derbomber i can see by the responses u got that your quiet correct in what u say.especially dell boy he has a masters in gaa.

thehillontour (Dublin) - Posts: 390 - 31/12/2008 21:09:59    171703

EnolaGay
County: Tyrone
Posts: 46

171697
patrique, I've never read more pointless and irrelevant drivel in all my days!


See Bomber, I was right. Hurling titles, club titles, camogie titles, two or three presidents from the county, all irrelevant drivel.

And all before 2003.

By the way Bomber, Kildare have won the same amount of Ulster senior titles as Tyrone, that's none if we talk about the national sport.

Everyone knows that there are legions of GAA fans in Tyrone, as distinct from "Sam" fans.

However we still need to try to educate the others. I may go on and on and on, but it is bearing fruit.

Pomeroy for instance now knows that Antrim have a fine history, he just thinks it isn't worth knowing.

A small step in the right direction.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 31/12/2008 21:24:08    171706

Tyrone wuz good in 08 but I think this is the Dubs year. Great to be here and don't worry about not getting them night hoods - sure yer wan Lizzie cuts the head off ya with a sword I think. Enuff of that here already - say no more - wha'?

TommyHillFigure (Dublin) - Posts: 94 - 31/12/2008 23:39:04    171737

partique i love been educated about the gaa i actually thought i knew it all but reading your posts show how wrong i was i checked all you said and your 100 % right its people like you who make the gaa thank you and thank you for been honest and truthful Hipster

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 31/12/2008 23:52:26    171738

MBE for Mickey Harte!!

Bigboy (Galway) - Posts: 133 - 01/01/2009 12:23:04    171771

Christine Ohuruogu got one so still hope for O'Mahoney!!!

macattack (UK) - Posts: 584 - 01/01/2009 15:28:20    171794

patrique
County: Antrim
Posts: 1498

Everyone knows that there are legions of GAA fans in Tyrone, as distinct from "Sam" fans.

However we still need to try to educate the others. I may go on and on and on, but it is bearing fruit.

Pomeroy for instance now knows that Antrim have a fine history, he just thinks it isn't worth knowing.

A small step in the right direction.


He also seems to be gaining an awareness of GAA activity in other parts of the planet, Found it unbelievable that football leagues might happen in the "lesser" counties.
But But But, having just tried to get into the tyrone GAA psyche via the HS tyrone mesage board, i think your mission may be a lenghty if noble one, keep her lit.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 01/01/2009 15:44:34    171804

How come nobody complains about Kilkenny/Kerry not being proper GAA counties? And the vast majority of counties seem to be focused on EITHER football or hurling.

And one thing is evident from all this. All summer, the reigning champions Kerry got a hard time from football fans etc. Tyrone win, and we start getting a hard time. It's hardly coincidence.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 01/01/2009 16:17:20    171818

Kilkenny have been in the football semi-final and might have won it but for objections.

Kerry have won the hurling, and still have a useful side.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 01/01/2009 16:30:17    171824

Kilkenny have been in the football semi-final and might have won it but for objections.

Kerry have won the hurling, and still have a useful side.

Well I'm talking about the here-and-now re. Kilkenny etc. Duh.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 01/01/2009 17:13:00    171830

Here and now Michael O? Well Kilkenny took their place in the competition for those not deemed good enough to get TWO chances in the all Ireland championship. (The irony of it, you have to be "good" to get two goes).

In that competition they came up against the might of Antrim and lost. Antrim beat Wicklow in the final. Wicklow beat Kildare, who beat Fermanagh, ran Cork close, who beat Kerry.....etc,etc.

So Kilkenny are doing OK, at least they compete in both All Ireland's.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 01/01/2009 17:50:58    171841

And here we go again... Wait for some1 to refer to ulster football and bam, the ulster rainbow coalition will be on the scene...


I have a genuine question, is there any tyrone posters who will point out his/her team's failings? Who will actually admit that 'yes, x needs to be improved'? I have no problem pointing out mayos poor record in finals against kerry, or the fact that that they seem to be too nice...
So lets hear it, tyrone failings are:

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 01/01/2009 18:41:25    171856

Here and now Michael O? Well Kilkenny took their place in the competition for those not deemed good enough to get TWO chances in the all Ireland championship. (The irony of it, you have to be "good" to get two goes).

In that competition they came up against the might of Antrim and lost. Antrim beat Wicklow in the final. Wicklow beat Kildare, who beat Fermanagh, ran Cork close, who beat Kerry.....etc,etc.

So Kilkenny are doing OK, at least they compete in both All Ireland's.

I just fail to see the difference between, say, Tyrone hurling and Kilkenny football. I'm not that fussed about Kilkenny football, it's not my problem, but i don't see why people can pinpoint Tyrone for focusing on one code.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 01/01/2009 20:06:55    171890

I have a genuine question, is there any tyrone posters who will point out his/her team's failings? Who will actually admit that 'yes, x needs to be improved'? I have no problem pointing out mayos poor record in finals against kerry, or the fact that that they seem to be too nice...
So lets hear it, tyrone failings are:

Erm, well to be fair, there's a bit of a difference between how Tyrone and Mayo's year went. I don't get your post though. Nobody's made topics saying "what are Tyrone's failings?" Why would any county who won the all-ireland concentrate on that? I'm sure if Mayo had beaten us in the qualifier, which they could well have done, people would have wondered how Tyrone could improve. Surely it would be a bit arrogant of us to complain about how we need to improve after winning the bloody thing. I suppose we could launch a better defence of our title next year than we've done in the past.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 01/01/2009 21:16:57    171909

Michael O, the unfortunate thing is that some people measure success in the GAA by trophies won. It should not be so, Down hurlers for instance being the biggest success in GAA history possibly, but some do it.

Now Kilkenny have won three (3) Leinster senior football titles. Tyrone have not won an Ulster hurling title, which some Tyrone people assure me is an easy trophy to win.

Kerry have won two Munster hurling titles, one all Ireland senior, two all Ireland junior hurling titles. Tyrone cannot rival that.

However, forget that pettiness. I believe the main reason we cannot equate Tyrone and say Kerry or Kilkenny as "specialists" in one code is simply because Kilkenny and Kerry do specialise in one code. They are dominant to an extent. Kilkenny have at least 70 all Ireland hurling titles, even their own county profile in Hogan Stand leaves out their intermediate wins. (They have at least two)

Kerry have won 70 football all Ireland's.

Now Tyrone have something like 14 all Ireland's, which in my book is magnificent, and highly praiseworthy. A fine contribution, superior to many others. However it is not "specialising" in the manner of Kilkenny and Kerry.

The reality is you would have to compare Tyrone with other Ulster counties, bar Down, Derry, Monaghan, Donegal, and Antrim as they have won senior titles in both codes. So we compare Tyrone to Cavan, Fermanagh and Armagh. Probably ahead of two of them, if we measure success by trophies won.

But they cannot seriously be compared to Kilkenny.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 01/01/2009 21:37:25    171915

WELL MAYO MASTER= I think what your looking for is clarity.

So you ask for a tyrone poster who says it like it is, guess what you just found one.

Right you want tyrone's failings, Ok then .

Apart from trying to convince the rest of ireland that there style of play is for the overall good off Gaelic football, They have no other week spots what so ever and are set to dominate football for a long time to come,

OH MAYO MASTER BELIVE ME I DONT DO WIND UP'S .

clarity (Tyrone) - Posts: 49 - 01/01/2009 23:42:00    171954

The master. I have pointed out tyrones failings before and willing to accept criticism from others about our tactics and history. However i cant accept blanket criticism (Ulster create diving/blanket defence/puke football/cynicism/handpassing/and destruction of the GAA as a whole) from fools who are simply sour about defeats and their countys own poor showing.

Their are informed posters in tyrone like Mugsys barber and Hokey pokey, just like their are informed posters like yourself, 3inarow, jayo and peasre abu. Tyrone posters however are painted in the same light as posters like Pomeroy and olivers. no matter what the topic our views are always beleived to be aligned with theirs. Imagine if your opinion was just assumed to be the same as danjoe/ballboy because you were from the one county.

It is not just some tyrone posters who make pathetic acussations about other teams to veil the weaknesses in their own side. Tamooa7, danjoe, ciarrai abu and patrique are all guilty of pointing the finger at tyrone to mask the fact that their own counties are underachievers/ chokers/ cynical/ useless as the case may apply.

Tyrone and Kerry are the two most cynical teams of the decade. that means they are smart and is the reason why they are the most successful.

trileacman (Tyrone) - Posts: 759 - 02/01/2009 03:51:03    171980

Haha I'm just back into work...open up HS to find this thread...Ah well sure Happy new year but some things will never change...!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 02/01/2009 09:18:15    171985

Michaelo

its wind up time Michael. Dont worry your head about them, its better to concentrate on one code and be good at it, than try to play both and be rubbish at both. Patrique can rant and rave all he likes about Antrim hurling and how many Ulster titles they have. At the end of the day Hurling in Ulster is more or less non existant and always has been. People rubbish the Munster and Connacht football championships saying they are not competitive. Well for years Ulster Hurling only had 3 teams take part in the championship. Antrim were always the best of an extremely bad bunch, thing with Antrim is they were always slow learners, the rest of us realised a long time ago that we were rubbish at hurling and decided to concentrate on football, maybe they stuck at it because thay know its the only ulster title they are going to recieve or else they just have not realised that they are also rubbish. Cant see there being to many Leinster titles coming their way or for that matter even final appearances.

samin10 (Armagh) - Posts: 2434 - 02/01/2009 09:20:19    171986

If we were a county from munster or leinster would we have to listen to this crap? NO!!

Of course tyrone have their weakness's, what county doesnt, I for one dont think that we will retain the title unless we get a forward who will score at least 6 to 8 points a game,

Why are all Tyrone supporters classed the same! Yes we have alot of people who only started going to games in 03, but that succsess can only be good for our games and association as a whole! There are true GAA people who remember the dark times in our county however and realise what they are talking about, The sucsess of the county should be dedicated to such people

Trileac man, you say you can listen to people criticise the history of our county, Explain WHY???
In our county we may not have won 20 all irelands or 35 like kerry, but why should that belittle our history, Our county has had to endure more than most due to the troubles but yet through those dark times the GAA and GAA activities went on and survived. Why put up with this criticism?

dergboi (Tyrone) - Posts: 373 - 02/01/2009 12:47:06    172034