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Not related but in Meath LGFA underage games if one team gets hammered they put the result down on the website as 1-0 v 2-0 so as not to embarrass the team that got hammered. How that helps them improve is beyond me.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8764 - 04/09/2026 11:20:33 2692670 Link 0 |
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I obviously don't know what exact results, teams or competition you're talking about in Cavan, but I'd point out that Cavan LGFA has to have competition regulations to state how such things are determined, and these must surely have been sent out to LGFA club secretaries before the championships began, if they're not published online. For instance, the Wexford ones I'm referring to are here: https://wexfordladiesgaelic.ie/2026-info-hub/rules--guidelines Your club secretary should either have the Cavan ones already, or else be very easily able to get them. For what it's worth, seems a strange way to me of doing things, but if they're the competition regulations then they're the same for everybody and would have been set out as such before the start of the competition. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 4052 - 04/09/2026 12:26:32 2692687 Link 0 |
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I can tell you they don't do that here. Quick look through U16 results shows me scorelines like 9-11 to 1-4, 8-15 to 0-4, 11-10 to 2-1, and 10-16 to 1-3. And actually just clicked into U14 as well, and two of the first four scorelines I see are 9-21 to 1-1, and 10-27 to 0-0. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 4052 - 04/09/2026 12:36:40 2692694 Link 0 |
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I understand the motivation for doing that. Our coaches are requested to instruct the team to only go for points if they are ahead by a large score line, empty the bench and take of the scoring forwards. Lob sided games are not good for either team. In the example I've given, apparently the rule was introduced at underage level to minimize the hammerings, but somehow it was brought into adult football years ago. If it was known (and that is the fault of management for not knowing), the team should have brought the fullback line and keeper up to midfield and forsaken defending so that they got the necessary 2 points to progress. ExiledCuCu (Cavan) - Posts: 312 - 04/09/2026 12:47:45 2692696 Link 0 |
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Some teams can look to improve in a game after they were hammered. For me, not putting the scoreline on the fixtures website is just mollycoddling young players. It's up to coaches to get them motivated again.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8764 - 04/09/2026 15:13:57 2692737 Link 0 |
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Well, seems to be the case you've accepted the same rule applies in Cavan, and in fairness to you, you've also accepted it's the management's own fault for not knowing that. Always amazes me how team managers and others frequently don't know the rules of the competitions they're managing in. A different matter altogether, but before our final group games in hurling here in Wexford a couple of weeks ago, when it looked like one of our club teams could end up in a three-way tie, I spent ages having to explain to the manager how that would mean a 'mini league' calculation between the three teams and how exactly it would work. I'm still not sure he actually understood it at the end of the conversation. Thankfully it didn't go to a three-way tie in the end anyway! Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 4052 - 04/09/2026 15:14:10 2692738 Link 1 |
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Not surprising I dont agree - its use in hurling is primarily a demarcaiton line, which, considering the modern players ability to hit the light sliotar so far, would be easily replaced with a 33m arc, drawing from the centre of the goal line - parrallel to the 40m arch. I would go futher and just have all GAA pitches with (a) small rectangle, (b) large rectangle. (c) 35m arc (d) 45m arc (e) 75m arc (f) halfway line (5m long line at 21m mark in front of goal. Football - Underage and ladies = 2 points for shots outside the 35m arc - kickouts beyond the 35m arc. Football - mens - 2 points for shots outside the 45m arc - kickouts beyond the 35m arc Hurling - 35m arc acts as old 21m line + 13m arc Football - 35m arc acts as old 14m line and penalty exclusion zone tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 2052 - 15/09/2026 14:30:10 2693906 Link 0 |
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Let's just say you clearly have different beliefs than most. Especially if you consider that the 20m line doesn't play an important role in hurling. It marks the distance that penalties are taken from and it also marks where a free will be taken from if the foul was inside that line but not in the large paralellogram and so therefore not a penalty. Essentially, it does the same job as the 13m line in football. But let's just say we accept that it could be replaced by just a penalty spot and a 35m arc. You'd need a provision that a free for a foul inside the arc could be taken from any point on the arc itself. Otherwise, if a foul is committed just a metre inside the endline and a metre inside the arc, the free would be from an impossible angle. You'd basically be incentivising backs to foul there, and rewarding them for doing so. And this would apply in football every bit as much as hurling. And another consideration for football, if you're going to remove the 13m line. You foul a forward who's 12 metres in from the endline, but just outside the large paralellogram. Instead of the free-taker only having to step back one metre and tap over a handy point, you want to send him a further 22 metres out the field, for a much more difficult kick altogether? Again, it would be rewarding and incentivising fouling close to goal. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 4052 - 16/09/2026 12:07:20 2693985 Link 0 |