It's interesting that there is trials for the u21 footballers this sunday, the same day that there Roinn 1 U21 county semi-finals on. They have been scouting a few of the teams but there is bound to be a few players that might not of impressed with their club (in a poor team,forced to play out of position) That would be good enough for the Team.

JFK (Wexford) - Posts: 590 - 19/12/2008 16:00:05    168267

As far as i know there was a trial game last sunday in gorey. They are right to be looking at players all the time, the championship starts early and there isnt a lot of preparation time.

yellabelly (Wexford) - Posts: 1062 - 19/12/2008 18:55:04    168421

To get on a Wexford team at any grade, in either code, you need a big reputation. The selectors dont actually go to many matches. Just whoever is on the couple f strong club teams and playing for Peters. Being the best doesnt come into it. Except, I must point out, last year where O'Brien on the u21 and Ryan with the Senior footballers picked the best available. And look where they went.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2581 - 19/12/2008 19:29:04    168441

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168441 To get on a Wexford team at any grade, in either code, you need a big reputation. The selectors dont actually go to many matches. Just whoever is on the couple f strong club teams and playing for Peters. Being the best doesnt come into it. Except, I must point out, last year where O'Brien on the u21 and Ryan with the Senior footballers picked the best available. And look where they went.


Icehonesty, i cant agree with you. Paul carty and his selectors are giving everybody a fair chance. About 50 players have been at trials already and there are still more to come. Lets see what the results are like before you start passing judgment.

yellabelly (Wexford) - Posts: 1062 - 21/12/2008 18:37:35    168979

I meant before this year Yella. Im sure that Carty and others have learned from where others failed in the past. Hopefully they can build on the success of last years u21 footballers.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2581 - 21/12/2008 20:19:58    169042

Trials are only good for the clubs in the lower divisions to compare them against the top divisions. If they don't know already who are the players they should have from the top division then I fear for them. They should be putting together the best of the other divisions against the best of the top division, then they will find out fairly quickly which of the guys from the lower grades can cut it.
The first trial should be used just for the lower grades (I.e. putting two teams together from the lower divisions and picking a team from them).
That's just my professional opinion. :-)

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 21/12/2008 23:36:27    169128

Team should be

A Sweetman
N Kelly
A Jones
C O Shaughnessy
C Kennelly
A Cowman
E Doran
D Farrell
C Lane
S O Neil
J Leacy
A Shore
E Doyle
J Bolger
J Langan Murphy

DaPoultas (Wexford) - Posts: 38 - 22/12/2008 10:55:42    169237

DaPoultas I feel your selection is leaving out quite a few players. You have forgoten they few players who actually performed for this team in minor. Also there a couple of new you talents you have failed to mention. However I do agree with your selection of the likes of CIaran O'Shoughnessy and Andrew Shore. Such players as Cowman and Niall Kelly are simply not up to the grade and this was proven when Cowman could not even make this weak squad at minor and Kelly was found out in all 3 championship matches in minor. Colm Kenelly is a valuable squad member but will never have enough football to play in the half back line. Im afraid Colm can only serve as a corner back for this team with his fitness and dedication to the cause being his best assets. Who is the the D. Fareel you have at midfield?
My team would be as follows:
1. Alan Bradley
2. Conor Carty
3. Robbie Nolan (although I think he will be injured for the season)
4. Colm Kenelly
5. David Breen
6. Shane Rackard
7. Enda Doran
8. Shane Granell
9. Andrew Shore
10. Sean O'Neill
11. Tommy Baron
12. Eoin Doyle
13. Paul Morris
14. Thomas Fitzharris
15. Darcy ( Kilanerin cant remember his first name)

peil_abu (Wexford) - Posts: 4 - 22/12/2008 14:45:00    169387

There were 3 U-21's playing on the kilanerin senior team which won the county final this year (Aiden Jones, Colm Kavanagh and Gavin O'Toole) Damien Whelan was also on the panel. Both he and O'Toole were on the co minor team this year. Conor Carthy also played on the minor Co team and the Castletown senior team. Are any of these lads in with a shout for the Co. U21 team. I feel that D'arcy (the only Kilanerin player mentioned so far) is not near the standard required. He is not even one of the top 3 or 4 forwards in Kilanerins second team.

JDS (Wexford) - Posts: 26 - 22/12/2008 15:26:56    169427

All good players but we cannot have too many young players on the field. The championship will be played on heavy pitches with more than likely bad weather. Speed will not be the key factor in wexford success. I picked darcy as I think he is a class forward maybe I am wrong. Have seen very little of the other players listed. Where do they play and how old are they?

peil_abu (Wexford) - Posts: 4 - 22/12/2008 16:12:59    169486

If you were at any Kilanerin championship game this year these three players(Kavanagh,Jones and O'Toole) were playing.As far as I know Aidan Jones has turned 18,and was corner back for the Kilanerin senior team,Colm Kavanagh has just turned 20,and was full back on the Kilanerin team and O'Toole will be 19 sometime in January and he was corner forward on the senior Kilanerin team

beef (Wexford) - Posts: 16 - 22/12/2008 18:17:59    169594

JDS, I watched Kilanerin intermediates three times this year and i dont know how you can say that Darcy ( i think its Cathal) isnt in their top 3 or 4. He was easily their best player when i watched them. I watched him against Glynn in the under 21 when he kicked 9 or 10 points including some great frees. If youre going to pass judgment on players, at least get your facts straight.
I was told that 35 players turned up for trials at pairc charman on Sunday morning and they are meeting again twice more this week - thats some commitment fore young fellas.

yellabelly (Wexford) - Posts: 1062 - 22/12/2008 21:22:26    169667

A couple of those guys are way off. Doran etc. Definitely not good enough. I reckon the team will get nowhere near a Leinster final this yr. Not enough of a Good Counsel backbone to the team this yr.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2581 - 22/12/2008 22:50:12    169694

The man i speak of is David Farrell from glynn barntown. Big man who has represented leinster in underage rugby. Glynn must have someone on it as they are reigning u21 champions and Farrell would be my pick for captain

DaPoultas (Wexford) - Posts: 38 - 23/12/2008 09:14:08    169782

Da Poultas that shows how out of touch you are. David Farell is over age.

peil_abu (Wexford) - Posts: 4 - 23/12/2008 10:23:18    169833

A lot of the time young players can play well when they are surrounded by strong, experienced players like Kilanerin would have. Just because they play well for the senior team does not mean they are up to the mark. How did they compete in their own age groups? Were they consistently the best footballers on the pitch. The u-21s need players who are going to stand up and be counted for not young lads who need more senior figures in the team to lead them on.
If the Colm Kavanagh is so good why was he not with these lads in minor a few years ago?

peil_abu (Wexford) - Posts: 4 - 23/12/2008 10:28:37    169836

I dont care what age he is. If wexford are to progress at this level this year we have to be prepared to play him. No one ever won anything without taking a chance

DaPoultas (Wexford) - Posts: 38 - 23/12/2008 10:45:24    169846

Yellabelly, my comment in relation to Cathal D'Arcy is merley my opinion. It is no more fact than your assertion that he was the best player on Kilanerin's intermediate team.
At the beginning of this years championship both Gavin O'Toole and Aodhan Kavanagh were playing on the Kilanerin intermediate team. Both of these guys progressed to play senior football later in the year. At best Cathal Darcy was therefore the third best forward on the Kilanerin intermediate team. Additionally, Gavin O'Toole has played intercounty minor championship. I dont believe Cathal Darcy has. Hence O'Toole would get my vote ahead of him. I think most people in Kilanerin would rate Enda O'Leary ahead of Darcy also. Darcy has had minmal exposure to senior football even at challenge game level. Again I believe if a player is to represent their county at U21 level then the should be making their clubs first team. There are at least 9 players in contention for starting forward places on the Kilanerin senior team before Darcy would be considered. I don't mean to be over critical of Cathal as I think he has ability but needs to add a bit extra to his game.

JDS (Wexford) - Posts: 26 - 23/12/2008 16:48:14    170085

Both O'Toole and Jones played minor county for the past two years and were on development squads since u-14 so they must have stood out at their own age groups.Kavanagh,Jones and O'Toole also played vital roles in their premier u-21 football championship and were narrowly beeten by Glynn Barntown in the semi.The three were also on the Gorey district team along with Conor Carthy who is the same age

beef (Wexford) - Posts: 16 - 23/12/2008 17:12:55    170099

peil_abu YOU ARE OUT OF CONTROL wexford have a savage team in u21

i believe that david Farrel (glynn barntown) and christy lane (modellintown) [both of which have been slated by peil-abu] wud be the best mid field partership wit joe sheehan (clonard) /willie deveraux (martins) wit 15 on his back but playing as a third midfielder to win hard ball

if wexy are 2 go places this year we need to work hard in dis department

CAGER95spit (Wexford) - Posts: 28 - 23/12/2008 18:12:12    170137