I've gauged enough interest to throw up this thread. If you not interested, simply ignore.

To get the ball rolling anyone sitting on 3/1 Kauto Star is now sitting smug and pretty.Advised this earlier in some thread. I'd say 5/4 is the best you'll get at this stage. If he puts in a good round, he wins. The only other possible concern would be the ground on the soft side but I'd still take him to win. Denmans goose looks well and truly cooked and nothing else comes close.
Another one to get your teeth into now is Willy Mullins Quel Esprit for the bumper. At around 10/1 now have a feeling those odds might be halved by raceday.
Strongly advised as well is Hurricane fly in the supreme novices, the opening race of the festival. The horse looked a real class act at Leopordstown over the Christmas and would be quite confident that he can get us off to a winning and profitable start.
Its also gonna be hard now to throw a few quid on Brave Inca at 20/1.
Get on!!
Advised
Quel Esprit 10/1 Champion Bumper
Hurricane Fly 5/1 Supreme Novice

mossbags (Galway) - Posts: 1089 - 10/02/2009 15:43:54    203238

Denmans goose looks well and truly cooked and nothing else comes close.


you'll eat your hat big time on this one chap. the course didnt suit denners on saturday and the goin was nothing like what hes used to. he would of been pulled from this race if he handnt already been pulled from one a few weeks previous cus of the going.

my prediction is that denman will go off as favourite and win hansomely. and you can quote me on that.

joan_balantine (UK) - Posts: 824 - 10/02/2009 15:54:16    203262

PANDAROMA for the ballymores novice hurdler i think injured the last time run .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 10/02/2009 15:55:03    203267

correction
'Its also gonna be hard NOT to throw a few quid on Brave Inca at 20/1. '

mossbags (Galway) - Posts: 1089 - 10/02/2009 15:55:41    203270

I had Denman last year and i ain't jumping ship now. Plus i threw E100 on Kauto Star there on stephen's day at even money and although he did win, he was jumping like a paralyzed kangaroo and more or less ran straight through the last fence. I nearly lost all reason watching the bloody thing. Denman all the way, plus hes currently at 4/1 so.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 10/02/2009 16:01:04    203283

Mossbags, what about the horse that beat Denman on Sat, slashed from 66s to 8s. I was one of those preaching about Kauto this time last week. Denman looked a shadow of his old self but i think the run will have done him a world of good, back to a left handed course as well. I think i am going to back him ew at 4-1. I know its cowardly but the way i see it he is a cert to be placed which will get me my money back, if he wins then happy days.

samin10 (Armagh) - Posts: 2434 - 10/02/2009 16:07:34    203293

Hteam and Joan Balantine Denmans goose IS cooked. Dont take my word for it, read between the lines of what Paul Nicholls was saying after Saturdays race when he was talking about some horses having one good year and then fading off. He wasn't confident before the race and was even less confident after. He knows. Ruby knows and your pockets will certainly know after Cheltenham. BTW I was in Denmans camp last year and backed him, and much as I love the horse, sentiment is no reason to lose money. Kauto's on fire this year and Ruby will get him home I'd say with a bit to spare.

mossbags (Galway) - Posts: 1089 - 10/02/2009 16:28:09    203317

I wonder are there many from Ireland heading over with the recession in full flow? Not into the racing at all personally but wouldn't mind going over for the craic of the whole event.

dubupnorth (Dublin) - Posts: 1897 - 10/02/2009 16:31:45    203325

madison du berlais. Not without hope Samin but I'd take Kauto any day of the week. Wouldn't put anyone off Denman e/w but my hunch is that he's even more likely to drift even further closer to the race so wouldn't be rushing into it.
The interesting question re Denman is who'll be on board. Sam Thomas gave him a dream ride last year and probably deserves another chance but obviously with his poor form this year and a public dressing down earlier from Nicholls his confidence might be shot and the owners may be looking elsewhere.

mossbags (Galway) - Posts: 1089 - 10/02/2009 16:34:34    203329

mossbags

sentiment is no reason to lose money.

Your probably right and thats a very good statement its just that every time i back Kauto Star he seems to leave me in a terrible state although he has come through for me more than once. Plus add in the fact that i openly admit im not an expert on horse racing, im more of a casual observer so let me lose me money all i want :-)

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 10/02/2009 16:38:58    203336

Hteam throw a few bob on Meath for Sam and you'll be set:-)

mossbags (Galway) - Posts: 1089 - 10/02/2009 16:47:55    203356

Hoping to head over myself, i work in the Public sector so job is as secure as you can get have about a grand saved up to spend at the bookies, really looking forward to it, i was one of those who got Kauto Star at 3-1 got a hundred on it

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 10/02/2009 16:50:19    203361

mossbags

Hteam throw a few bob on Meath for Sam and you'll be set:-)

Ah no mossbags i never throw money on a 2 horse race and seens as how its between Meath & Kerry this year i better give it a miss ;-)

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 10/02/2009 16:53:37    203371

I wouldn't be singing about Kauto Star just yet. Cheltenham is not his track and it has been his sheer class and guts that has seen him do so well there in the past. Denman far from a beaten horse either - the way people are talking you would think he is finished but he is far from it. Would love to see the two of them put daylight between them and the field at the far corner and watch them fight it out from here just like the videos of Arkle and Mill House.

Love the bumper mossbags. Willie Mullins has about seven or eight to fire at it plus another four or five who are machines and he hasn't run them yet. But due to the name, I'll go for Meath AllStar. They thought a lot of him when he won at Cork last August but I heard a rumour he was injured over Xmas. If he ran though, I'd back him. Hard to know which of the ones that have run are the best, I think he has better in the yard still unraced.

Sam confirmed on Denman BTW.

Loyal2TheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 4522 - 10/02/2009 17:20:59    203409

lads for the gold cup as use can see is nearly a two horse race. so im telling use know put a few quid each way on the horse who also has done it before. his trainer is a shrewd cheltenham man and will have this race as a serious target and at odds of 33/1 you cant go wrong.
WAR OF ATTRITION

number11 (Meath) - Posts: 51 - 10/02/2009 18:02:15    203483

Sorry I won't ignore

There is there a non GAA thrad for this sort of stuff, which is`already being over genorous considering there are racing meassae boards designed specifically for racing betting etc.

So please keep it in the nonGAA or keep it of the MB

omaghjoe (Tyrone) - Posts: 1191 - 10/02/2009 18:51:36    203545

If War of Attrition wins the Gold Cup, then I will never post on this forum again, seriously.

Loyal2TheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 4522 - 10/02/2009 19:16:16    203571

5 to follow
Whiteoak
Hurricane fly/cousin vinny
Kauto Star
Breezebreese
Won in the dark(outsider)

If anyone gets anything from the horses mouth let me know on this.

conor15 (None) - Posts: 347 - 10/02/2009 22:03:00    203703

At this stage lads,you'd want to look elsewhere from Kauto and Denman.If you're brave, go for Barbers Shop 16-1 shot,e/w even ,even though he is unexposed,he's worth a shot.Another one is Starluck in the Triumph Hurdle,you should get him at 13/2 in most bookies and is an absolute cert if the ground is anyway soft in my opinion.I won't divulge my trade but you could probably guess!

Maroonie (Westmeath) - Posts: 105 - 11/02/2009 00:14:59    203808

denman is a massive 4/1 get on
and watch out for hurricane fly some horse
aran concerto is a serious one to watch out for at decent odds

gaaguest (Kildare) - Posts: 15 - 11/02/2009 02:26:43    203835