three and looks held by Galient on Newbury running last November.

I'll be extremely disappointed if Galient is not in the first four, he is by no means a cert to, but at 25/1 I'll take the risk to find out.

Loyal2TheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 4522 - 12/03/2009 10:09:54    230727

Bad enough day at the races yesterday. Meath All Star let me down badly. Hopefully today will be better.

men_of_49 (Meath) - Posts: 2022 - 12/03/2009 10:12:24    230730

loyal - what you think of punchestowns in the world? i wouldnt trust the jocky on K.Bliss so i think punchestowns has a great chance. a winner at cheltenham before if im not mistaken.

Rhodejim (Offaly) - Posts: 2888 - 12/03/2009 10:41:47    230760

i dont like carberry anyway, i think he does give up sometimes, when its showed he shouldnt. i want a jockey to always max what he can out of a horse and i dont feel he always does that.

kauto star (Sligo) - Posts: 42 - 12/03/2009 11:16:38    230789

At the end of the day, if you watch enough races, you will get to know jockeys and their different styles. If you back a horse ridden by a jockey in his usual style, be realistic in your expectations. For instance, Ruby will sit quiet at his fences and tends to get horses jumping better than McCoy who very often kicks his mounts into his fences but at the same time there is no one better at galvanising a horse in a finish. If you back a horse ridden by Paul Carberry, he will hold up his horse more often, get the horse to settle and hope to come with one big run passing beaten horses. Different courses and the competitiveness of races will either suit or hinder a horses chances, factor it in with a jockeys style.

gianfranco (Offaly) - Posts: 100 - 12/03/2009 11:37:40    230806

Rhodejim makes a very good point. I would say Geraghty and Walsh will outwit Pieux in this one. They will make it a test, they will want to drag the finishing kick out of Kasbah Bliss. I can see Pieux holding the horse up and hoping to come late. If that happens, I can't see him out battling Big Bucks or even Punchestowns up the hill. He has ran at Cheltenham four times and been beaten on all four occasions. Big Bucks for me but Punchestowns to chase him home.

Loyal2TheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 4522 - 12/03/2009 12:15:55    230845

1.30 naiad du miselot
2.05 galient
2.40 voy por ustedes
3.20 kasbah bliss(NAP)
4.00 finger on the pulse
4.40 poker de sivola

juniorman (Galway) - Posts: 75 - 12/03/2009 12:55:00    230875

Dont want to influence anyone but just got word from mate over at cheltenham the whole talk is clarified is a good bet in 4.00

samin10 (Armagh) - Posts: 2434 - 12/03/2009 13:11:29    230884

Good lad Timmy Murphy, nice start.

Loyal, just heard that Galiant as a nap on the radio. Think ill do it ew.

samin10 (Armagh) - Posts: 2434 - 12/03/2009 13:44:19    230914

Clarify 4.00pm

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 12/03/2009 13:56:10    230923

Ive gone for Punchestowns on the logic pinted out by Rhodejim and loyal but really, Kasbahs jockey would want to be seriously useless to blow it. Kasbah should be the best horse in the race by some distance. Have Voy pur in Ryanair but not feelin too confident at the minute. Something tells me Tidal bay is in for a big run.
Juniorman did u put yur tips in the right thread??

mossbags (Galway) - Posts: 1089 - 12/03/2009 13:58:15    230927

Galiant came full of running 3 out but faded badly between 2nd last and last thought it would have got a place? thats Cheltenham , Clarify being tipped up why is it drifting in the offices? tony martin string not running well, but am a sucker for a whisper so might have a bit at it.

williewentwell (Tyrone) - Posts: 1712 - 12/03/2009 14:34:02    230945

Voy Pur jumping cost him there. Imperial Commanders a good one though and put in a great round. Fully deserved. Delighted for Paddy Brennan

mossbags (Galway) - Posts: 1089 - 12/03/2009 15:00:54    230968

im not delighted for brennan,i had lumped on voy por. disaster aswell with punchestown,think barry went to early on him. we were right about kasbha though

Rhodejim (Offaly) - Posts: 2888 - 12/03/2009 15:34:01    230995

Bookies are in Heaven there today. Disaster of a day

mossbags (Galway) - Posts: 1089 - 12/03/2009 15:35:23    230996

so far so good for me, backed the first one at 8s then inperial commander at 6s. rather do an ew that should def get a place and take on an even money favourite than go for the evs favourite

samin10 (Armagh) - Posts: 2434 - 12/03/2009 15:46:49    231006

Had a terrible day at the office. Won **** all. Disgusted.
Had good oul day yesterday though. Hope tomorrow will be better.

Plastic Paddy (Tyrone) - Posts: 664 - 12/03/2009 17:25:31    231072

I Had a great day £1ew Lucky15 £282 2wins 2 placed thought ping pong was done and dusted! Thurs always lucky for me by sat nite I will probably have only broke even!

DynamoDooher (Tyrone) - Posts: 423 - 12/03/2009 17:51:34    231105

Glorious day. Won a few bob the last two days but putting wrong selections together meant I wasn't getting full value or return - but 3 ew doubles and a treble on Chaptoturgeon. Schindler's Hunt & Character Building left the girl in PP asking me if I was trying to do her out of a job! Happy, happy days - roll on tomorrow!!

Dubinmeath (Dublin) - Posts: 1123 - 12/03/2009 18:04:28    231118