Gerald McCarthy.

Limerick4liam (Limerick) - Posts: 37 - 10/11/2008 22:11:36    138090

Dont quit Gerald, your bigger and better than them. You have achieved more as a manager than any of that lot put together, makes me sick that your own club man curran wont support you. And if cusack assuses you of not being a successful manager you should remind him how many counties yoou won as a manager compare to the 3 he LOST

AntiPlayerPower (Cork) - Posts: 9 - 10/11/2008 23:42:26    138164

G MAC

88willcomeagain (Galway) - Posts: 57 - 11/11/2008 16:15:04    138717

Vote this morning on local radio
65% support the players 35% support CCB and ger.

ver (None) - Posts: 228 - 11/11/2008 16:52:23    138763

Well said Ver. Enough said with that vote. You can not go against the majority.

People talk about player power. What the hell is player power?? The players make the sport. They are the most important part of it. Without players you have nothing. I am amazed at the minority of Cork supporters could support the county board. The county board are the custodians of Cork GAA. They are nothing more. It is all about the players?? The county board must not challenge players. End of story.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 11/11/2008 18:14:00    138906

``Benny bunny is naive if he accepts this poll .It is all rather vague and misleading.The players are not bigger than the Association.This will be proven in the fullness of time.``Joe Public``and not any County Board will put the players in their place throughout Ireland during the next decade.What the G.P.A and their minions dont seem to realise is that there are plenty of alternative forms of sport and entertainment in this country,without having to listen to the prattling of Dessie Farrell.Players are not owed anything because they volunteer for the County scene.Most club players are just as committed, if not as gifted.

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 11/11/2008 22:40:52    139146

I agree on a few things Trixy. There are tonnes of other sorts of entertainment in the country. Players, who as I said are the most important part of the GAA, could choose to go to any other event (I think we agree on that??). County boards and club committee (I agree with you that some club players are as committed) are the custodians of the GAA, it is there job to maintain the games after they have finsihed playing the games. They must make sure that they are attractive to present and future GAA players. It is up to them to put in place coachoing structures, games etc. That is their role.

What some county boards, particularly Cork, seem to thing is that they have power. What is power?? They have choices in their roles but they do not have power. They can choose to go against the wishes of players and go head to head with them, they can bully players and show them a complete lack of respect but they have no, nor are they entitled to, control over players or situations.

This issue is about human beings and choices. If the Cork county board, or any other club committee does not want to do fulfill its role as a custodian, it can leave and let someone else do it. If players are bullied and treated with no respect as is the case in Cork, they can either leave or face up to their agressor. There should be no power struggle per se just members of the same association looking for what is best for the association. As players are the most important componenent, they should have the greatest say in who is the manager. County boards and club committees should look at making match schedules, fundraising etc more efficient and leave managemnet issues to those that are directly involved in that.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 12/11/2008 15:15:18    139655

``BENNY BUNNY``you are either naive or a sop to the players.Paul Weller once sang ``the public gets what the public wants``.At the moment the public dont want the Cork hurlers or their ilk.The people will vote with their feet and support the Cork team minus the mob element. The Cork hurlers need to keep their hands free.Why? You need hands to hold a cap.

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 12/11/2008 20:40:26    140011

Trixy.

Who the hell do you think you are?? If I am a sop to the players?? I find that insulting by the way. Yes I know some of them personally and I also know lots of people in lots of clubs right around Cork. I play GAA in Cork, I am involved in my club committee in Cork and I am involved in coaching GAA in Cork. I live an dwork in Cork and I got to a lot of GAA matches in Cork. I find it galling and insloent no-end that I am being told about the situation in Cork by a Mayo person. What the hell do you know about any of this?? You are clearly just a person that has a big opinion of himself, you do not really know anything about the situation, but sure why would that stop you spouting your ill informed bile about any situation that half catches your eye.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 13/11/2008 18:12:42    140770

Go on Gerald

PeterFinnegan (Cork) - Posts: 7 - 14/11/2008 07:30:59    141167

I think its disgracefull the way the Cork hurlling team are treating their manager, he was elected with a say from the players representing the cork hurlers, and now we find that they want to get rid of him where is all this going to end. Sean o hAilpin did nothing to help the situation by stating that the Cork hurlers would not play under their present manager that he has to go. Perhaps its time for O hAilpin and all the other senior hurlers that want a new manager to go themselves, the Cork co board has to make a strong stance this time, its obvious that pride in the jersey does not mean anything to those players, if Christy Ring was around to day he would be disgusted , get rid of all those trouble makers once and for all and pick new players, they might be young but they will learn,

_exile1949 (None) - Posts: 36 - 14/11/2008 11:58:17    141342

You are right Exile, if Christy Ring was around today he would be disgusted, I have no doubt that he would go down the park and rip the head of our county secretary. Ring to ****from anyone. I am sure he would admire the way the current players are following that trait. I would defintely admire their dedication and professional of that team.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 14/11/2008 12:20:31    141390

The latest ``spake``from Séan Óg is priceless.``The young players have no faith in Gerald``Are they unable to speak publicly for themselves? By the way `Benny Bunny``,this latest dispute has loads of connotations for all counties.In time you will realise this.You will also see the Cork players getting down off their high horse.All across this country many people are adamant that the players cant and wont win this time.There is too much at stake for the future of the Association.This issue will further augment the obvious point that the G.P.A. have feet of clay.The G.P.A. will find it difficult to get a sponsor,because public opinion actually dictates marketing strategies.

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 14/11/2008 17:21:54    141761

The players should be ashamed of themselves hope they get kicked out ..

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 14/11/2008 19:56:01    141872

I Support the Manager! Too many Fancy Dans players who have got too big for their boots! Galway is no Better! At least Cork players is doing it out in the open!
But all in all, I think it is a disgrace the way Gerald Mcarthy has been treated!
Cork is not the only county with trouble!

SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts: 1646 - 15/11/2008 13:50:09    142094

I think people need to step back and take a hard look at what has happened over the past two years under G Mc's reign.I am now talking to the people of Cork and not these people who are jumping on the bandwagon from outside the county,they might not have much to do to pass the time so they just come on this board to liven up their dull lifes.For the past two yers the hurling team have gone backwards,you have to agree.I believe that 2 years is plenty of time fo a manager to make his mark on a team,Gerald has not done this.In two years time we will have gone back further and will be overtaken by alot more counties.The present mess will only be sorted out by everyone sitting down and talking to each other.I am very dissapointed in the County chairman not taking this on and sorting it out for once and for all.Nobody doubts that Gerald is a gentleman and a great ambassador for hurling and Cork but that do's not say that he is a good manager or motivator.If you were running a club team and the players had lost respect for you,what would you do,you would walk away or the club chairman would advise you to walk away.

Frances56 (Dublin) - Posts: 378 - 16/11/2008 19:06:55    142428

fair play to the man! lets get these issues sorted down there.by the sounds of things these cork hurlers think they are something special. i dont know what their problem is...any hurlers in are county would give one arm to play for such an established outfit like cork!

cdl (Down) - Posts: 41 - 16/11/2008 19:55:56    142462

Trixy.

Once again you make afool of yourself. Do you enjoy being the class clown or is just you can help yourself??

Did you not read Cathal Naughton and Shane O Neill's comments? They were asked. Then you complain about the whole thing being done in public and yet you ask people to make public statements? which is it to be?? You and your ignorant opinions are laughable.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 16/11/2008 20:10:00    142467

Fair play to you Gearld, you have the full backing from 90%, of the GAA heads I know, and myself included, sounds like this Cork team wont be getting any Christmas presents this year from Santa this year, that's what happens to spoilt kids!

cavancheapskate (Cavan) - Posts: 66 - 17/11/2008 19:04:47    143372

Hey ``Benny Bunny``boy,my comments are far from laughable judging by the support for Geralds stance on this thread.Your only irked because us so called ``outsiders``from around Ireland have joined the debate.A debate incidentally that is relevant to the whole Association. We are well informed ,and any way every time any of these hurlers goes public they really dont cut the mustard.Did you hear Sean Óg and his inarticulate diatribe on the radio.The players keep losing the skirmishes,and they will ultimately lose this war.Of course they are being aided and abetted by the G.P.A.Just take a long hard look at that organisation as objectively as you can. A set up for amateur players with no mandate whatsoever from the main membership of the association.I came into this issue because there is a huge amount at stake for every club in the land.No field game to my knowledge gives the players a vote or a mandate to be involved in the selection of a manager,its absolute nonsense. Thats why ``laughable``people like myself are going against it.You can be as sarcastic and dismissive as you like,but I know exactly where all this will end.

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 17/11/2008 19:46:05    143399