Real Kerry Fan, assault is the threat of causing harm, even if intended or not. Battery is the physical act of harming someone.

In legal terms, Galvin assaulted the referee.

3inarow08 (Kerry) - Posts: 2455 - 27/10/2008 18:13:29    127434

God Tyrone must have made these kerry ones real bitter...

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 27/10/2008 19:09:20    127465

Ho wcome no outcry about the James Stephens full forward being kicked while on the ground yesterday !!!!!

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 27/10/2008 19:21:20    127478

Galvin acted like a school boy and was punished as one.

It wasn't a big thing. The man is more sinned against than sinner.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 27/10/2008 20:07:24    127501

2 headbutts way out of line but the rest was handbag stuff. BBC got great mileage out of it, pity they wouldn't show the positive as much like they do with rugger.

Nothing as bad as you would see in Laois or Wicklow or other parts of the country where refs get locked in boots and abused.

I wonder if Tyrone hadn't humiliated Kerry for the third time would you all be so concerned??!!

Much worse happens in rugby and never gets the headlines!!

Real Louth fan (Louth) - Posts: 3157 - 27/10/2008 20:10:25    127504

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"Galvin did not assault a referee. He assaulted a notebook. As some other posters would say: FACT:"

Right I see so was that the thinking down in Kerry and the reasoning why yous were all so keen to get him off?

Galvin got a light sentence with 6months and then the Kerry propaganda machine put into motion and got it reduced for all the good it did yous.


I am reliably informed that Galvin, impressed by the overturning of the Omagh verdicts, employed Fergal Logan (Tyrone) as Frank Murphy (Cork) was not available.

I could be wrong.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 27/10/2008 20:12:27    127505

3inarow your 100% right he did insult the ref just your fellow man cannot get that and the a teacher the dromore manager well it gets worse he should be ashamed ...

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 27/10/2008 20:16:45    127510

erm, Ciarrai Abu yes of course I do agree with you on that point. Neither is acceptable but non-players getting involved is certainly a much worse offence.

"Maybe my vision is impaired form Kerry's defeat and that is only natural."
I agree, and I can feel your pain. In Tyrone we went for a century and more only knowing the taste of defeat at senior level. We have'nt forgotton how that feels. Kerry will come back and if they beat Tyrone next year, won't it be an extra sweet victory for you Kerry lads. I'm hoping of course that we can delay that victory for some more time.

"But all i was saying was that the Physical approach adopted on the field by many top clubs in tyrone, is leading to more and more violent incidents on and off the field in yer club championship!"

Here we disagree. The card count in the game was not high. There were no preceeding games in the senior championship that had any such skirmishes. Dromore was playing their 4th championship game in successive weeks and Clonoe their 3rd and on the evidence of the fare provided both teams were fatigued. Does the card count on average differ from that in club football in Kerry or any other county, certainly not. Look at the card count in the All-ireland finals senior and minor finals this year. You will find that Tyrone are not aggressors in these games. Like other counties there are occasional flare ups but it is not endemic. We are not angels, but there are no angels out there among any high profile team (well maybe Galway).

Thanks 3inarow08 for the clarification. Galvin would certainly only have been a technical assault and would not realistically be pursued further by the courts. But would the threat of such have deterred him from his actions on the day? Would McGinn have thought differently before running out on Sunday which would certainly have led to court action?

John Boss (Tyrone) - Posts: 865 - 27/10/2008 20:22:44    127513

lets wait til tomoro(Tue) and see what happens.... i'm sure the tyrone board wil be calling a meeting tomoro night........ hefty bans will have to be handed out..........
in my own county as mantioned above by a fellow county man i know a manager banned for a year for ref abuse....- and he is still on the sideline!!....
DISGRACE!!...
Act Fast please!!!!
that manager and number 5 should definetely be meeting serious consequences.

westerner (Sligo) - Posts: 192 - 27/10/2008 21:15:59    127529

I woudnt be surprised if the Clonoe substitute brings this one to court-after all it was GBH

kingdomfan (Kerry) - Posts: 393 - 27/10/2008 22:17:21    127565

Well John Boss it's likely that the courts would not have bothered wasting their time charging Galvin with assault, especially when they've bigger fish to fry. There's more serious issues our courts have to deal with, and they have been outstanding for long enough. Charging an amateur footballer with assault would make a mockery out of the whole system. And I doubt Paddy Russell would have bothered doing much about it either, despite him being "traumatised" after the event, as per his book.

The threat of legal action, over the heads of either Galvin or McGlinn, would be a deterrent of course. But it will never happen. The GAA set up their different CCCCs and DRAs and what have you in order to avoid being involved with the courts. If they did get involved with the courts games would have to be put on hold or suspended until after the courts have issues their judgements, which could take a while. The expense of all this was another factor in the GAA setting up their own disciplinary boards.

3inarow08 (Kerry) - Posts: 2455 - 27/10/2008 22:55:30    127586

Watcher - that auld fellah went for Paudie but Paudie didn't go for him. To see a team manager blatantly & intentionally head butting an opposition player is pure puke stuff altogether.

Sure we're no innocents down here in Kerry but I never saw the likes of this before. We have other uses for our heads but that blaguard was a disgrace. I hope he gets a lifetime ban as that's what he deserves.

dingle1 (Clare) - Posts: 805 - 28/10/2008 16:23:27    128128

Here Here Dingle 1-anything less than a life ban wont suffice

kingdomfan (Kerry) - Posts: 393 - 28/10/2008 16:49:19    128160

Yeah, a life ban is appropriate and then Tyrone can appeal that and get it halved and in a half-lifes time he can make his triumphant return in the AI final - his face on the big screen getting the biggest cheer of the day from the Tyrone fans as if he had done something to be proud of.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12372 - 28/10/2008 16:56:07    128166

Kingdomfan and Dingle1, we shouldn't be throwing stones when we're in glass houses!

3inarow08 (Kerry) - Posts: 2455 - 28/10/2008 16:56:17    128168

3 in a row-I am struggling to recall an incident like this in my lifetime. I've never seen a Kerry Manager headbutt a player on the opposing team. Reading through some of the other Ulster posters they deem it par for the course in the puke province.

kingdomfan (Kerry) - Posts: 393 - 28/10/2008 20:22:57    128351

Sorry kingdomfan I should have been more specific. We have enough discipline issues in our own county to have time to talk about other counties.

3inarow08 (Kerry) - Posts: 2455 - 28/10/2008 23:26:40    128459

It's not that long ago since the "Tyrone" brigade were on here yapin about the disgraceful scenes after the Derry county final, yet what happened at the Derry final was powder puff compared to the Tyrone final, this coupled with the "no disiplne problems in Tyrone" statement after 9 red cards in one weekend of football.

Don't get me wrong, i love watching Tyrone club championship matches, and was at both the Derry & Tyrone finals this year, and i find that the intensity that club championship football is played in Tyrone is brilliant, however there is a disipline problem but can you blame the players when it's the referees job to stamp out any disipline problems early....if they're strong enough?

I don't want to see Championship matches being played with a league mentality, i want to see hard, fair, games, and that's what i want from the players i manage on a weekly basis. What i don't want is thuggery, and if we aren't careful the thugs are going to turn the good hard fair game of Gaelic football into a form of soccer where you can handle the ball, and i think most people will agree with that.

Bald Eagle (None) - Posts: 1009 - 29/10/2008 08:58:25    128555

What a joke-72 months after what he did and 500 pounds for each team. Tyrone are really sending out a message. This guy should never be allowed to coach again

kingdomfan (Kerry) - Posts: 393 - 29/10/2008 15:48:07    128977

what do you mean a life ban wise up!!! it it was your club would you expect them to get a life ban??????

gaaabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 32 - 30/10/2008 10:41:28    129614