be a great idea but TCG would be a level above JM. But a great idea all the same as test.

The other issue is around promoting the game in Britain, thats certainly not being done by playing all irish born 15, which is the point. Its also the reason the club has only been back for 3 years and will probably be gone in another 10. Well done on winning the all britain but not looking to promote the game over here then whats the point?

pronane (None) - Posts: 324 - 18/11/2008 16:47:25    144154

Thats absolute rubbish Mitchells is open for everybody who wants to come and play, nobody gets turned away. Do you expect them to start tellin boys to go home or their not gettin on because their Irish wise up. Mitchells are tryin to put younger teams in order but it takes a bit of time. It just looks like some jealous folk in the city just East to us will try and get at Mitchells anyway they can to knock us down. Well we'll see if we're still about in 10 years and I think we will be unless for some strange reason Irish people stop moving to Liverpool to live an work.

For now we won't bw worrying about any of you crying about or poor youth set ups. We'll be celebratin an All Britain Final we better get as many in now as we can I suppose as we'll not be about in 10 years. good luck in the All Ireland lads!

redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 18/11/2008 17:23:01    144192

redhanddefender

grow up, its the short sighted approach why there is only 1 team in Liverpool and no youth setup in 20 years. Its appalling to think a city the size of Liverpool with ine of the biggest Irish populations in the Country only has 1 GAA club.

No one deny's you are the best team in the country outside of London but the success you're having now needs to be built through a youth setup otherwise in a few years things could go pear shaped again in future years. Underage is the key to the development of the game in thsi country.

Once again well done Mitchells on there win.

Take_yer_points (Galway) - Posts: 151 - 18/11/2008 18:44:42    144288

Congrats to John Mitchels they desered to win on sunday. of course I heard of them before it was just a little pre match banter. I hope they go on to win it. John Mitchels would definitly hold there own at senior level in London just look at the the poor score lines in the Senior champioship it tells its own story.. I played at midfield on sun aainst them so i know for sure they would... also played against TTG and Neasden etc this year and only for losing to Fulham Irish ourselves in the leauge we could have been in another final. A lot of people seem to think that The Taras have only played well once this year.. get over yerselves for us to come strait back up and effort put in to turn it around from the tatters it was left in last season not many clubs would have been capeable of. A lot of teams rose there game against us this year they new they had to Taras played some great football all through out the year and no team will want to face us next year ...There is a lot of reasons why we lost on sun but one thing we wont do is feel sorry for ourselves over it. we achived our goals this year simple as that. Good luck again to John mitchels again.

Oilibhear (Kerry) - Posts: 16 - 18/11/2008 20:43:12    144359

I've posted on this before - it's not John Mitchel's fault or problem there is only one club in Liverpool. Before they reformed a few years ago, there was no club in Liverpool and people weren't complaining then. As to an under-age set-up, it's my information that they are trying to start an under-age section, although I am unsure how successful they've been to date. Just as the current Mitchel's lads have set their club up so successfully, it is up to other people in Liverpool to set up another club, and not, as is being inferred, those same lads. Fair play to Mitchel's in all they've done so far, long may they continue. They have raised the bar in the north of England and it is up to all the other clubs to try and match their achievements, not snipe at them to try and bring them down to the old levels. Do we know who they play, and where, in January in the All-Ireland yet - I know it'll be the Leinster champions?

Carnaross (None) - Posts: 189 - 19/11/2008 07:29:38    144576

agree with Oilibhear, have seen Mitchells and am confident thet would be potential semi finalists if playing in London, sadly though they lack the same sort of competitive games that TCG get, would be interesting to see teh two teams play.

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 19/11/2008 12:23:13    144827

This thread is quite strange because it seems to be the other teams in Lancs that are putting Mitchells down, it have been agreed by a number of people from London that they would definately hold there own at senior down here. I would say that TCG would be a step too far but could make the semis.

Is it bitterness from the teams they beat up there this year?

macattack (UK) - Posts: 584 - 19/11/2008 12:42:00    144857

Take_yer_points

Grow up? Your point is absolutely ridiculous. Mitchells are a group of players who get on well who open the team for anyone new who moves to liverpool or anyone who wants to take up the sport.

The point you are trying to argue is that for the sake of gaelic in the northwest (ie for the sake of the manchester teams winning some medals) mitchells should break up a bunch of lads who get on well and play well together just because other people think liverpool should have more than one team. Why would that happen if everyone whos involved with them are happy the way it is. We field 2 teams and the boys who play are the boys who actually knuckle down do the trainin week in week out and not some students who wander in and out occasionally. Thats why its a success.

As for the youth set up I agree with you NOT because Mitchells need it to survive. I agree solely because I want the spread of GAA as far and wide as it can go. I'm not up on the youth set up but as far as I know they fielded there first minor team this year which shows clear progress and that can only grow bigger. If Mitchells stick to the principles of not playin students who are there for a few months and lads that are actually workin and living there then they will survive for the sole reason as you said because of the large irish population in liverpool.

Also if the youth do come through and we keep building then whats to stop mitchells having another team but at the moment we simply only have enough for 2.

Fair play to Oisins this year few crackin games against them good luck to them next year and hope they push on another notch because i think the mitchells wont let up

redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 19/11/2008 13:15:00    144901

Well spotted macattack.
Its the poor clubs in Manchester who used to have the Liverpool based lads playing for them before JM set up and then the lads joined them. Made sense but jealousy is a bitter thing.

Well done to JM.

We have the same here in Yorkshire now that Cuchulains were formed last year and again fair play to them. All we want is more football and competitive football at that.

As regards who they will be playing,
AIB Leinster Club Junior Football Championship S/Finals
Moynalvey (Meath) v Mooncoin (Kilkenny)
Rochfortbridge (Westmeath) v Killeshin (Laois)

And if it is the Intermediate side.
James Stephens (Kilkenny) v St. Ultans (Meath)
Ballyroan Abbey (Laois) v St. Brigids (Offaly)

Yorkie Kid (UK) - Posts: 174 - 19/11/2008 13:46:12    144942

To Yorkie kid...
When you refer to the Manchester teams who had players leave to join Mitchels a few seasons back, are you refering to Oisin who lost 3 or 4 lads to the Liverpool team?

Well if you are I can assure you that the lads here in Didsbury hold absoultely no grudge, and never have done. Most of us have several friends who play for Mitchels and after they beat us in the County final we have wished them all the best.
As I have said on this message board, Im delighted for Mitchels for doing themselves and Lancashire proud yet again.

As for there being only one team in Liverpool, well thats not Mitchels fault. They are doing a great job, and if in the future if someone wants to get another team going good luck to them.

Ill finish by refuting suggestions that Manchester teams would 'rather Mitchels folded so the Manchester teams could get more medals'...
From our point of view Mitchels have set the standards and we are working hard to meet them, the lads from Oisin aim to rise to the challenge and continue our recent revival.

We would also like to, again, wish our friends in Liverpool good luck in the All-Ireland.

Yer Man (None) - Posts: 286 - 19/11/2008 17:39:56    145258

I haven't seen much bitterness on here towards Mitchells, its only natural that people are jealous of success though

I just hope Liverpool as a city can build on the success and this lead may lead to the startup of more clubs in the future and some underage success.

Take_yer_points (Galway) - Posts: 151 - 19/11/2008 18:37:15    145318

Yer Man - Not meaning any club but just the minority who think that way.
Like you, support the success JM have had and it is all their own doing. Its up to the rest of us to rise to their level. Good luck to them and every other club who succeed.

Yorkie Kid (UK) - Posts: 174 - 19/11/2008 22:30:16    145490