The ball was touched on the ground. Watched the video recently and hand on heart I am 100% sure the ball was touched on the ground. By the way , Charlie should nver have been sent off as it was 6 of one and a half dozen of the other. If he went then Lawn should've walked as well. That point seems to be glossed over a lot.

dubupnorth (Dublin) - Posts: 1897 - 11/01/2009 09:31:31    177607

just on the subject of 96.meath did not stop until canavan was taken out of the game imo.this was the main tactic from the start.funny how the mmanager didn't like the same tactic when the aussies did it to poor graham geraghty.i guess what goes around,comes around!

superdub (Dublin) - Posts: 392 - 11/01/2009 10:13:43    177615

Tyrone - bad winners and bad losers. Lads sometimes what you think are poor decisions go against your team, (for example Tyrone got a ridiculous penalty against Dublin a few years ago in Croke Park) but that is sport. Yous are all starting to look very sad.

PS even the dogs on the street know he touched it on the ground

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 11/01/2009 10:25:46    177617

samin10
County: Armagh

If Tyrone had or won the game by a point and a Tyrone player stayed on for 8 minutes after getting sent off then GAA headquarters would have ordered the game to be replayed. Simple fact is they did not want an Ulster team to win it for the fifth year in a row.
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Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone

You hit the nail on the head . And if it was any other team they would have give the point and then blew the whistle for a replay .
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Lads, ye are really gonna have to get over this paranoia that is troubling ye so much. Its really not healthy to always think that the world is out to get ye. Good God, its getting so tiresome

Are ye just puttin it on or do ye really believe that the GAA does everything in its power tio stop ye winning?

redandgreen (None) - Posts: 691 - 11/01/2009 13:33:29    177662

Tyrone - bad winners and bad losers. Lads sometimes what you think are poor decisions go against your team, (for example Tyrone got a ridiculous penalty against Dublin a few years ago in Croke Park) but that is sport. Yous are all starting to look very sad.

PS even the dogs on the street know he touched it on the ground

Bad loser? Maybe you should take a look at yourself since it seems like every other post you've made since the Dublin defeat this year is about Tyrone. Talk about obsessed.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 11/01/2009 14:11:47    177667

MichaelO - thank you for proving my point

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 11/01/2009 15:48:53    177717

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 1723

177319 PJ How do you call it fair when a player gets sent off and still on 8 minutes later and a good point not giving . ROBBED.

Dell ya could nit pick about dodgy referee decisions after every Gaa game, Dublin won the Game, end of story, get over it

PJ (None) - Posts: 2288 - 11/01/2009 17:49:39    177754

BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT !!

Laughing.Gravy (Dublin) - Posts: 404 - 11/01/2009 18:31:06    177781

MichaelO - thank you for proving my point

How did I prove your point? I think even you would admit you seem a little bit obsessed with Tyrone - all I have to go by are your posts.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 11/01/2009 19:02:08    177802

PJ yes your correct to a certain extent but my point is a player that was sent off but still on 8 minutes later now come on that has never happened before . And the dubs are the only ones in the whole of ireland to say it was not a point when clearly it was . In 2005 the ref sent o neill of saying he got two yellows in which he did not and we lost that game as well . Your man got sent off and stayed on for 8 minutes . But i do see what your saying and it is over now but we where asked a simple quiestion where we robbed and yes we where.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 11/01/2009 19:42:10    177832

It was very hard to be conclusive about the Canavan touch at the end. In Paddy Russells book he (Canavan) says that there was no way he could have punched the ball up if it was lying flat on the ground...he has a point if you think about it, but the TV coverage was not conclusive. Overall, Dublin deserved to win that day as they had a far greater spread of the scorers while Tyrone only had 2 scorers, a midfielder Jody Gormley and 11 (10 from frees) from Peter Canavan.

JC Wales (Tipperary) - Posts: 3040 - 11/01/2009 21:48:19    177914

I think if there's ever a doubt between any team and Dublin... I think we all know which way the descision is going to go. Especially in an All-Ireland Final... there was no chance Dublin were ever going to lose that game from the first whistle. Tyrone were robbed, definitely. Disgraceful altogether what happened. Charlie Redmond should have got the line for sure and Canavan's point should have been allowed, no doubt. But then again Tyrone were playing Dublin... I say no more... there is a conspiracy within the GAA regarding Dublin and how they recieve so much preferential treatment on and off the field I think. If they do manage to get to another All-Ireland Final I can't see them losing I'll put it that way?

ja_mayo (Mayo) - Posts: 75 - 11/01/2009 21:49:12    177916

If they do manage to get to another All-Ireland Final I can't see them losing I'll put it that way?
ja_mayo , 11/01/2009 at 21:49


Is that a statement or a question ja? Here's another statement - If Mayo do manage to get to another All-Ireland Final I can't see them winning I'll put it that way. Some things never change.

Dubinmeath (Dublin) - Posts: 1123 - 11/01/2009 22:09:02    177934

Tyrone were not robbed of that All Ireland. The ref, Paddy Russell made the correct decision, to award a free out after Peter Canavan stopped a ball with his hand as it went past him with little time left.

It was a brave and correct decision. Any other decision on the day would not have been correct! To touch the ball on the ground with the hand is and was a free.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1881 - 12/01/2009 00:10:35    177997

Isn't this revisionism great altogether? Dublin won in 95 and that's it, they were a decent side who were there or thereabouts for about a 5 year period and luck didn't go their way at times so why would anyone begrudge them the win? Tyrone then were very reliant on Canavan and I remember thinking that a team who depends so much on one player doesn't deserve to win. YES the point at the end WAS a point but Dublin had the momentum that day and probably shaded it. For sheer nostalgia alone and all the bad luck he always seemed to endure then Charlie Redmond deserved an All Ireland, great character and GAA figure. The Dubs could do with his free taking now, brilliant striker of a dead ball THOUGH I wouldn't let him take a penalty if my life depended on it. When it came to penalties Charlie couldn't hit the water if he fell out of a boat.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 12/01/2009 00:51:42    178018

Jimbo,

Cant recall Tyrone losing a match in 03?

Tyr08 (Tyrone) - Posts: 435 - 12/01/2009 09:26:55    178064

"A question that I have asked myself on numerous occasions"

My god Loyal, you don't half ask yourself some daunting questions!!!

holymoly (Dublin) - Posts: 757 - 12/01/2009 09:39:09    178069

it seems to me that guys outside of Tyrone have a bigger chip on their shoulders about 1995 than the Tyrone guys themselves. Conspiracy theories from Mayo....................

Its history lads we cant change it, we werent the first team to have a decision like that go against us and we wont be the last - look at Dublin and Tyrone's respective records in the All Ireland series since!!!!!!!!!

bocerty (Tyrone) - Posts: 539 - 12/01/2009 09:55:58    178084

carlowman County: Carlow Posts: 69 177997 Tyrone were not robbed of that All Ireland. The ref, Paddy Russell made the correct decision, to award a free out after Peter Canavan stopped a ball with his hand as it went past him with little time left. It was a brave and correct decision. Any other decision on the day would not have been correct! To touch the ball on the ground with the hand is and was a free. Oh yeah, very brave decision, just like it was brave to let Charlie run around the pitch for a while after been sent to the line.

Tyr08 (Tyrone) - Posts: 435 - 12/01/2009 10:04:14    178091

Tyrone were not good enough in 1995, simple as. Peter Canavan carried us that year. Our midfield was absolutely terrible and we had really one scoring forward on the big day! I think a lot of the Tyrone people on here need to grow up. We have 3 all irelands now. If Tyrone had won in 1995 would we have had that success? No one can say for sure but a lot of great things came out of the 1995 defeat which set us up for 2003, 2005, 2008. 1995 was a stepping stone to future success, why dwell on it now?

Rio Bingo (Tyrone) - Posts: 788 - 12/01/2009 11:16:03    178144