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Are the compromised rules fair to both sides?
1) I think the hurl allows the Irish to solo more easily as this is a lot more difficult for the Scots with their stick (narrow and sloping).
2) Also, the Irish can raise the sliotar from the turf and puck it down field - although the Scots can hit at distance too via a 'golf shot' off the sod.
I'd like to see BOTH teams use the hurl in one half and BOTH use the "caman" in the other.
This way, BOTH teams could struggle with the unfamiliar stick for half the game.
What do you think?
omahant (USA) - Posts: 3355 - 27/10/2025 16:25:22
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Replying To omahant: "Are the compromised rules fair to both sides?
1) I think the hurl allows the Irish to solo more easily as this is a lot more difficult for the Scots with their stick (narrow and sloping).
2) Also, the Irish can raise the sliotar from the turf and puck it down field - although the Scots can hit at distance too via a 'golf shot' off the sod.
I'd like to see BOTH teams use the hurl in one half and BOTH use the "caman" in the other.
This way, BOTH teams could struggle with the unfamiliar stick for half the game.
What do you think?" I think the idea is good and is treated on that level as a sort of heritage thing between the two sports and what used to be effectively part of Gaelic Ireland.
Not a great spectacle, lets be honest. There are too many differences. Might as well have hockey/hurling compromise rules!
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3781 - 28/10/2025 10:44:42
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Shinty is effectively ground hurling (Caid) with a hockey stick.
Having watched it live a few years back, it is brutal stuff.
Don't see any point in it at all, as ground hurling is effectively gone, this hybrid game belongs to another age.
They have tried everything to get people to watch it - might as well change the ball to a goats head and have no frees - might be a better spectical
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1633 - 28/10/2025 15:06:18
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "Shinty is effectively ground hurling (Caid) with a hockey stick.
Having watched it live a few years back, it is brutal stuff.
Don't see any point in it at all, as ground hurling is effectively gone, this hybrid game belongs to another age.
They have tried everything to get people to watch it - might as well change the ball to a goats head and have no frees - might be a better spectical" Watched the highlights of it the other day, god you would want nothing for doing to sit down and watch the whole thing, to actually go watch it you'd need your head examined. Shinty is essentially a primitive form of hurling and not exciting at all to watch.
Very few rows either, thought the Scots were meant to be a contentious bunch. Just an excuse for a weekend away
gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 693 - 28/10/2025 18:52:28
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Its hard to watch alright, far too many differences than similarities, also teams playing with different sticks and rules for each time where would you get it. I know a few guys who played in it and its great to see guys from weaker counties get some recognition. Does anybody know if the Scots pick a full strength squad?
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2557 - 28/10/2025 20:05:07
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Replying To gaelsboy: "Watched the highlights of it the other day, god you would want nothing for doing to sit down and watch the whole thing, to actually go watch it you'd need your head examined. Shinty is essentially a primitive form of hurling and not exciting at all to watch.
Very few rows either, thought the Scots were meant to be a contentious bunch. Just an excuse for a weekend away" Leitrim and Mayo people complaining about Hurling / Shinty.
What next?
SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 370 - 28/10/2025 20:27:47
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Glad to see a few replies to this thread.
Agree with what has been posted here. Have seen a few shinty games on youtube and they are tame. By contrast, show someone a game of hurling for the first time and they are amazed.
The whole idea of compromised rules with the GAA is strange anyway. Not sure it has ever fully taken off in either code. Wasn't Tommy Walsh of Kilkenny hit badly on his shin in one of these compromised rules games a few years back? Doesn't seem like a reward for our best players anyway.
slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6621 - 28/10/2025 21:05:35
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Ever see a photo of hurling from the 19th/early 20th century? That's what shinty is like!
liam500 (Wicklow) - Posts: 216 - 28/10/2025 21:46:58
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Replying To slayer: "Glad to see a few replies to this thread.
Agree with what has been posted here. Have seen a few shinty games on youtube and they are tame. By contrast, show someone a game of hurling for the first time and they are amazed.
The whole idea of compromised rules with the GAA is strange anyway. Not sure it has ever fully taken off in either code. Wasn't Tommy Walsh of Kilkenny hit badly on his shin in one of these compromised rules games a few years back? Doesn't seem like a reward for our best players anyway." The shinty sticks have one of the nastiest edges on them that I've ever seen, it would be like getting hit with a sand wedge, the only time you'll ever see Hurlers wear shin guards!
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2557 - 28/10/2025 22:01:04
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The last two years in Wexford during the fleadh we had Scottish shinty internationals playing Wexford minors in the park. It was very entertaining to be honest but after the game the Scottish lads let us have a go with their sticks and I couldn't get over how heavy they are. They're ash but they're not solid, more like a hdf type set up so easy to break hurls with them.
Only issue was the lads didn't really understand the compromised rules.
Two points for a strike off the ground over the bar, a defender can rush a free taker when they rise the ball, hurlers can't catch or solo or kick the ball so Wexford conceded loads of frees due to pure instinct.
It was lovely to see Gaelic cultures merged though.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4002 - 29/10/2025 10:12:30
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Replying To Doylerwex: "The last two years in Wexford during the fleadh we had Scottish shinty internationals playing Wexford minors in the park. It was very entertaining to be honest but after the game the Scottish lads let us have a go with their sticks and I couldn't get over how heavy they are. They're ash but they're not solid, more like a hdf type set up so easy to break hurls with them.
Only issue was the lads didn't really understand the compromised rules.
Two points for a strike off the ground over the bar, a defender can rush a free taker when they rise the ball, hurlers can't catch or solo or kick the ball so Wexford conceded loads of frees due to pure instinct.
It was lovely to see Gaelic cultures merged though." Its a bit of fun and good to be re connecting with the Gaels of Scotland.
Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 200 - 29/10/2025 10:45:19
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Replying To SixtiesKid: "Leitrim and Mayo people complaining about Hurling / Shinty.
What next?" People in Leitrim and Mayo play hurling too, and enjoy it.
alalalalalum (USA) - Posts: 55 - 29/10/2025 11:06:08
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Replying To Doylerwex: "The last two years in Wexford during the fleadh we had Scottish shinty internationals playing Wexford minors in the park. It was very entertaining to be honest but after the game the Scottish lads let us have a go with their sticks and I couldn't get over how heavy they are. They're ash but they're not solid, more like a hdf type set up so easy to break hurls with them.
Only issue was the lads didn't really understand the compromised rules.
Two points for a strike off the ground over the bar, a defender can rush a free taker when they rise the ball, hurlers can't catch or solo or kick the ball so Wexford conceded loads of frees due to pure instinct.
It was lovely to see Gaelic cultures merged though." Was at that match this year myself and it was an interesting way to spend an evening all right.
The shinty sticks are something to behold all right. A lot longer than a hurl - they'd go up to roughly the bottom of your ribcage rather than somewhere around your hip. And somebody above said something like a sand wedge, which is a good description for their 'bás' all right.
Can strike a ball off the ground a lot further with them than you can a hurl. During the warm-up, the Scottish lads (and remember these were all U18s) were lined up along the 65m line and beyond, taking turns to have shots at goal off the ground, and almost every single one of them had the distance. There'd only be a handful of lads on a hurling team able to do the same with a hurl.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3181 - 29/10/2025 11:57:16
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