What about the dancing ladies???

Can someone not spare a thought for them????

BRING_ON_GURTY! (Meath) - Posts: 712 - 21/11/2008 14:19:54    146965

Keano
County: Mayo
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Brolly - you're a twit.
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What do you expect with a username like that!

3inarow08 (Kerry) - Posts: 2455 - 21/11/2008 14:26:57    146976

'Rugby be in Ireland is not a bigoted organisation like the Gaa and Soccer can be, Irish Rugby accomadates both communites and traditions',


Yeah PJ, theres just so many catholic schools wanting to play rugger in the schools cup that they decided to throw them all out!!!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 21/11/2008 14:36:44    146985

Look, I will make this as simple as i possibly can. Ok now what part of this do you lot NOT understand? The Irish rugby team represent 32 counties, it is NOT the REPUBLIC of Ireland Rugby team, its the ISLAND of Ireland Rugby team. ANF is the anthem of the REPUBLIC, not the Island.....It is played at home games because the republic is the host country, but the team is the ISLAND of Ireland. Rory Best is as dedicated as any of the Munster/Leinster lads. He gives as much and it means as much to him as any of them. The lads who come down from Dungannon etc also. Irelands Call is a poor song yes but it is a "necessary evil"
Ye would want to get ye're heads out of the clouds, or go back to singing rebel songs and brit bashing. Cos thats the real reason behind this, even if you wont admit it. So, once more ok, The Irish Rugby team is NOT the Republic, it's the ISLAND. And ANF is not the anthem of the Island, it's the anthem of the republic, get it?

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 21/11/2008 14:42:53    146988

Northpole:"Was at one match and when it came on I just went to the jacks,problem solved....well two problems solved."

Haha...nice one

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 21/11/2008 14:45:52    146991

Patrique,

And I stand to be corrected but did sinn fein not win 73 seats, losing 20 odd seats

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 21/11/2008 14:54:04    146997

Ye see if ye just stuck to supporting the International Rules team there'd be none of this nonsense. It's the only true 32-county team we have. That rugby & soccer shower don't represent my country as far as I'm concerned. I'd rather they dropped Amhrain na bhFhiann before the Rugby matches & got rid of the Irish flag & the Ireland name while they're at it. Wouldn't that keep most of them happy? They could call themselves the Western Isle or some such & I could stop being annoyed every time that song is played as my country's national anthem.
If it's a song to placate the minority community in our country how come it's the one played when they're abroad? Why not the anthem that represents the majority??

Follow the Int Rules! I know it's only 2 games a year but at least they're an Irish team.

PS: Did they play the Irish Nat Anthem before the Munster game? Anyone know? I'm betting they didn't.

domoore (Laois) - Posts: 346 - 21/11/2008 16:19:20    147122

Liamwalkinstown
County: Dublin
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146988 Look, I will make this as simple as i possibly can. Ok now what part of this do you lot NOT understand? The Irish rugby team represent 32 counties, it is NOT the REPUBLIC of Ireland Rugby team, its the ISLAND of Ireland Rugby team. ANF is the anthem of the REPUBLIC, not the Island.....It is played at home games because the republic is the host country, but the team is the ISLAND of Ireland. Rory Best is as dedicated as any of the Munster/Leinster lads. He gives as much and it means as much to him as any of them. The lads who come down from Dungannon etc also. Irelands Call is a poor song yes but it is a "necessary evil"
Ye would want to get ye're heads out of the clouds, or go back to singing rebel songs and brit bashing. Cos thats the real reason behind this, even if you wont admit it. So, once more ok, The Irish Rugby team is NOT the Republic, it's the ISLAND. And ANF is not the anthem of the Island, it's the anthem of the republic, get it?

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Liam, don't normally agree with you but you're 100% spot on with this one!

Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 21/11/2008 18:11:51    147222

realgaa
County: UK
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146918 PJ give me an example of a GAA club that operates a sectarian policy or supports sectarianism ?


Can you tell me where I mentioned the word 'Sectarian'????????????

PJ (None) - Posts: 2288 - 21/11/2008 18:38:36    147248

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County: Tyrone
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146788 Rugby be in Ireland is not a bigoted organisation like the Gaa and Soccer can be, Irish Rugby accomadates both communites and traditions, I think this should be appluaded. I think the gaa and fai should take note.

pj take a look @ what the gaa stands for -promotion of all things irish , tell me again how can you be all things irish yet appease DUP memebers ? the two are incapable of being done look at the carry on with greg campbell FFS invited to open gaa grounds and the next day slags the gaa off as being sectarian!


I never said anything about DUP, but I take your're point. I am a Gaa man, I know it's history and what it's stand's for, I just admire the IRFU, i think it's great to see both sides of the community play together and stand shouder to shoulder on the pitch for our national anthem, I don't want to get involved in the politics of the gaa in ulster as I am just an outsider looking in, I'm sure you being an ulster man would know much more about that than i would.

PJ (None) - Posts: 2288 - 21/11/2008 18:59:58    147257

I'M SO SICK OF THIS!!! Be reasonable, realistic and for God's sake have some COMMON SENSE!! GROW UP!!! NOBODY who isn't from the Republic of Ireland should have to sing our anthem!!! WHY SHOULD THEY!?! Amhrán na BhFiann is NOT the anthem of the island. It's the republics anthem!!!

Again, people belittle the one thing that unites our island....

I'll proudly sing Ireland's Call. As well as Amhrán na BhFiann.

It is an All Ireland team, not the Republics team!!!

Republic = 26 counties
NI = 6 counties. THAT is the politicl situation at the moent. Whether you recognise it or not is TOTALLY irrelevant.

TheRevolution (Mayo) - Posts: 487 - 21/11/2008 19:40:49    147300

LIAM!!!:

Thank God somebody who understands... "It's like talking to a wall with a moustache" though xD

TheRevolution (Mayo) - Posts: 487 - 21/11/2008 19:46:28    147302

Fair play to you lino_de_legend you seem to be the only other person here which loves the idea of a united ireland built around compromise. Anyway i have better things to do on a friday night so il get back to all you other idiots at a later date.

Thats all folks.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 21/11/2008 20:14:43    147321

Htaem is bang on with this one. 32 county team, including players from more than one denomination. ireland's call isn't a great song, but it allows for a balance to be found. everyone on our team deserves to be treated with respect for their efforts in the green of ireland.

evangelist (Longford) - Posts: 245 - 21/11/2008 20:53:46    147349

I told you once before. The song is part of the peace process, highlighting an alleged two "cultures" and all that nonsense. It was a decision made by politicians, not the rugby team or administration.

In the North, the likes of Willie Anderson has been coaching GAA teams, learning from GAA teams, and there are many like him.

One of the Belfast clubs were using the Rugby teams ground and facilities. Antrim have enjoyed the facilities at Ballymena Rugby club, yes Ballymena, spiritual home of the DUP.

So Rugby and the GAA have quite a good relationship in the North. I have no idea what it is like elsewhere, but at Croke Park last Saturday evening, it seemed to be quite close.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 21/11/2008 23:18:48    147393

So because there is a small minority of people on the "Island of Ireland" rugby team and a small minority of supporters of the "Island of Ireland" rugby team that might be offended by a national anthem the majority wants, it should be avoided. For years the nationalist communities in the north have been the minority and have had to grin and bear it. It was only recently a Tyrone supporter was asked to remove Tyrone gaa supporter colours if I am not mistaken. There was uproar on this very site about the incident. Now the shoe is on the other foot with the unionist communities being in the minority and some people on this site want to bow down to them straight away in fear of offending them and rocking the boat. The day God save the Queen was sang in Croke park was a sad day in Irish history and a terrible blight on the memories of the great men who used the gaa to instill a sense of national pride and identity into the irish people. The adversity they faced from a barbaric and unscupulous britsish government whilst trying to do this makes their feat of establishing the gaa all the more significant. Irelands call has no place in Croke Park Amhran nabhFiann is the irish national anthem that should be played in Croke park. There is no place either for the english supporters who come here to promote racism, bigotry and anti irish sentiments.

JohnMitchel (Dublin) - Posts: 178 - 22/11/2008 06:40:35    147447

Its just so the Ulster players have something to sing.

John_3__7 (Meath) - Posts: 546 - 22/11/2008 11:03:18    147470

So to follow this through to liam's logical conclusion, what national anthem should be played when northern counties play in croke.
No harm to you or any other 'enlightened liberal' MY national anthem is ANF!!!!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 22/11/2008 15:08:43    147530

John Mitchel, did you read what you wrote?

You moan about people complaining about the anthem, and then you moan about "God Save the Queen"

You then say the playing of this was a disgrace. Could I suggest that but for an accident of birth, you could have been objecting to the Tyrone flags?

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 22/11/2008 20:30:34    147669

Rugby be in Ireland is not a bigoted organisation like the Gaa and Soccer can be, Irish Rugby accomadates both communites and traditions, I think this should be appluaded. I think the gaa and fai should take note.

Sorry to disagree but I have stated in previous posts there are rugby schools near me who will not allow GAA or soccer. Only rugby and cricket despite numerous requests being made to them. I am sure its the same in other areas. Terenure and Blackrock colleges eg have opened their doors in recent years. Bigotery is alive and well in parts of the IRFU.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 22/11/2008 20:33:05    147672