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I cant believe some of the tripe being posted here by so called irishmen. To those geniuses with usernames with republican connotations i'll ask one question, who did bulk of the fighting in our most recent war?? Would that be all the hoods from the dodgy housing estates in north/west belfast!! bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 30/10/2008 13:21:43 129847 Link 0 |
I think its a great idea to have the International Rules held there and I think holding the Ulster final in Casement would be a great boost to the GAA in the city. The GAA need to promote the games in city areas like Belfast, Limerick and Galway bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4643 - 30/10/2008 13:45:37 129884 Link 0 |
I think its a great idea to have the International Rules held there JayoCluxton (Dublin) - Posts: 2688 - 30/10/2008 14:29:27 129990 Link 0 |
Parking around casement is grand if you park in the shopping centre car park which is free. oisinboy (Antrim) - Posts: 335 - 30/10/2008 14:46:03 130031 Link 0 |
Samin, you know all the roads around Clones. I know all the roads in Andersonstown. So you can avoid jams in Clones, and I can in Belfast. patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 30/10/2008 19:49:59 130329 Link 0 |
The International Rules will be a good boost for Casement and if it goes well the Ulster final could be held there the following year. men_of_49 (Meath) - Posts: 2003 - 30/10/2008 20:00:25 130338 Link 0 |
By the way Pom-Pom, if the Ulster senior championship is so Mickey Mouse, how come Tyrone have never won it? patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 30/10/2008 21:10:00 130381 Link 0 |
This thing about the hoodies is getting a bit out of hand. No one I know of has ever had their car broken into, stolen etc. That's being a bit paranoid running out to your car to make sure it's ok after the match. Saffron (Antrim) - Posts: 216 - 30/10/2008 22:48:05 130431 Link 0 |
Clones is the best venue by a country mile for atmosphere and craic before a match. It is not that hard to get out of after a game either if you know where to park. Casement is a good venue too but tailbacks on the M.1 as you approach is very off-putting. Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 30/10/2008 23:53:19 130469 Link 0 |
Couple of points. First, Tom1916 take the anti-Belfast chip off your shoulder, it's a bore now. Secondly the stadium HAS the infrastructure to stage big matches including Ulster finals BUT there seems to be those within the Ulster GAA community that want to bin Casement. Why this is I don't know but there is a perception within the city that there is a BIG anti-Belfast element within Ulster. Thirdly the stewarding can be a bit in your face at times with several unfriendly jobsworths on the gates and in the ground. This can also go on around the country but the Belfast hardman image is a turn off as it seems to be the mantra for some stewards at Casement. I also agree that the GAA community in Belfast and the shops/ bars in and around Csement COULD do a lot to be more friendly to our country cousins. There IS a narky service in some of these places. However the fact is that Belfast is the main city in Ulster and it needs to have a GAA stadium staging big matches. I mean if we used infrastructure as an excuse Clones wouldn't even get a first round match as it takes an age to get in and out. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9788 - 31/10/2008 00:06:44 130474 Link 0 |
I first mentioned Belfast as a non-GAA town for the simple reason i worked in a.town for a number of years and i would say that 1 in 10 people i met had actually been to Casement. I was surprised by the number of clubs in the west of the city and fair play to them,a GAA club surviving in any urban area is a tough prospect. But i still believe GAA in West Belfast would be a poor second to soccer,which is a shame for the people that are trying to encourage the game in the city. sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1071 - 31/10/2008 10:17:32 130592 Link 0 |
i have two friends who live in the area, one on falls road and the other on stockmans lane just a few hundread yards from Casement Park, both have had their cars stole twice. Ones heavily pregnant girlfriend woke to see a man standing at her bedside looking for car keys. I will say it again the majority of people in Andytown and west Belfast are good people, but they have a higher ratio of s***bags than most places in the north. Where is joyriding capital of the north? Truthfull answer is west belfast. Casement is a good ground but the vast majority of ulster people will tell you they prefer Clones, dont understand why this upsets so many belfast and antrim people. someone tells me that they prefer Clones to the new Athletic Grounds in Armagh i wouldnt take offence. Its a better ground and a much more enjoyable and friendly carnival atmosphere. samin10 (Armagh) - Posts: 2434 - 31/10/2008 11:17:53 130667 Link 0 |
Patrique because who in Ulster really cares about hurling apart from Antrim pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 31/10/2008 11:34:53 130696 Link 0 |
Back to my original point and no disrespect to Casement Park. There is no incentive to go early to a match there except to beat the traffic queues. There is nothing like Clones for banter and craic before a big game as all the pubs are close to the ground and the atmosphere is brilliant. Casement Park does'nt have this. I usually arrive in Clones at 11 a.m and mingle with supporters for an hour or two before the minor match. I meet all kinds of good friendly G.A.A. people and know in advance where they will be. I would be on first name terms with many rival supporters from meeting them annually. I would'nt get that in Belfast. Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 31/10/2008 11:54:33 130728 Link 0 |
From personal experiences, I prefer Clones. People mention traffic as the main negative point about Clones, but to be honest I've found Casement worse in this respect. Fair enough I live considerably closer to Clones but anytime I've gone to Casement the traffic and parking has always been a nightmare and the atmosphere has been poor. The atmosphere being poor may be down to the fact that its usually an opening round of the championship but still. I also regularly get my euro refused in the shops around it Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12221 - 31/10/2008 12:24:33 130779 Link 0 |
Atmosphere alone would be enough for Clones to win hands down. Take the kids and her indoors to Clones now,still get a few scoops and her indoors always "volunteers" to drive home. My 2 lads love Clones,the smell of £5 burgers,the hat scarf and flag sellers,the singing and "dancing",the constant stream of people coming down the big hill. The fun of watching the south Armagh boys coming in their souped up cars complete with their straw hats,the north Armagh buses arriving at 8.30am with every single one onboard ******,or about to get ****** with a bottle of the finest house red. Give me Clones anyday!! sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1071 - 31/10/2008 12:42:43 130809 Link 0 |
People keep talking about crime in Belfast being a put of for casement but yet nobody ever argues heading to Dublin to watch a match in Croke - Dublin is a bigger city with a higher crime rate, so please don't use crime as an excuse!!!!!!!!!! Tir_Na_nOg (Antrim) - Posts: 210 - 31/10/2008 12:44:12 130810 Link 0 |
Tir_na_nog samin10 (Armagh) - Posts: 2434 - 31/10/2008 13:01:25 130843 Link 0 |
Tir na nOg -dublin has a higher crime rate than belfast? dont think so bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4643 - 31/10/2008 13:14:58 130865 Link 0 |
Some lads have asked why Clones was picked as a venue for Ulster finals. It has nothing to do with Cavan being succesfull. I know you lads in the stolen six are pretty ignorant about us folks on the southern side of the border but you should know that Clones is a Monaghan town and if your down that way next summer I would advise you not to get the locals mixed up with Cavan people as you might get a sharp and sore reaction. The Hunter (None) - Posts: 22 - 31/10/2008 13:20:06 130875 Link 0 |