how can any gaa follower be disrespectful to tyrone. look at our history....

we have had the greatest forward in the game: peter canavan
greatest tactician in the game: mickey harte
and we are now the team of the decade

for christ sake, gain some respect!

eochair (Tyrone) - Posts: 213 - 06/01/2009 15:09:07    174013

the greatest forward in the game: Pat Spillane
greatest tactician in the game: Mick O'Dwyer
the team of the decade: Kerry (4 All-Irelands so far)

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4655 - 06/01/2009 15:35:59    174050

eochair
County: Tyrone
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how can any gaa follower be disrespectful to tyrone. look at our history....

we have had the greatest forward in the game: peter canavan
greatest tactician in the game: mickey harte
and we are now the team of the decade
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You'd wonder alright wouldn't ya?!?

Arrogance or what!?!

3inarow08 (Kerry) - Posts: 2455 - 06/01/2009 15:38:11    174055

eochair the greatest forward in the game could be someone like pat spillane or padraig joyce or colm o"rourke there are so many how could you pick one who would not make many peoples top ten outside tyrone but he was a great player. greatest manager i heard of some chancer in kerry i think his name is mick o"dwyer and that upstart in meath called i think sean boylan not to mention the countless other great managers. I think the problem most people have with some tyrone posters is that yous dont give any other counties respect yous seem to think that football started a few years back. AS for team of the decade it has to be kerry the results dont lie

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 06/01/2009 16:32:37    174120

Hipster you wouldn't even have to go back to the days of O' Rourke and Spillane, you could just say Maurice Fitzgerald and leave it at that.

3inarow08 (Kerry) - Posts: 2455 - 06/01/2009 17:04:05    174155

eochair the greatest forward in the game could be someone like pat spillane or padraig joyce or colm o"rourke there are so many how could you pick one who would not make many peoples top ten outside tyrone but he was a great player

I'm not saying Canavan's better than those players, but I'd say he's at least their equal. I don't think people would disagree really, even if they don't like him or Tyrone.

Couldn't be bothered arguing about the team of the decade thing. Someone like me would say Tyrone, someone like Bad Monkey will say Kerry. Plus there's another year of this decade left. And it's a silly debate anyway.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 06/01/2009 17:12:35    174167

3inarow08 Maurice was my favourite player a truly skillful player but as i always say its impossible to say who is the greatest player or manager if you judge it by success then kerry are the best by a mile .And Mick O"Dwyer well what can you not say about him a true great and is still going strong today he was never afraid of a challenge

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 06/01/2009 17:36:28    174206

Hipster you wouldn't even have to go back to the days of O' Rourke and Spillane, you could just say Maurice Fitzgerald and leave it at that.

"leave it at that"

Why? Don't see how Canavan in his heyday was noticeably less impressive than Maurice? You could argue it either way. I don't know if there's an air of revisionism in the light of Canavan being accused of being cynical in his later playing years....maybe.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 06/01/2009 17:36:53    174207

Michael as i said canavan was a great player but of my top ten forwards he would not get in it but Dooher probably would .all i say its impossible to say who is the greatest player with so many greats who played over the years

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 06/01/2009 17:49:40    174221

Michael as i said canavan was a great player but of my top ten forwards he would not get in it but Dooher probably would

Alright, well that seems like quite a subjective approach which is fair enough.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 06/01/2009 17:52:03    174226

Canavan would make top 3 for sure .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 06/01/2009 17:52:06    174227

its just my opinion michael i am not saying he was a poor player all i am saying in my opinion i like dooher more but as i said its impossible to say who was .if i said mullins was the best midfielder ever a lot of kerry fans would say jacko or dara o never mind all the other counties who had great midfielders its all about opinions

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 06/01/2009 18:03:42    174244

Canavan was as good as I have seen, well up their with the best anyway. His ability to win ball, and he had the heart of a lion, made him a great forward.

I remember back in 2003 telling a crowd from Tyrone that Canavan was as good as Andy McCailin. From me you couldn't get any higher praise as I grew up on the exploits of Andy, the most "gifted" player I ever saw. But Canavan was a better player than Andy, his ball winning being the clincher.

To me Peter was there with Sean O'Neill, Paddy Doherty, Sheehy, Matt Connor, and all the other great modern day forwards.

However, if asked to select one and only one, it would have to be Pat Spillane.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 06/01/2009 19:39:34    174317

canavan is the best player to come out of tyrone at the minute(sean cavnagh may surpass him)but his record is only on a par with at least another ten exceptional forwards maurice fitz spillane the gooch john egan james mccartan jnr the great matt o connor you could name many more. i think our friend eochair is still a young un and we shouldnt be too hard on him. any sensible tyrone fan would realise that ok we have a brief recent history of achievement over the past 10-11 years with 4 minors 3 seniors and a few 21 titles, as well as countless ulster titles but before club tyrone and the increased efforts of the schools coaching etc we were shit lets face it. so as the mayo dublin and galway lads will testify when you have a brief bright spell in a century of rubbish dont get too carried away.

bigfinger (Tyrone) - Posts: 203 - 06/01/2009 19:45:33    174321

Dubinmeath sure I know you're only winding however I would like to point out that the 'Tyrone Super Saves' was not a thread started by me, rather some eejit who chose a board name similar to mine unfortunately. Always look for the capital 'G' if you want to know if its the real Goodfella!!!

(p.s Also i'm registered as Goodfella, Tir , they cut offf the Eoghain i'm afraid!!!)

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 07/01/2009 11:08:34    174717

bigfinger
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Posts: 91

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patrique about the only tyrone team the 4 mcgourtys could get on is the tyrone scor team, but then again an antrim man wouldnt know much about that type of culture unless it involved holding a blunt stick in his hand



03/01/2009 14:28:22
RichardCranium
County: Tyrone
Posts: 69

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Have some Woolworth vouchers left over- will be able to use them to get that McGourty if the need arises.


trileacman
County: Tyrone
Posts: 198

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McGourty for starters wouldnt get near the tyrone team.


Anyone like to change their opinion after CJ McGourty scored 2-5 against TYRONE tonight?

I know it was only the McKenna, so I imagine CJ wasn't really trying and only half fit, but not a bad show for someone who wouldn't get near ANY Tyrone team.

And Trileac I know you were talking about Kevin McGourty, but I mean this is his kid brother doing this to Tyrone. Kevin is the finished article.

But sure what would I know.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 14/01/2009 23:28:21    180783

hipster "greatest manager i heard of some chancer in kerry i think his name is mick o"dwyer and that upstart in meath called i think sean boylan " heres the thing hipster o'dwyer managed a great great kerry team and never was he told countlessly to leave his post and that he had lost his touch and then come back that year and answer them with an all ireland has he? and anyways i dont think when harte leaves his tyrone post that he will he go around glory seeking with other counties

eochair (Tyrone) - Posts: 213 - 15/01/2009 01:51:10    180852

Whats the story with the woolworth vouchers??

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 15/01/2009 16:34:36    181430

Funny patrique didnt see Kevin McGourty lining out for Antrim or Queens during the week. Havent seen him play in a while in fact. Was so despondant to see the "finished article" abandon his county in two successive years, we were never given the time to see the blinkered opinion that mcgourty is a great player proved wrong in the heat of championship battle. So CJ McGourty scored 2-5 the other night, Was he on the winning side Patrique? Was it the championship Patrique? Our was it just a McKenna Cup game played against half a tyrone panel who had dragged their ****** back onto a football pitch after holidaying in Orlando? You can ignore all the other questions patrique if you simply answer this next one honestly and with a load of horses*** about camogie, tommy murphy, taking part, honest play and stories about antrim before 1951. Are Antrim just disjointed or is it the cold hard truth that Antrim are the worst football county in Ulster simply because they have the worst football players in Ulster without a clue how to win something meaningful?

trileacman (Tyrone) - Posts: 759 - 15/01/2009 17:14:09    181509

I shall be honest Trileac. Kevin and CJ McGourty, Thomas McCann, Justin Crozier, who destroyed Antrim last night playing out of position for QUB, Paddy Cunningham, and more, have all played well in Sigerson over the last few years. The last time Antrim had that many Sigerson players was in the early 70s when about 5 of them were in the Combined University team that won the Railway Cup.

Throw in a few top class goal keepers, and Sean Kelly, and Antrim have a number of good quality footballers.

Now read the next bit carefully, as I have said the same thing many times before. The big clubs in Antrim, for selfish reasons, claim that the club is the bedrock of the GAA and actively discourage people from representing the county. As soon as the slightest thing happens, they will approach the county players, eg "the county wouldn't postpone our Division 6 reserve game when we had a few people injured, so why should you play for the county" and sooner or later the better players become disillusioned and are lost. It is that simple.

Besides we can't be the best at everything in Ulster, the monopolies commission would be after us.

As for Tyrone just reappearing, it was only the McKenna Cup and all that, that applies equally to CJ McGourty. Normally I would expect him to score twice as much against Tyrone, so obviously he wasn't taking it that seriously.

Was he on the winning team? Thankfully no, they may call themselves St Mary's nowadays but they are still "The Ranch", our dreaded enemies.

Queen's won in style, thrashing Antrim which keeps me happy as the Sigerson approaches.

And Trileac, try not to so obviously lose it next time my old friend, it only encourages me.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 15/01/2009 17:54:08    181585