Replying To ohwow: "Not at all, we know our place in the scheme of things, but it isn't being helped by being kept from the top table.
Why not two chances in an all ireland qualifier in comparison to a teacup competition. Only 3 or 4 teams can win the all Ireland at most anyway so what harm is it"
Agreed. If Leitrim can work with Cavan, Down, Westmeath and other counties on bringing a motion to Congress. Needs 60% of the vote to bring back the qualifiers is some form.
Replying To ohwow: "Not at all, we know our place in the scheme of things, but it isn't being helped by being kept from the top table.
Why not two chances in an all ireland qualifier in comparison to a teacup competition. Only 3 or 4 teams can win the all Ireland at most anyway so what harm is it"
Second chances really favour the strongest counties. They might be caught once, but seldom twice or 3 times.
Replying To legendzxix: "Agreed. If Leitrim can work with Cavan, Down, Westmeath and other counties on bringing a motion to Congress. Needs 60% of the vote to bring back the qualifiers is some form."
Indeed and reward teams that win their league divisions with money towards a holiday or some such incentive, the GAA can afford to do it for four different teams. This idea that playing in a three quarter empty Croke Park for a teacup final is a reward in itself is becoming increasingly outdated i think.
Replying To systematic: "More chances for a few more games is probably there but currently no calendar space.
I think possibly it's worth changing the league qualification where only guaranteed places are 6 Div 1 teams, 2 promoted Div 2 teams and 2 relegated Div 1 teams, and everyone else has to do seeded playoffs for their spot.
As an aside I wonder why teacup didn't bother with seeding this year they could have gone with league standing and just had the Team 16 in the top group."
There's plenty of space if they want it, usually August before club championships start in this neck of the woods, that is 12 weekends away. I'm sure a lot of other counties are similar.
QUALIFIER ROUND 1 The weekend of the Ulster and Leinster finals, could be for Qualifier Round 1: 16 or 18 counties playing off to make Qualifier Round 2, 16 or 18 is depending on whether the Tailteann winner has made their final. QUALIFIER ROUND 2 The weekend after then could be for Qualifier Round 2: 14 or 16 counties playing off for 7 or 8 qualifier spots, 14 or 16 is depending on whether the Tailteann winner has made their final. ALL IRELAND ROUND 1 The weekend after then that the Ulster and Leinster finalists currently will enter All Ireland Round 1 has no provincial hurling. All eight round 1 games could be played on that weekend.
2 knockout qualifying rounds is easily integrated to the current timeline. Up to the counties involved to bring the motion to Congress!
14. CAVAN - 7th league qualifier spot. ------- 15. Down - Tailteann Cup participant 16. Wexford - Tailteann Cup participant 17. KILDARE - Tailteann Cup winners and 16th All Ireland spot. 18. Offaly - Tailteann Cup participant 19. WESTMEATH - Leinster finalist and seeded in Round 1 draw. 20. Laois - Tailteann Cup participant...
Tough on Down to miss out on the All Ireland but one of Cavan, Down, Kildare and Westmeath were always likely to miss out. Kildare had their golden ticket from last year's Tailteann. Someone had to miss out. Below 5th place in Division 2 is asking for trouble.