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Blackcoatsoffthefield (Galway) - Posts: 25 - 30/11/2025 23:13:42    2646578

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Ballyg have cruised through this championship year,apart from the semi final in Waterford..
They looked like they could pull away at any stage today.could have two hard games left to win an all Ireland..they are like a well oiled machine,anything thrown at them they deal with..they have brought in a few new younger fellas and it hasn't changed them..they are playing more of a running game but play direct when they decide to..
Looking forward to the semi now..think everyone would like to see them go head to head against Ballyhale but I fancy martins to have a real go in Leinster final and won't be surprised if they win it..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2622 - 30/11/2025 23:41:35    2646579

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Replying To oneshot:  "short ball as pat spilliane would say puke hurling ballygunner do what they have to do to win matches fair enough but there brand of hurling is killing hurling they will never wear out or break a hurl hand passing around in circles flicking it to one another besides each other its like football. also the one club winning the county title every year does nothing for the county team as waterford have slipped way back in the pack the last few years ."
Its hardly puke hurling!

Plenty of physicality there today and Waterford boys came out best. Taking ball into contact, backing their own men to win own ball, and taking their scores.

That's the game. Semi final be good. New boys from Wexford or Henry's men? Hard to call.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3853 - 01/12/2025 00:41:02    2646581

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Its hardly puke hurling!

Plenty of physicality there today and Waterford boys came out best. Taking ball into contact, backing their own men to win own ball, and taking their scores.

That's the game. Semi final be good. New boys from Wexford or Henry's men? Hard to call."
Adrian Mullen is a massive loss for Ballyhale, could sway it the way for Martins.

Ballyhale have the experience of big days in Croker, that can't be underestimated.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 1010 - 01/12/2025 10:41:02    2646600

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Would say the Ballyhale-Martin's game is 50/50, would favour the Martin's with Mullen out, the Martin's are a proper team and are the best to come out of Wexford since Oulart

Speaking of Oulart, Ballygunner remind me a lot of them. Same colours, similar enough style of play, great sides but haven't won as much as they should have had

To be fair, Ballygunner are probably a level above Oulart given they've won four Munster titles in five years and have an All-Ireland to their name but thought the similarities between the two clubs were striking

Maybe Ballygunner put things right in the All-Ireland series this time

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 719 - 01/12/2025 13:58:10    2646641

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Replying To Viking66:  "That's going back over 50 years ago. Ballyhale have tiny numbers underage compared to the big City clubs in any county including their own."
Ballyhale are a fabulous team. Built on two generations of Fennelly's. Then along comes the Reid's, Henry, Holdens and some others. The only reason I mentioned they amalgamated those years ago was out of necessity' and desire to improve. There area is not small and not compared to other clubs. Say Ballysaggart and other places in other counties. Cha connected through marriage is from Knockmoylan and many others I worked with from Knocktopher. Ballyhale and Knocktopher are not small villages with a pub and a church. The are probably on the scale of small towns. Lukeswell is the smallest villlage in their catchment area. I would agree not the kind of numbers as cities but if that was the criteria to be successful then no one but Dublin and Cork would ever win anything. Ballygunner are Ballygunner since the day they were formed and lucky to muster up 15 to play at one time. They just grew and people who hate them use all sorts b. s. to take from them. Two great clubs but would not mind see the Wexford lads win and someone else win in Waterford eventually. There is a history of domination. Erin's Own in the 30's won 9 in a row I believe. Then came Mount Sion 9. I have little doubt if Lismore and Ballysaggart did what Shamrocks did would have dominated by now.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3218 - 01/12/2025 16:07:16    2646664

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Its hardly puke hurling!

Plenty of physicality there today and Waterford boys came out best. Taking ball into contact, backing their own men to win own ball, and taking their scores.

That's the game. Semi final be good. New boys from Wexford or Henry's men? Hard to call."
if you watch back to yesterdays game ballygunner passed the ball to each other about 6 times and were still only on there own halfback line . another time paddy leavey got a ball in midfield turn around and and sent it way back to his goalman .yes winning matches is what its about but its very hard to watch.

ballygunner wont care once they win the all ireland .but its killing the skills of hurling as we knew it.

oneshot (Tyrone) - Posts: 32 - 01/12/2025 16:53:57    2646672

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Would say the Ballyhale-Martin's game is 50/50, would favour the Martin's with Mullen out, the Martin's are a proper team and are the best to come out of Wexford since Oulart

Speaking of Oulart, Ballygunner remind me a lot of them. Same colours, similar enough style of play, great sides but haven't won as much as they should have had

To be fair, Ballygunner are probably a level above Oulart given they've won four Munster titles in five years and have an All-Ireland to their name but thought the similarities between the two clubs were striking

Maybe Ballygunner put things right in the All-Ireland series this time"
how many leinster finals did Oulart lose i think they lost 4 in a row . they were a great club team but got it so hard to get over the line in fairness they played some top teams in the finals .

oneshot (Tyrone) - Posts: 32 - 01/12/2025 16:56:59    2646673

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Replying To oneshot:  "how many leinster finals did Oulart lose i think they lost 4 in a row . they were a great club team but got it so hard to get over the line in fairness they played some top teams in the finals ."
Yeah, 2010/'11, 2011/'12, 2012/'13, and 2013/'14

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 719 - 01/12/2025 18:38:58    2646689

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Replying To oneshot:  "how many leinster finals did Oulart lose i think they lost 4 in a row . they were a great club team but got it so hard to get over the line in fairness they played some top teams in the finals ."
They did. And didnt lose any of those 4 in a row losing finals by more than 4 points. I was delighted for them when they won. And it wasn't an easy win, the team they beat in that Leinster Final went on to win the next 2 club AI finals in a row.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17679 - 01/12/2025 18:59:59    2646692

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Replying To Viking66:  "They did. And didnt lose any of those 4 in a row losing finals by more than 4 points. I was delighted for them when they won. And it wasn't an easy win, the team they beat in that Leinster Final went on to win the next 2 club AI finals in a row."
Was huge thing for Cuala to beat Oulart. Dublin club teams had appalling record apart from Crumlin in 1980 up to that. Rarely beat anyone!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3853 - 01/12/2025 22:30:04    2646717

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Was huge thing for Cuala to beat Oulart. Dublin club teams had appalling record apart from Crumlin in 1980 up to that. Rarely beat anyone!"
Since Oulart won Dublin clubs have a great record. 3 AI wins, and making the Leinster Final nearly every year. In the last 10 years that equates to as many AI wins as Limerick, Waterford and Wexford clubs combined over all time. Or as many as Tipp clubs have ever won, or more than Clare clubs have ever won.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17679 - 02/12/2025 07:23:15    2646728

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Replying To oneshot:  "how many leinster finals did Oulart lose i think they lost 4 in a row . they were a great club team but got it so hard to get over the line in fairness they played some top teams in the finals ."
Oulart always seem to struggle against the bigger physical teams in the Leinster finals the likes of Kilcormac, MLR etc.

They were a very fast paced skillful team but they had a lot of small men on the team.

Oulart also had a very strong camogie team aswel.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 1010 - 02/12/2025 10:18:48    2646740

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Replying To Viking66:  "Since Oulart won Dublin clubs have a great record. 3 AI wins, and making the Leinster Final nearly every year. In the last 10 years that equates to as many AI wins as Limerick, Waterford and Wexford clubs combined over all time. Or as many as Tipp clubs have ever won, or more than Clare clubs have ever won."
It's definitely improved! Ironically, Cuala's success probably derailed county team for a few years as there were 5/6/7 regulars with Cuala and that was their priority. You had lads basically not playing for Ger Cunningham for a couple of years and then Cuala manager Mattie Kenny took over in 2018 which was no great addition nor universally popular.

Anyway, ancient history. I was hoping Na Fianna have another run this year but wonder now might it have been better had Lucan won as they rally ought to have done. Not saying they would have beaten Martins - don't think they would - but it would have been interesting to see.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3853 - 02/12/2025 11:27:35    2646755

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Oulart always seem to struggle against the bigger physical teams in the Leinster finals the likes of Kilcormac, MLR etc.

They were a very fast paced skillful team but they had a lot of small men on the team.

Oulart also had a very strong camogie team aswel."
Still have. Only lost the Leinster Final by a point to a very good Dicksboro side a few weeks ago.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17679 - 02/12/2025 15:12:14    2646789

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Oulart always seem to struggle against the bigger physical teams in the Leinster finals the likes of Kilcormac, MLR etc.

They were a very fast paced skillful team but they had a lot of small men on the team.

Oulart also had a very strong camogie team aswel."
Yeah, wonder would they have got on better had they been able to play the Leinster Final in Croke Park, thought that pitch would have suited them down to the ground

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 719 - 02/12/2025 16:11:49    2646800

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Was huge thing for Cuala to beat Oulart. Dublin club teams had appalling record apart from Crumlin in 1980 up to that. Rarely beat anyone!"
Watched all the games and must say impressed by St.Martins. Themselves and K.K. had exciting good players and if in Munster would probable beat any of the teams Ballygunner beat. It is a tough ask for St. Martins to beat a team of Ballyhale's pedigree.Though believe it or not if I was Ballygunner I wound fear them the most. They are a bit similar and hunt like hounds in a team effort.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3218 - 04/12/2025 22:04:37    2647083

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