shows how good doyle must be

joeyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 412 - 18/05/2009 22:26:05    287206

shame about fitzy..did he play the practice match they had on sat yermon. still surprised at hanley being left out of the 24. and with fitzy being a forward a argument could be made for another forward barret or joyce maybe if there still involved. the forwards on the bench seem to be more suited to the full forward line rather than the half forward line where fitzy would have prob played. mc andrew to me is the only option here or else young mcgovern but his size might go against him against a physical wexford team. in the games i've seen he seems to be getting knocked off the ball a bit. day and bolton seem more suited to the full forward line. agree with yermon doyle prob start ahead of brown but expect ta see brown aswell as johnny byrne at some stage on saturday. with fitzy gone might put us under pressure in the midfield if the two lads dont have a good day at the office or pick up a injury.specially that doherty still isnt fit

98KESAM (Kildare) - Posts: 56 - 19/05/2009 03:10:48    287403

Sam I think your spot on with alot you say. I heard Joyce, along with 4 or 5 more have quit the panel.
Fitzy did take part in Sat game, but I believe it was only a 20 min or so session.
The panel was named on Sat, and looks like he wasnt considered as has been out for over 3 weeks, and couldnt be fit enough, which is a fair call, as lads need to be 100%.
I do agree sam that it is a bit strange that a forward wasnt added.
Is Doyle that good? why only Doyle added to the panel? geary from maynooth has been outstanding at centre back, Naas werent in div 1 shake up? never saw him attend a trial or training session with minors. did 4/5 lads walk cause of this? joey have Athy no decebt backs?
Anyway, best of luck lads, we can do it.

yermon (Kildare) - Posts: 93 - 19/05/2009 18:31:15    288163

cant say there is only tony gibbons but he is under 16..he was with them at the start but was playing too much football..ah doyle was concentrating on the hurling id say more so..i wonder did murphy ring these lads and tell them their situation and where they stand before they quit?

joeyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 412 - 19/05/2009 22:07:58    288350

as regards Geary..think he does be away in college and also concentrates on rugby.

joeyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 412 - 19/05/2009 22:26:27    288375

Not sure Joey.
Can someone tell me is there a reason for only togging out 24, or why the 24 had to be picked a week before the game?
I was very surprised to see kevin fitz playing midfield for Monasterevin v Moorefield last night in the SFL Div 1 Match, as I understood he was still injured.
Looking at his performance last night, where he was prob our best player, kicking 4 points, one has to wonder if he can produce it at this level, has to be worth his place on Saturday, and I am all for the white jersey and our best players should start, not what club they are from, or who they are related to?

yermon (Kildare) - Posts: 93 - 20/05/2009 10:36:04    288608

personally i think its bad form for doyle too have chosen to commit to hurling as his number one choice and then to walk back in when the hurling is finished. He isnt the only dual player murphy was interested in by all accounts with johnny byrne and young cullen and one of the clane lads i think were doin both from a earlier stage.
for a player to score 4 points against moorefield arguably the best side in the county at senior and to not even be togging out on sat is a joke.
who were the 4 of 5 who walked? cant say i blame them as i've seen a good few of the challenege games and there doesnt seem to be much variation in the teams.not sure if everyone was given enough chances.the championship 15 seemed to be decided 99% anyway a long time before the wicklow game.. wouldnt be surprised if a few more called it a day too. sad ta see lads having ta do that though.

98KESAM (Kildare) - Posts: 56 - 20/05/2009 12:22:40    288768

It might not be fair to name them Sam. I wonder will these lads bother trying out for U21 in a few Years, they must be well ****** of with the treatment. I think Sams point about Doyle, and the other dual stars is valid, Cullen, Byrne, McGrath were all able to give time to both. I wonder will Doyle return to Hurling when County start back for ALL-iRELAND B Competition? Seems that BM and CO have an open door policy with the panel, and can bring in lads when they want. I think you are right about the Team, and I still think the eye is on next Years Team. The lads on there last Year, who did,nt make the 24, let alone the team, lads like Fitzy, Jimmers, Oisin, Barrett, will be hugely disapointed if we fail to beat wexford. Heres hoping they can do it..

yermon (Kildare) - Posts: 93 - 20/05/2009 12:55:33    288836

One other thing to mention about this debacle, The Minor Management is made up of Murphy (lives in Naas), Hoban (Naas), Stats man (Naas), Kit man(Sallins)
Byrne (Kilberry) I suppose its only natural that they saw Doyles ability playing for Naas.

yermon (Kildare) - Posts: 93 - 20/05/2009 13:01:02    288844

Yeah boys seen Fitzy last night in the middle of the park for Monasterevin. Did very well. Our midfield was gettin cleaned out of it and he did very well when attacking with the ball, quite strong and well able for the div.1 standard. He was carrying a slight knock but I don't see how he could be left out of the panel for saturday?

maroonlily (Kildare) - Posts: 42 - 20/05/2009 13:36:38    288902

i hear kevin feely,fionn dowling an des holton have been drafted in or are being drafted in after the wexford match IF they win..any truth?im not entirely sure.

joeyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 412 - 20/05/2009 14:34:28    288978

not too sure joeboy but by all accounts des holten shud have been there from the start and if i was in his boots i would tell those concerned where ta go as they didnt deem him good enough earlier despite the fact i'd put him up there as the best corner back in the county.
not sure about fionn dowling. from what i heard he was way off the pace at the trials but i think he is a cert for next years squad. Murphy hardly needs more forwards at this stage when he leaves 3 or 4 out of the 24.
about that other chap i hear he is good but has he got other sports he concentrates on more or am i gettin him confused with someone else.
lets hope the lads you mentioned there yermon get another chance to stake a claim for the team after this weekend no doubt they'll want ta prove a few people wrong.

98KESAM (Kildare) - Posts: 56 - 20/05/2009 15:24:18    289050

Yes kevin feely was involved in soccer but is now commited to his gaelic.....his soccer is over which leaves him available for the county minors...

minorstillidie (Kildare) - Posts: 46 - 21/05/2009 10:42:28    289682

eoin doyle in at half back..otherwise unchanged team..i have my doubts about midfield and the full back line/keeper apart from cullen..

joeyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 412 - 21/05/2009 12:23:42    289824

I wasnt too far out joey on eoin doyle. unfortunate on Mark Brown I think, enough said.
Have to agree with you on the full back line, also on centreback and midfield is young.
For me one wing forward and one corner forward have yet to impress in any of the challenges since Wicklow.
I still think/hope we have enough for Wexford. Not sure about Meath/Westmeath, but no point worrying about that one yet.

yermon (Kildare) - Posts: 93 - 21/05/2009 17:12:59    290186

i agree with most of what ya said there lads. i tink corrigan would be better suited in at corner back. if wexford have a quick full forward we could be in trouble. have ta agree with ya yermon particulary on the wing forward. to be honest i dont think he impressed before hand either. he hasnt produced his best when its come to the county team.
not trying to be negative tho as we have wing backs and real quality in 3 out of the 6 forwards postions. even tho the midfield are young they are hard workers and will give it all. best of luck to all involved

98KESAM (Kildare) - Posts: 56 - 21/05/2009 18:26:38    290281

Heard Fitzy is lining out at midfield at noon on Saturday Sam. v Carbury, SFL DIV 1. strange I suppose, and not considered fit enough to face Wexford.
Well I suppose Paul Bealan wont be complaining, as its the Clubs gain.
Lets hope the boys beat the purple and gold, and go from there.
I would worry about the midfield and forwards, and who would come in and make a difference if in trouble.
Bench looks solid re backs, byrne, barron, brown, are all rock solid.

yermon (Kildare) - Posts: 93 - 22/05/2009 01:40:20    290632

Have just come back from minor match and was very impressed by what I saw. Have been reading the posts on this tread for the last few days and was concerned based on what was been said and thought we would be in trouble. I could not see any weak spot on the field except maybe the keeper who was a bit hesitant for the first goal other than that we were solid. Now I have no doubt that there are those who will say that Wexford were no good but that will only be hindsight, Kildare were just a different class. There seems to be a concerted effort by a few posters here to undermine the minor management but so far their judgement cannot be questioned as their selections have delivered. I would sujest that the people concerned advise the players they appear to be championing at the expence of the management to stick with it and work hard and they to will get their chance, because they do seem to have an open door policy and that also seems to apply to the starting team AND IN MY OPINION THAT IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. Do you want players to be gaurnteed their places ??

ballyboy (None) - Posts: 36 - 23/05/2009 17:33:46    291768

Well said Ballyboy.

derfil1 (Kildare) - Posts: 1612 - 23/05/2009 17:55:44    291772

What was final score?

JJ1 (Kildare) - Posts: 547 - 23/05/2009 18:40:52    291793