Go on the 2008 panel all genuine cork hurling people are behind you.

decCork (Cork) - Posts: 109 - 17/02/2009 08:58:41    209087

the cork players are a disgrace to the cork team, to themselves but most of all to the GAA. they need to get over themselves and realise that they arent the bosses. they are lucky to get on a county team when other players would do anything to get on their county's team. the cork players need to be reprimanded for this outrageous behaviour once this idiotic behaviour is over

Mayo1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 167 - 17/02/2009 12:05:58    209299

Once the idiotic behaviour of the county board is over we'll get back to having a team we can support and get behind.
Go on the 08 panel and the other players who refuse to be a part of this farce.

mouldybags (Cork) - Posts: 108 - 17/02/2009 20:45:13    210064

Gerald is next to Ring in Cork thats why the players should have copped on if a man with his experiance cant coach the team then what hope have the rest of us i hope he becomes the next chairman of the county board a strong leader is what we want and gerald is all that

mikesee (Cork) - Posts: 5 - 17/02/2009 21:43:07    210134

mikesee County: Cork Posts: 3 210134 Gerald is next to Ring in Cork thats why the players should have copped on if a man with his experiance cant coach the team then what hope have the rest of us i hope he becomes the next chairman of the county board a strong leader is what we want and gerald is all that HERE HERE

Mayo1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 167 - 17/02/2009 23:24:22    210251

If G McCarthy cared for Cork hurling he would step down. Get him out...if the players dont trust him or agree with his playing methods get him out now for the sake of hurling

tommycatwalsh (Down) - Posts: 29 - 18/02/2009 12:08:40    210592

mikesee,
How could GMc possibly become the next chairman of the county board?

mouldybags (Cork) - Posts: 108 - 18/02/2009 21:03:04    211313

In the gaa we tended to promote people to positions of chairman p.r o etc based on there service and long standing record and there is no doubt that the people involved would have all that but at County level and in an era when we have taken on board big sponsorship and in the glare of a probing and fecklees media we must look at people who can talk to press explain themselves stand over decisions be prepared to put our reason and the way we do things out in the public also be able to deal with a younger generation of people in world thats moving faster Gerald is the first man not to run from the fight
his club should propose him next time the chance comes around also we need a more proactive vice chair man and p r o the days of a p r o putting up a few posters and calling the local media about upcoming games is long past A strong top table would not let any one man rule. In the last ten years in the gaa we seemed to looking for the first ould fool to do a job rather than get someone better equipped to do it convention is the place to push for change and your local agm thats the place to propose new people to run the gaa While there are a lot of agendas at play here in Cork its possible that with a clean sweep and some forward thinking things can change if Gerald was to go it would be hard to get someone to replace him as long as the senior members of the 2008 panel are about and as long as the there is the hint of a gpa involvement nothing will change in the curent climate Cork has many hidden agendas its to Franks credit he manages to get the consensus he does at meetings I think any future person taking such a role will want a much stronger and more vocal group around him and will not be prepared to take the blame like Frank has done but one thing for sure with such large numbers of kids playing hurling Cork will be back to lift the Mc Carthy cup many times again

mikesee (Cork) - Posts: 5 - 18/02/2009 21:43:22    211344

GO ON GERALD!! gerald mccarthy has 5 all irelands & nine munsters & 3 leagues if im not mistaken and should be treated with more respect, this issue should have been resolved ages ago & never have been played out in the media, i feel sorry for any young fella from the 2008 panel who is probably being pressurised into striking!! some of those cork lads gave a good account of themselves in thurles the other nite, was at the match & was impressed with ray ryan in particular!!

premierman21 (Tipperary) - Posts: 429 - 20/02/2009 00:19:48    212686

premierman21

In his last 2 years in charge of Cork

0 Munster titles

0 All Ireland titles or even final appearance

0 League Titles

And the 4 years before Gerald was manager what was our record oh yeah 4 finals in a row winning 2 plus muster titles.

Just because you where a great player dose not make you a good coach.

decCork (Cork) - Posts: 109 - 20/02/2009 10:26:17    212819

Go on Gerald

eden (Offaly) - Posts: 20 - 20/02/2009 10:38:12    212829

DeeCork - why is it the managers fault that the team hasn't won any titles? Should the team not be blamed for this too? The manager can only do so much, its then up to the team to go out and perform and win the matches. I'm inclined to support Gerald McCarthy, the 2008 players are showing themselves up. Fiar play to the young players that are making a go of the league, at least they're happy to play for their county.

assumpta (None) - Posts: 8 - 20/02/2009 13:13:06    213062

Admire Gerald Mc Carthy greatly for the way he has refused to be bullied by just about average players, He has been appointed democratically,and ratified by the club delegates in Cork not once, twice but on at least three occasions.
What ever the out come Gerald has done the G.A.A. a great service and he will be remembered long after those so called hurlers are long forgotten.

shrewdjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 290 - 20/02/2009 13:46:23    213107

shrewjudge

Coming from a guy from Waterford it's just hilarious did you watch the all Ireland hurling final last year??

Just about average 4 finals in a row winging 2 very average.

Waterford trashed out the gate in there first final how long was it around 50 years ???? :)

The club delegates where not mandated to vote by there clubs plus it was not a secret ballet very democratic.

You have to be mandated to vote by your clubs have you read the papers a number of clubs are angry there delegates voted.

As for the players being remembered well I guess its hard to remember players that play for Waterford but I think these players record speaks for itself and will be remembered in Cork for there greatness.

Gerald McCarthy was a great player as I have said before but hes not a great coach in Waterford you might like remembering coaches who lose most games they play but in Cork we have different standards.

Gerald McCarthy is being used by Frank Murphy who is angry that the players had the guts in 2002 to stand up to him and have taken some of his power away its so obvious given his record.

decCork (Cork) - Posts: 109 - 20/02/2009 14:41:53    213222

assumpta

Look its easy to see you have never achieved anything on GAA field the manager is the single most important part of any teams preparation for games .He picks players with his selectors he has to train the team then decide tactics and substitutions on match day.
If the manager like Gerald clearly don't have the ability to do this properly then you have no chance against the good teams who do prepare properly.
These bunch of players for 4 years had no issue with there manager i.e. donal o grady john Allen in that time they got to 4 finals in a row wining 2.

Under Gerald no finals lost most games is this just a coincidence I think not.

decCork (Cork) - Posts: 109 - 20/02/2009 14:48:17    213234

I would support Gerard McCarthy too. He has been thoroughly diginified in spite of the publicity and has had to deal with a difficult family situation as well. Fair play to the man.

dubupnorth (Dublin) - Posts: 1897 - 20/02/2009 15:17:17    213285

"Look its easy to see you have never achieved anything on GAA field the manager is the single most important part of any teams preparation for games .He picks players with his selectors he has to train the team then decide tactics and substitutions on match day.
If the manager like Gerald clearly don't have the ability to do this properly then you have no chance against the good teams who do prepare properly.
These bunch of players for 4 years had no issue with there manager i.e. donal o grady john Allen in that time they got to 4 finals in a row wining 2.

Under Gerald no finals lost most games is this just a coincidence I think not. "

Fair enough the manager is important but he can't be blamed exclusively for a team failing to win any finals. The team have to share some of the responsibility too. There is only ever so much preparation you can do but at the end of the day it is up to the individuls on the playing field to perform and win the game. So they should be held equally accountable for not winning any finals under Gerald McCarthy. Maybe they're just getting old and set in their ways, I know that happens. Maybe they thought they wouldn't be picked for the 2009 panel becuase their talents are in decline due to old age or something like that and the only way they'd get on the 2009 panel was to say that they wouldn't play unless they got to dictate who the manager and selectors would be so they would be able to control them and make sure they got playing. Whatever their reasons they're just coming across as children and its a pain in the neck having to constantly listen to it on the news. 'Such and such has been proposed by so and so but this has been rejected by whichever side' The world does not revolve around Cork, much and all as they would like it to!!

assumpta (None) - Posts: 8 - 20/02/2009 15:18:28    213287

shrewdjudge County: Waterford Posts: 43 213107 Admire Gerald Mc Carthy greatly for the way he has refused to be bullied by just about average players, He has been appointed democratically,and ratified by the club delegates in Cork not once, twice but on at least three occasions. What ever the out come Gerald has done the G.A.A. a great service and he will be remembered long after those so called hurlers are long forgotten. Great post. but a liitle tip, dont waste your time talking to deccork etc. because they wont deal with the topic they'll just look at what county ya come from and criticise you. you're better off going to the national forum and posting there. but this is the best post i have seen throughout this whole forum involving the cork dispute

Mayo1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 167 - 20/02/2009 15:49:58    213334

shrewdjudge County: Waterford Posts: 43 213107 Admire Gerald Mc Carthy greatly for the way he has refused to be bullied by just about average players, He has been appointed democratically,and ratified by the club delegates in Cork not once, twice but on at least three occasions. What ever the out come Gerald has done the G.A.A. a great service and he will be remembered long after those so called hurlers are long forgotten. Meaning what exactly shrewdjudge? Do you mean in the same way that the Russians remember Joeseph Stalin long after Mikhail Gorbachev has been forgotten? I wonder would you like to comment on how Justin McCarthy (a born winner) was put out of the Waterford camp in the middle of last year by guys who would not know an All-Ireland medal if it was stuck in their blaas...

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 20/02/2009 16:22:00    213398

De cork Your going down the player route trying to intiminate people who just do not share your view on democracy. You try and bring red herring into the debate to try and justify Your Cul de Sac views. Frank murphy and all ireland finals have nothing to do with club delegates Voting in a County Hurling manager. The next thing the Cork players will want is to pick the County Board members, then pick them selves on the team and pick much more. No Gerald has done the thousants of real GAA followers through out the land a great service and fair play to him.

shrewdjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 290 - 20/02/2009 16:25:55    213409