Well Pinkie KK were All Ireland champions in 92 and 93. Durin da mid nineties they had hurlers like DJ, Carter, John Power, Adrian Ronan and the O Conners who were allin their prime. No wexford man from 96 would get into the current KK team? thats madness... At the very least 7 would Fitzy, Dunne, Guiney, Laffan, Storey, RMac and Larry O

DaPoultas (Wexford) - Posts: 38 - 11/12/2008 14:30:54    162032

Here here Nick. Maybe I am been a bit bias but i still think that wexford team underachieved. 98 against offaly we were very unlucky and they won the all ireland. That said the Cork 2003-2006 team was well up there too along with the Offalys Clares and Limericks of the ninties.

DaPoultas (Wexford) - Posts: 38 - 11/12/2008 14:44:48    162048

Had this discussion in a pub a while back and i friend of mine (from limerick) i may add were said the two teams that contested that final were probably the 2 poorest teams in an all-ireland final in the 90's.

Ye wexford lads are gas men all the same..
I can see why the wexford lads the wexford lads think this ye were wait so long for the all-ireland that team are like gods to ye i'd think the same about the tipp team of team.... but don't let sentiment cloud reality not a hope in hell lads.

cork team 1990 would give them a run i think the galway team of 1990 would have given them an even better run but they didn't win the all-ireland after that clare 95

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 11/12/2008 14:56:50    162062

tipp team of 89 i meant to say

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 11/12/2008 15:01:18    162077

the first line reads
D Fitzhenry -v- PJ Ryan - Fitzhenry hands down
i dont think ryan let in a goal all championship what a ridiculous statement


i didnt read any further

yidfan (Westmeath) - Posts: 69 - 11/12/2008 15:02:42    162079

Tipp team of 91 could have beaten the clare team of 95 and given kilkenny a run for their money. were together since bout 87 and there were great cork, kilkenny and Galway teams around then they managed to win 2 all-irelands in that time frame.

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 11/12/2008 15:04:46    162082

DaPoultas post has to be dismissed as, in my opinion, he is clearly demonstrating bias. However, there might be something lurking in his madness.

First of all let me say, that this current Kilkenny team is fantastic, they are the best in Ireland, at this point in time, by some distance. However, it is a bit disengenuos to say, definitively, that they are better than anyone before them (I include other great Kilkenny teams in that). At the beginning of 1990s, Tipp, Kilkenny and Cork were dominant. Then other counties stepped up to the mark and raised the intensity of their game. I am speaking about Clare in particular and also Wexford, Limerick and Offaly (and later, but to a lesser extent, Waterford). In the mid 1990s, it was not the case that all of a sudden, Tipp, Kilkenny and Cork had no hurlers, it was just a case of not being able to match the intensity of the others.

At the end of the 1990s, until the present Cork, Kilkenny and Tipp stepped up to the mark. While Kilkenny are undoubtedly the team of the decade, they did struggle with the way Cork play against them at times and they had to react to that. As we have seen this year, they have reacted very well and are now a super team. However, hurlers in Tipp, Galway, Limerick, Clare etc are not always just going to look on in admiration and say how great this Kilkenny side is. I would suggest that they are going to try their hardest to knock them off their perch. When Kilkenny get beaten, do the victors then automatically assume the title of greatest side ever?? Probably Not.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 11/12/2008 15:10:13    162090

A team of the finest hurlers of the millenoum wouldnt compete with that KK team. This is the most stupid idea i have heard on this website. Rod Guiney v Tommy Walsh - Rod Guiney got the **** hurled out of him by a 19 year old in that final. They were the luckiest team ever to win an All-Ireland. Agreed - they were the worst 2 teams to compete in an All-Ireland EVER. (still happy we wont it though!).

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 11/12/2008 15:25:58    162110

HAG_AND_CHEESE County: Tipperary Posts: 1090 No sure ye boys still think ye are All-Ireland winning material and have since the last time ye won. And ye call use demented. At least we can admit when we are rubbish, tip think they are going to win it every year and then... nothing!!

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 11/12/2008 15:26:00    162111

Last Cork team to win the All-Ireland I would class as a great team and of course Offaly had a great team. I'd leave it at that for the past 18 or 19 years (excluding the current KK team which is the greatest I can remember). As I said I don't think the 96 team was one of the greats so I never made any great case for that but if you don't rate some of the players I named then I think you probably are talking through your.....
Fitz has probably been the best goal-keeper of the 90's and early part of this decade. As far as I can see in the past couple of decades he has been the best. There is no way Martin Storey and Liam Dunne wouldn't make the current KK team. There definitely is a case for O'Gorman, McCarthy and Fenlon too. You don't have to agree and many probably won't but to say it's some wild kind of claim of a sentimental ejjit I think is way out there.

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 11/12/2008 15:31:54    162121

lads i am just back from the doctor as i had to go to him with badly split sides...da poultas your away with the fairies lad,the wexford team of 96 wouldn't get within 20points of the kilkenny 2008..this current kilkenny team is quite possibly the finest gaa team of all time,hurling or football..no team has got within 10 points of them in the last two years..they would beat any of the great hurling teams from the past.

der_bomber (Kildare) - Posts: 149 - 11/12/2008 15:44:54    162148

The current Kilkenny team would beat them easily.

men_of_49 (Meath) - Posts: 2018 - 11/12/2008 15:54:26    162165

yidfan r wat ever you like to be called the first line reads D Fitzhenry -v- PJ Ryan - Fitzhenry hands down what a ridiculous statement by you,,,,, fitz is unquestionably a better goal man i know your from a flimsy county lik westmeath so u prob dont even lik hurlin so jus leave it out mate as for Pinkie wat you said their is complete tripe.......... you a traiter to your county........ guiney gave everything for his county and dis is how u spit in his face metaphorically obviously also a reason that the 96wexford team was so great is because the belief certain people instilled in them in 95 their wasnt a bad word r gesture to both the players and management dat whole year which made a huge difference even though their was no silverware they also had belief thaks to griffith dis is wat the current team lacks (thanks to myler) i believe dat if current players such as keith rossiter, willie doran, pj and billy nolan, steven nolan and gizzy lyng (both have put the shalkels on tommy 'over rated' walsh) darren stamp, if they had confidence they wud better than any current kk player and even as gud as any wexi 96 player any real opinions lads

CAGER95spit (Wexford) - Posts: 28 - 11/12/2008 16:13:26    162198

if i remember right the yella bellies were lucky to win that All Ireland only a diallowed goal from brian foley won it for ye (def not a square ball). how is the wexford 96 team a great team. 1 all ireland. ye came and went in 2 years.

if there is a team that you should be comparing its the Offally team, full of class players, pilkington troy the whelehans and of course johnney dooley some of the best hurlers to ever grace the hurling field. and i would not begrudge them their success in 94.

giveheralash (Limerick) - Posts: 53 - 11/12/2008 16:15:46    162202

Pinkie
County: Wexford
Posts: 239

Your sure u are from Wexford because I've never actually witnessed a post from you saying anything good about them?

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 11/12/2008 16:33:06    162224

No nick you talking to a realist here tipp have not had a great team since around 91-92. I said that ye were beaten by an alright tipp team in 97 a year after this "kilkenny 4 in a row" beating team won yer all-ireland saying that the tipp team of 97 was still better than the tipp team that won in 2001 lucky to get that in fairness, might be controversial as say that the tipp and galway teams that day would rivial wexford and Limerick in being 2 not great teams in the final.

I've never came out with ridculus statement like that 1 all-ireland and yer the best team ever!!!

tipp have been poor over the last few years but things are startin to look up.... at least i not totally biased!

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 11/12/2008 16:38:40    162230

Wait a sec nick i just had a read back threw your posts YOU AGREE WITH ME!!!! why then are you having a pop at me!

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 11/12/2008 16:41:30    162232

Nonsense, absolute rubbish. You are making an idiot of Wexford people with this claim, we are enough of a laughing stock at hurling as it is, we dont need you making us a bigger one of us.

bored_sod (Wexford) - Posts: 43 - 11/12/2008 16:46:58    162234

DaPoultas
Guiney shouldn't have been on the Wex 96 team never mind getting into the KK team. The man was a tryer but he couldn't hurl a stroke.

Yop (Wexford) - Posts: 362 - 11/12/2008 16:49:51    162238

Ye should stop slagging off DePoultas lads. Hes clearly just madly in love with the team that gave him perhaps the best sporting memory of his life. Why wouldnt he be?? And for the record the Kiltormer team circa 1992 would bate this current crop of Cats out the door.

mossbags (Galway) - Posts: 1089 - 11/12/2008 18:03:42    162349